I just wanted to start this thread so we can start some discussion about the new direction for the Smackdown! roster which can be guessed pretty well after the outcome of the Survivor Series.
It looks like the long-awaited super-feud between Chris Benoit and Brock Lesnar is now inevitable. Now with Angle gone, and since Bob Holly is well...Bob Holly, its time to put Benoit and Lesnar up against each other. This is a fresh match and a fresh feud so it will have some longevity early on and could probably last the WWE quite some time if booked properly. Whatever happens between these two, there should be some kind of blowoff or Benoit/Lesnar match for the title at Royal Rumble 2004, hell have it at No Way Out and Wrestlemania as well. Screw Goldberg vs. Lesnar, Benoit vs. Lesnar is the match everyone wants to see and is going to be a bazillion times better.
Now with Lesnar feuding with Benoit, it looks like Cena will feud with The Big Show over the US title. After Cena's performance at the PPV, it looks like this is the next logical step for him.
Now I think Chavo is going to feud with Eddy. After that gets out of their system I suppose Chavo will go and try to add some more dimension to SD!'s cruiserweight division and Eddy could probably move back into competing for the US title and maybe even the World title?
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I think now is the time to get SmackDown back to it's past glory...there is a lot of good coming out of the PPV
*Benoit vs Brock should rock on many levels. Benoit isn't a Jericho or Rock on the mic, but anybody who has seen Benoit taunt Angle knows that Benoit will be able to use the "you tapped out" tagline perfectly.
*Cena vs Big Show will once again show just how good Big Show is at getting other guys over. Yes he is slow, but Show will make you believe that Cena has no shot in hell, and make any power moves Cena does look amazing.
*Eddie vs Chavo has been done before...but this time I think it'll have more importance.
*TWGTT vs The Bashams should be the next tagtitle feud...although part of me would be just as happy to see Tajiri's goons get the belts to help out that program.
*Tajiri can feud with a number of guys...Rey Rey, Dragon, Noble...don't give me junk about Vince not knowing how to use cruiserweights, the WWE has built up a heel on par with Jericho back in his WCW run...that marks the 3rd time (Syxx Pac is the other) that WCW or the WWe managed to produce a top level heel in this division...not too shabby.
All and all I'm digging the road to Wrestlemania...lots of good feuds on both SmackDown and RAW...WOW.
Originally posted by bigfatgoalieAll and all I'm digging the road to Wrestlemania...lots of good feuds on both SmackDown and RAW...WOW.
Just sayin is all, but I honestly can't remember the last time what happened at Survivor Series bore any resemblance to what happened at the main event of the next WrestleMania...after 87 and 88 where, respectively, it sewed the seeds for the NBC Prime Time special and continued the ongoing MegaPowers storyline, Survivor Series seems more like a pit stop on the Road to WrestleMania than the on-ramp.
And yes, there are a few more examples, it's just that very few (if any, and even those are a reach) of them exist from the last few years.
Way back when HBK beat Bret Hart to win the title...at the same time Austin's face npush was kicked up a notch...it all resulteed in HBK vs Austin for thee WWF title.
And the feuds now will bee leading into Royal Rumble...I'm not suggesting that last nights show will lead directly into every aspect of Mania, just that from here on in the focus should be on setting up the matches for the big show.
It's possible that we're looking at two sides of the same square...that while yeah, Austin had an uber-push at the same time Shawnie won the title (it's funny how no one ever says it that way, though). So in that way, yes they did start the road off in Montreal.
But even though Austin threw the IC Belt in a lake a month later with the intent of going after the World title, Austin and DX didn't actually cross paths until after the Royal Rumble.
So call it two different roads heading to the same point as opposed to them playing bumper cars all the way to Boston. :)
I'm cool with an Eddie/Chavo feud if it leads to a redux of the skit where they had a burrito under a box and Chavo with a string in his hand whispering, "Here, Eddie Eddie Eddie...Here, Eddie Eddie Eddie..."
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First the post SS/road to WM thing.. Last year's road to WM started at the Survivor Series too when Brock lost the title and the whole Lesnar vs Heyman feud started.
You could say Jericho vs HHH @ WM18 started at Survivor Series too. Jericho became the cheating champ, beating Rock and Austin while at the horizon loomed the return of the big face H. (no need for HHHate comments on this, just talking in the sense of storyline here)
Originally posted by mercerWWE and logic?!?!?! You must be trippin'.
I might be on a HUGE trip then but I see a lot of logic right now.
for instance..Kane/Vince vs Taker...we saw this coming, but did anybody realise this goes way back to when Kane tombstoned Linda? Vince said he could use a monster, then used Brock for a short while on SD, but sorta dropped him when he went into his feud with Taker and got Kane. It's all rather logical, and freakin continueity (sp?) too!
Eddie and Chavo have been slowly falling apart. First Eddie loses focus (says Chavo) now Eddie can claim Chavo drops the ball (where you can guess Chavo will turn this around and lay the blame on Eddie again)..logic and interesting.
You want more logic? Let's go to Raw for a few. Austin has been behaving eratic for months, so Jericho really did have a reason to start a revolution against him.
Austin stunned Stacy for not drinking beer, which didn't make sense at first..but when he and Goldberg were in the ring 2-3 weeks ago and Goldberg didn't toast with him Austin looked at him and asked if he knew what happens to people who don't drink with him.. Yes, it was a heelish move to stunner Stacy, but it did put across that Austin will act against you even if you are a woman..
There are many flaws and forgotten stories but I hate it when people say there is no logic at all. There is a lot of it..you just have to allow yourself to see (and enjoy) it.
(edited by dMp on 18.11.03 0820) *sigh* Why bother?
Originally posted by dMp You could say Jericho vs HHH @ WM18 started at Survivor Series too. Jericho became the cheating champ, beating Rock and Austin while at the horizon loomed the return of the big face H.
Actually this happened in December at Armageddon. Survivor Series was the end of that Alliance Angle.
Originally posted by dMp Benoit vs Brock should rock on many levels. Benoit isn't a Jericho or Rock on the mic, but anybody who has seen Benoit taunt Angle knows that Benoit will be able to use the "you tapped out" tagline perfectly.
I'd go you one better and not have Benoit say anything. Let Brock run his mouth and say how Benoit can't take him, and have Benoit come in and just take him apart. Have Vince put Benoit in unfair situations and have him always just squeak it out. The last SD before whenever they do the Brock/Benoit match, have Crippler clamp Vince in a crossface.
What do you call Albert Einstein beatin' off? Give up? A stroke of genius!
What I meant was that the chances of them "logically" elevating guys like Beniot and Eddy, I just dont see happening. They are going to get a push, but vince thinks that they are too small, plus Vince doesn't realize just how over Eddy can be. Theres a huge latino market looking to be utilized by a world champ in Eddy, but Vince wont let that happen. As for Beniot, hes gonna get pushed, get a tv win over brock, but according to HHH hes too small to draw, so its never gonna happen...
Doing a rematch of the PPV main event that had a non-conclusive finish to set up said rematch and a rematch of the PPV semi-main with an added stip that was only announced ~4 minutes in advance tonight was some short sighted booking.