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#21 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.73
    Originally posted by It's False
    If you had asked me to guess the one guy on SD on banned substances, I'd have bet on Ezekiel Jackson 100 times out of 100. Sin Cara surprises me.


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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.53
Bet they got him for overdoing pain medication. Anyhow, Sin Cara has been a monster flop to say the least.
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#23 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.63
    Originally posted by shawnpatrick
    Bet they got him for overdoing pain medication.


It's steroids, as mentioned earlier in the thread.


    Anyhow, Sin Cara has been a monster flop to say the least.


He's sold a metric ton of merchandise. That is actually important to WWE.



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#24 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.64
Also unfortunate that the suspension spans the 2 weeks in California in August, including SummerSlam in LA. Given the muy bueno response to him in Tucson, I'd expect Cali would have been huge. Oopsie.
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#25 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.23

    Originally posted by thecubsfan



      Anyhow, Sin Cara has been a monster flop to say the least.


    He's sold a metric ton of merchandise. That is actually important to WWE.


Plus, he's been a flop by whose standards? The IWC's? Kids are a very important part of WWE's core audience, and he has popularity in that demographic. Heck, I saw a kid come into my video store the other day wearing a WWE T-shirt with several wrestlers' pictures on it, and when I asked him who his favorite wrestler was, he said "Sin Cara". (Not that that's exactly a scientific survey).



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#26 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.51
    Originally posted by Trunzo



        Originally posted by WON
        He is believed to have failed a steroid test in early June.

        Sources close to WWE confimed a PW Insider story that the test failure was some time back. He may not be brought back.





    Looks like we may have SIN the last of SIN CARA
For those who CARA 'bout him, that is. Sorry...I couldn't resist!

I still think that the mask is cool, but the special effects during the matches have to go. The lighting makes it hard to see. Has anyone caught a live show he's performed at? How does the blue light translate live?



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#27 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.69
Sucks if this is the end for the guy. Done in by inflated expectations and a bitchy internet. Seriously, the guy was GOOD. He botched a coupla spots - as did his opponents - but his matches actually stood out on SmackDown. Thanks, everyone who never gave him a chance!
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#28 Posted on
    Originally posted by ekedolphin
      Originally posted by thecubsfan



        Anyhow, Sin Cara has been a monster flop to say the least.


      He's sold a metric ton of merchandise. That is actually important to WWE.


    Plus, he's been a flop by whose standards? The IWC's? Kids are a very important part of WWE's core audience, and he has popularity in that demographic. Heck, I saw a kid come into my video store the other day wearing a WWE T-shirt with several wrestlers' pictures on it, and when I asked him who his favorite wrestler was, he said "Sin Cara". (Not that that's exactly a scientific survey).


Well, here is another. My two kids (8 and 7) - their favorite wresters are John Cena, Randy Orton and Sin Cara. I bite my tongue on #1 and #2.



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#29 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.28
    Originally posted by Amos Cochran
    Sucks if this is the end for the guy. Done in by inflated expectations and a bitchy internet. Seriously, the guy was GOOD. He botched a coupla spots - as did his opponents - but his matches actually stood out on SmackDown. Thanks, everyone who never gave him a chance!
Do you really think internet reaction - which has probably only been mixed, at worst - has/will play any part in his future with the company? I'm not sure that they've even actively sought out internet opinion on Sin Cara, and if they have, I really doubt that HHH of all people will suddenly yield to internet opinion when it comes to one of their big new signings. If he doesn't come back, it's going to come down to what some person or peresons internally have felt about the guy since before he got on the air and how the events leading up to the suspension let them spin his situation.

I continue to think the only real problem with Sin Cara is that they start with a presentation of "Look how mysterious this guy is!" - something they've never done with Misterio, even though that's technically his gimmick - when they should be starting with the approach of "Whoa, look at how this guy moves, and by the way, here's his mask you can buy!"
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#30 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.94
All I know is when Alberto Del Rio ripped his mask off atop the ladder at Money in the Bank, it should have been revealed that Sin Cara was Rey Mysterio all along! Shocking twist!



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#31 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.15
    Originally posted by Amos Cochran
    Done in by inflated expectations and a bitchy internet. ... Thanks, everyone who never gave him a chance!


Thanks, guy who failed a drug test and then "told them that he could provide a doctor's note for whatever it was that he failed for, and after being given a good deal of time to produce it he was either unable to, or they were not happy with what it was that he produced."

Still, seems no point to not bringing him back. He's already over and he already sells a lot of merchandise.

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#32 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.28
    Originally posted by John Orquiola
    All I know is when Alberto Del Rio ripped his mask off atop the ladder at Money in the Bank, it should have been revealed that Sin Cara was Rey Mysterio all along! Shocking twist!
The payoff spot in the next ladder match featuring Del Rio and Misterio should be the two of them perched atop a ladder, Del Rio reaching up for whatever is suspended above them, and Misterio pulling out a Dos Caras mask and shoving it on Alberto's head, causing Alberto to cover his masked face in a panic and lose the match.
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#33 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.34
    Originally posted by Wpob
      Originally posted by ekedolphin
        Originally posted by thecubsfan



          Anyhow, Sin Cara has been a monster flop to say the least.


        He's sold a metric ton of merchandise. That is actually important to WWE.


      Plus, he's been a flop by whose standards? The IWC's? Kids are a very important part of WWE's core audience, and he has popularity in that demographic. Heck, I saw a kid come into my video store the other day wearing a WWE T-shirt with several wrestlers' pictures on it, and when I asked him who his favorite wrestler was, he said "Sin Cara". (Not that that's exactly a scientific survey).


    Well, here is another. My two kids (8 and 7) - their favorite wresters are John Cena, Randy Orton and Sin Cara. I bite my tongue on #1 and #2.

At the MITB show the children in my section all seemed absolutely crazy for Sin Cara. From his first appearance to his unfortunate passing at the hands of Sheamus, they were screaming for him pretty much the whole time, except when they were hating on Cody Rhodes.



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#34 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.94
The Torch has a write up on an interview Sin Cara gave to a Mexican newspaper regarding his suspension (pwtorch.com) to reassure his fans in Mexico he's not a drug user. Seems like a reasonable explanation.

But even better is the Yahoo Babelfish translation (babelfish.yahoo.com) of the article in the Mexican newspaper. Nuance is humorously lost in the direct translation.



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#35 Posted on
    Originally posted by John Orquiola
    But even better is the Yahoo Babelfish translation (babelfish.yahoo.com) of the article in the Mexican newspaper. Nuance is humorously lost in the direct translation.


Wow, it reminds me of the two foreign guys in Family Guy who've learnt just enough English so nothing they say makes sense.



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#36 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.00
Here are some more thoughts from a demented mind in Central Florida:
    Originally posted by John Orquiola

    But even better is the Yahoo Babelfish translation (babelfish.yahoo.com) of the article in the Mexican newspaper. Nuance is humorously lost in the direct translation.


That settles it. The next live WWE Event I attend at which he's performing, I will start a "Without Face" chant during his match.



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#37 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.39
    Originally posted by lordsofpain.net w/ partial credit apparently going to PWI
    The Record in Mexico has pulled their interview with Sin Cara from yesterday where he talked about his WWE Wellness Policy suspension. Word is that WWE was very upset about Cara discussing the issue publicly, specifically his claim that it was all just a misunderstanding and he didn't know why he was being suspended.


If true, this guy is almost insistent on making his life harder.



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#38 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.63
Nope, it's right here. Record may move it around on their site, but I would be very surprised if it got pulled. There's a messy backstory between that reporter and Sin Cara - that's why the MP3 is there, to prove no quotes are being invented - and WWE threatening to totally cut them off might not be enough to drop it.

What they did drop is a shorter version of the article, which included a Sin Cara quote said he wasn't on "asteroids", along with a gentle mocking of him not knowing the right word. That part looks to be scrubbed out of the longer version too.

I'm sure WWE was really unhappy about Sin Cara talking about it in the first place.

An injection to a knee (or a join) is usually Cortisone, which is a kind of steroid. It is not the kind of steroid that would give you a positive test. He's making stuff up, no different than most people who get caught.



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