And by mark-out moment, I am referring to the crowd's reaction - not us, the internet community.
An example would be Chris Jericho's win over Triple H back in 99 or 2000. The crowd just didn't expect it, but you can download that clip on Kazaa and it's like the roof blew off that arena when he got the 1-2-3.
I think the biggest surprise would happen at the Royal Rumble, since they usually have several surprise entrants. Right around the #20 or #25 spot - since that's where they save their biggest surprises, usually - the countdown would end for the next superstar to come out.
Austin's music hits and he walks out. Whether I, you, or anyone on this forum likes the idea, we ALL know that the crowd would not expect it and that they would go ape-shit. Wrestling fans have a short-term memory. Vince knows this, which is why we'll have Jericho and HHH teaming one week, and then trying to bash each other's brains out the next.
When Rock left to make movies the first time, everyone was sick of him. Then he returned at Summerslam and everyone who was bashing him before seemed to suddenly be missing him. That's wrestling for ya.
I'm not saying Austin's return would be enjoyable or anything remotely good. But for one night, it would be shocking enough for fans to enjoy a live crowd going nuts. And we all know how the crowd can make or break a wrestling match.
I also think a Dudley reunion would be nice if they set it up correctly. I think they dropped a ball on that a few weeks ago, instead putting Jeff Hardy with Bubba. We all know that Bubba and D-von's singles pushes have been, um, underwhelming to say the least. I know I would mark out like mad for the 3-D.
Comic Book Guy: "Last night's 'Itchy & Scratchy' was, without a doubt, the worst episode ever. Rest assured that I was on the Internet within minutes, registering my disgust throughout the world."
Spike has injured ribs. Yay for him, he's a tough SOB - at least that's how Vince wants us to see him.
Well, since this whole feud between Jeff Hardy, Buh Buh, and Spike vs 3 Minute Warning and Rico revolves around 3MW beating the holy hell out of Spike a few weeks back...
Survivor Series begins. From the opening, we are witness to Buh Buh and Jeff talking backstage and it's mentioned that neither one has seen Spike today. Buh Buh is agitated and knows something is up. Bischoff is walking by, and Buh Buh stops him. After berating Buh Buh and Jeff for wasting his time, he says, "Oh, I almost forgot... Rico and the boys wanted me to give you this video tape. Something about there being a change in plans for you guys tonight?"
Into a VCR pops the tape, and we see a vicious beatdown in an unknown location. Spike is left for dead by the 3MW and Rico, who have some choice words for Buh Buh and Jeff in closing out the tape.
Bischoff laughs and tells Buh Buh and Jeff to either find a partner by matchtime, or else it's a handicap match. On leaving the scene, Bischoff can be heard chuckling, "Bite me...Who's laughing now?"
A match or two later, Spike arrives backstage all bandaged up. He walks up to Buh Buh and Jeff, who are standing around with Tommy Dreamer. Buh Buh questions Spike and asks why he's here. Spike, continuing his "one tough bastard" act, says he agreed to be their partner tonight and he always keeps his word.
So we have the 6-Man Table Elimination Match. Rico and 3 Minute Warning come to the ring and wait for their opponents.
Jeff Hardy's music hits. Out he comes. Then come the rocket streamers to hit the stage. Buh Buh's music hits. He and Spike walk out... but Eric Bischoff isn't far behind.
"Whoa, slow down just a second. Spike, you haven't been cleared by the doctors to wrestle, so as much as I'd love to watch you get in the ring with the 3 Minute Warning and Rico... by law, I cannot allow you to wrestle."
Buh Buh grabs the mic from Bischoff: "That's just fine with us, Bischoff. Because Spike's not our partner."
Bischoff: "Well then I've got news for you, because Tommy Dreamer has already been booked in another match."
Buh Buh: "We didn't pick Tommy."
Bischoff: "Then I guess you're out of luck."
Buh Buh: "Bischoff, for the past month, you've done everything to screw me, Jeff, and Spike over. But now you've screwed yourself. You remember that trade you made with Stephanie to get rid of Big Show? Well, we ran into the final person-to-be-named-later backstage, and he HAS been cleared to wrestle."
Bischoff: "You can't do this! I'm ERIC BISCHOFF!"
Buh Buh: "AND I'M A DUDLEY BOY!!! D-VON... GET THE HELL OUT HERE!!!"
*Dudley's music hits again*
Dudley reunion takes place and we see a 3D through a table to finish the match.
I think the Dudleys have accomplished all they can as a team, HOWEVER, they have proven they're both useless in singles and where they are right now.
Ross: "The Game, the Cerebral Assassin has been knocked out by a coast-to-coast Van Terminator! VAN DAM IN ON THE TOP OF THE LADDER, BY GOD! Aaaannnnnndd....FIVE STAR FROG SPLASH! COVER HIM! ONE...TWO...THREE! VAN DAM WINS! VAN DAM HAS DONE IT!"
That would be my moment.
"That's how you become great, man: you hang your balls out there." - The dorky Kinko's clerk on Jerry Maguire
I would mark my ass off if Austin ever returns. If anyone but HHH or HBK wins on Sunday. Nothing against HBK, but he's not a full timer and won't be in the future. I always have marked for the Dudleys since watching them in ECW. The 3D still gets hollers from me. When Steiner walks out on Monday, I'll mark. When he starts talking, I'll remember why I stopped watching WCW in the first place.
"Don't feel bad. I've been wrestling wolves since you were on your mother's teet!" -- Groundskeeper Willie
TAKA's return, w/ a whole bunch of japanese LHW's ala what konnan back in WCW w/ the luchadores.
Wrestling has been rhyming with ass. I miss shows and it makes me all shades of ambivalence. WWE is starting to suck again. The crops? Jeezum Spice! Someone stole my crops. What in the ham fat is going on. That's just poo-doo! That's just my 2.4856 Yen.
Even though I hope Austin DIES before he ever comes back (yes, yes, so HHH can have his way with him)... I do think that is the right idea. One thing that the Rumble seems to fail in is its opportunity for surprise. I mean.. What if this years Rumble had Goldberg, Austin, Mick, Bret Hart (unlikely, I know) or other HUGE names just appear out of nowhere? We would all mark out! The problem is that it is no longer about putting on a good show, it is about making people watch it. So instead of making us ALL happy by pulling a surprise like thet... somehow it will be leaked that "Goldberg signed... Sting signed..." and we would all see it coming a mile away. Shame....
Well- my ass still hurts, but lets see what happens this week...
Originally posted by Parts UnknownRoss: "The Game, the Cerebral Assassin has been knocked out by a coast-to-coast Van Terminator! VAN DAM IN ON THE TOP OF THE LADDER, BY GOD! Aaaannnnnndd....FIVE STAR FROG SPLASH! COVER HIM! ONE...TWO...THREE! VAN DAM WINS! VAN DAM HAS DONE IT!"
That would be my moment.
"My brother saw the Undertaker walking through an airport." - Rex
Originally posted by Pool-BoyEven though I hope Austin DIES before he ever comes back (yes, yes, so HHH can have his way with him)... I do think that is the right idea. One thing that the Rumble seems to fail in is its opportunity for surprise. I mean.. What if this years Rumble had Goldberg, Austin, Mick, Bret Hart (unlikely, I know) or other HUGE names just appear out of nowhere? We would all mark out! The problem is that it is no longer about putting on a good show, it is about making people watch it. So instead of making us ALL happy by pulling a surprise like thet... somehow it will be leaked that "Goldberg signed... Sting signed..." and we would all see it coming a mile away. Shame....
They were able to keep Uncle Eric a secret, so they do have the ability to keep a secret. Unfortunately, that ability is not used that often.
I want you to know, I agree with everything I've just said.
Since I agree with Austin's return, I think an additional HUGE matk-out moment would be a showdown with Austin and Hogan. This might get some of you to boo and hiss, but could you imagine Hogan giving Austin a Stone Cold Stunner to end his career? That'd be pretty crazy.
David Crockett sez it best, folks: "Look at 'im, Tony! Look at 'im!"
Well, I expect Austin at the Royal Rumble. Let me rephrase that. I would love to have Austin at the Rumble. Remember last year on the day after he said he was officially entering the 2003 Royal Rumble? That was one of the funniest things at the time...but how cool would it be if it were really true? Then they could write this whole thing off as part of Austin's master plan of some sort. Just a thought.
I would think the next major moment in WWE history is when Shane O' Mac returns. He always brings something good to the table and I think that he's coming back sooner rather than later. I don't know. Just call it a hunch.
“And now Lesnar's going for the F-5, NO! Benoit rolls out of it! Lesnar with an attempt at an Irish Whip, but Benoit counters! Crippler Crossface! He's got the Crippler Crossface locked in, Tazz, and Lesnar is in excruiating pain!”
“Every instinct Lesnar has, Michael, is telling him to tap out. The damage this move can do to the head, neck and arm of Lesnar is almost unbearable. But he's got to try and ignore his instincts and better common sense and get to those ropes!”
“Lesnar's right in the middle of the ring, and Benoit's pulling back on the hold! The referee's checking on Brock Lesnar-- it looks like he's out! The bell rings, and we have a new WWE Champion!”
“Chris Benoit has done the unimaginable! He just defeated Brock Lesnar with the Crippler Crossface, and he is the new WWE Champion!”
--And this time, I'd make sure Mick Foley is doing a book tour somewhere in Western Europe. Heh.
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