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Since: 7.10.02
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#21 Posted on
I'd love to see the WWE pick this up as an annual thing, like War Games. Maybe they could use it for 3-on-3 War Games matches, with two guys starting, and their partners in the chambers.

But if they really did spend so much money on this, I can't imagine them letting it collect dust in a warehouse in Stamford.



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#22 Posted on
See, angrycheesehead, "dropped the ball" means they didn't do exactly what people like fuelinjected wanted them to. They "dropped the ball" with RVD coz he didn't win the title from Trips righ tout of the gate. They "dropped the ball" with the nWo by not having them go over everyone, even though that would draw even more complaints. They "dropped the ball" with Jericho by FORCING him to wrestle mediocre matches and become a ridiculously cartoonish villain. They "dropped the ball" with Austin by not giving in to his demands and having Raw be the Austin Show for the next two years. They "dropped the ball" with Bischoff by allowing him to become one of the most entertaining non-wrestlers in a long, long time rather than...Hell, I don't know. And I really can't see how they fucked up Hogan comeback.

And on the subject of the Elimination Chamber, I think this should be Raw's marquee match of the year-or if the split dies a death, a Survivor Series annual tradition. The world champ is automatically entered, and they can have qualifying matches to decide the remainder of the competitors.




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#23 Posted on
If they do keep using it they gotta modify it, make it taller, when RVD and HBK went to the top to jump, they both had to crouch.



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Just looking at it you could tell it wasn't a disposable structure. In fact, I thought it made Hell in the Cell look a little weak, as it there's obviously a lot more give to the Cell (it being `only' chainlink fence and all ). I would imagine the bigger question is whether they feel they can use it again without someone getting hurt. From the way Van Dam sold an injury that "didn't happen", it's obvious they were planning on selling at least one injury coming out of the match. Depending on the severity of HHH's throat/neck injury, they'll either chalk it up to bad luck (or blame RVD) and move on, or they'll decide that it's just too dangerous.

I hope they use it again--that was a wicked, brutal match. But every time someone went over the top or took a bump on the metal staging outside the ring, I cringed... I was truly afraid someone wouldn't be walking at the end of the match (HBK comes to mind here).

edit: HitC comment added.

(edited by tarnish on 18.11.02 1622)


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#25 Posted on

    Originally posted by tarnish

    I hope they use it again--that was a wicked, brutal match. But every time someone went over the top or took a bump on the metal staging outside the ring, I cringed... I was truly afraid someone wouldn't be walking at the end of the match (HBK comes to mind here).



I was thinking the same thing. Whether or not you liked the booking, you have to admit that Michaels took some unecessarily wicked bumps during that match. "Cripple" or not, he's still one of the best sellers I've ever seen.



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DarrylTheHitman
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Since: 21.9.02
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#26 Posted on
I thought it might've been neat if one of the bits that was level with the ring had been gimmicked to give way--that way, Kane could've chokeslammed someone "Straight to hell, BY GAWD!" It might've come in useful for HHH--he could've laid down there and rested his throat until it was time for the finish.



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#27 Posted on

    Originally posted by oldschoolhero
    They "dropped the ball" with RVD coz he didn't win the title from Trips righ tout of the gate. They "dropped the ball" with the nWo by not having them go over everyone, even though that would draw even more complaints. They "dropped the ball" with Jericho by FORCING him to wrestle mediocre matches and become a ridiculously cartoonish villain. They "dropped the ball" with Austin by not giving in to his demands and having Raw be the Austin Show for the next two years. They "dropped the ball" with Bischoff by allowing him to become one of the most entertaining non-wrestlers in a long, long time rather than...Hell, I don't know. And I really can't see how they fucked up Hogan comeback


1. Gee, maybe if RVD had actually won or looked credible he'd be more of a draw. Sure I wonder if he would pull the same crap with Heyman or whatever that had him with the ECW TV belt for 2 years, but so what? When the ratings are down, you're supposed to experiment...

2. Actually no, they dropped the ball by even bothering with them.

3. They dropped it by sticking his reign in between Austin's last good run and the inevitable return of your boy HHH.

4. Yeah, he only carried the company since '98, you'd think they might listen to him instead of throwing him into shitty feuds and then wondering why he wouldn't agree to job to Lesnar in a booked-on-the-fly match. Superface Austin never had odds like Hogan vs. Dungeoun of Doom and Horsemen,or Sting vs. Nwo, or HHH vs. every Smackdown! midcarder and Kurt after the Rumble. And gee, HHH never lost to Austin after '99, how convenient!

5. My only problem with Bisch is that they're using him as the scapegoat for all these shitty ideas (HLA, Elim. Chamber etc.)

6. ONE hyped match in a location that still loves him is justifiable for a title reign and face turn? Geez, RVD better not go to Philly or Tazz to Brooklyn...
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Since: 21.9.02
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#28 Posted on
I agree with most of your points DD but I'd say Superface Austin did face huge odds when he faced the Corporation/Ministry/Corporate Ministry.



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#29 Posted on

    Originally posted by DarrylTheHitman
    I agree with most of your points DD but I'd say Superface Austin did face huge odds when he faced the Corporation/Ministry/Corporate Ministry.


Who were also fighting each other(Brood, HHH/Taker) and the "Union"-Foley, Shamrock, Test and I forgot who else. I'd say Austin keeping up with Benoit and Angle atones for most of his '99 crap as well.

Sting got help from Luger and Rick Steiner, while Hogan had Savage and Beefcake.
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#30 Posted on
Hey I never said it was crap; just pointing out the numbers game was all. Your points are generally well-received in my world.



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#31 Posted on

    Originally posted by oldschoolhero
    See, angrycheesehead, "dropped the ball" means they didn't do exactly what people like fuelinjected wanted them to. They "dropped the ball" with RVD coz he didn't win the title from Trips righ tout of the gate. They "dropped the ball" with the nWo by not having them go over everyone, even though that would draw even more complaints. They "dropped the ball" with Jericho by FORCING him to wrestle mediocre matches and become a ridiculously cartoonish villain. They "dropped the ball" with Austin by not giving in to his demands and having Raw be the Austin Show for the next two years. They "dropped the ball" with Bischoff by allowing him to become one of the most entertaining non-wrestlers in a long, long time rather than...Hell, I don't know. And I really can't see how they fucked up Hogan comeback.

    And on the subject of the Elimination Chamber, I think this should be Raw's marquee match of the year-or if the split dies a death, a Survivor Series annual tradition. The world champ is automatically entered, and they can have qualifying matches to decide the remainder of the competitors.



Thank you for clearing that up. I thought maybe I'd missed something....



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#32 Posted on
Ok, I finally sat through the PPV and it wasn't quite as bad as it sounded, except for the Mush Mouth bit and Mister Christian winning that is.

I was kind of wishing they'd make the chamber thingie closer to the 'Ready to Rumble' 3 tier cage. I'm probably the ONLY person who liked that thing, but then again, I'm probably the LAST Jeff Jarrett fan out here too.

Oh well...
DarrylTheHitman
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Since: 21.9.02
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#33 Posted on
I never saw the 3-cage thing so I wouldn't mind seeing it once. Same with the 3-cage thing they used during Bash 88(? the one with Jimmy Garvin feuding with Kevin Sullivan over Precious) and the cage they used when Hogan and Savage went over all of WCW at Uncensored 96. heck, I wouldn't mind seeing the ThunderDome again. I'd have to draw the line at the Chamber Of Horrors, though.



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