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Madame Manga
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Since: 16.1.02
From: Silicon Valley

Since last post: 66 days
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#1 Posted on
According to the new description of this forum. So I thought I'd better start a thread. ;-)

Someone mailed me to say that he thought the women's forum was the only one on Wienerville where the posts were almost uniformly worth reading, because of their general level of literacy and thoughtfulness. He was frustrated that he could not respond to the posts here.

I think I should write him back--I am bad with email right now--but for now, I'll toss this up for discussion. Are women, as the early suffragists maintained, somehow better fitted because of their sex to keep public discourse on an even keel and devoid of random dick-waving?

In my experience, many women's boards are as bland as Cream of Wheat ninety percent of the time. Nothing is said or read in an adversarial manner, by unspoken consensus. Although a women's wrestling board is less pure and wholesome than, say, a women's breastfeeding board, we still keep the faith here, IMO. By preference, our voltage is lower than on the general wrestling board. We don't feel compelled to insist to another poster ad nauseum that her personal favorite is a black hole of workrate or is holding down someone else's favorite or should have retired by now. If someone makes a comment with which we disagree, we don't call her a moron or suggest that she find another board.

But of course women's boards have their own way of blowing up--usually over claims and counter-claims of hurt feelings. Feelings are important in women's communities in a way that most men would consider ludicrous. We haven't had any catfights over here yet. Maybe it's because there are plenty of other places to make controversial comments about wrestling. Maybe there aren't enough of us here and the board isn't focused enough to bring in the fanatics and the prickly pears. (Oh, those Undertaker boards. Preserve me.) Maybe we just aren't talking enough. ;-) What do you think? Those of you with pink usernames, that is...

MM
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Ringmistress
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Since: 15.1.02
From: Philly

Since last post: 2706 days
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#2 Posted on
Huh?!

Kidding, the wordiness of the post threw me off for a second there. There aren't as many women who are into wrestling as there are men, but we're out there, and we need our place to vent our frustrations and (in my case) futile desires and fantasies... I know for a fact that a couple of men who read my posts really got a charge out of them. I'm not sure if it's good or bad, but I guess they need a breather from the conspiracy theories.

I've been to a few women's boards about pro wrestling, but many of them basically are female versions of the main board, pretty much.. This one, is different, in that conspiricies aren't front and center of everything. Seeing certain wrestlers NAKED is! At least, that's what I've been lead to believe...

Ringmistress



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Madame Manga
Kolbasz








Since: 16.1.02
From: Silicon Valley

Since last post: 66 days
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#3 Posted on
This is the only board I frequent that has more than about two regular male posters. Most of the rest are focused on almost nothing but seeing certain wrestlers NAKED, as you say. ;-) And the poster's pets, personal relationships, fantasies, fan fiction, health and job situations. You do get to know people on the female boards I know of, but actual wrestling talk is elusive.

I come here for more substantial discussions and to get a little relief from the chitchat. I'm not here for the conspiracy theories, no. ;-) I'm skipping tons of threads these days and making some use of the ignore function.

Me, wordy? Perish the thought. ;-) Maybe it was the three glasses of Cab last night...

MM
emma
Cherries > Peaches








Since: 1.8.02
From: Phoenix-ish

Since last post: 5 days
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#4 Posted on
Manga, you ignorant slut. (Oh, we're not doing classic Saturday Night Live? Never mind. :-) )

    Originally posted by Madame Manga
    Are women, as the early suffragists maintained, somehow better fitted because of their sex to keep public discourse on an even keel and devoid of random dick-waving?
Yes. Not that the phrase ďrandom dick-wavingĒ might be leading or pejorative or anything. :-)
    Originally posted by Madame Manga
    In my experience, many women's boards are as bland as Cream of Wheat ninety percent of the time. Nothing is said or read in an adversarial manner, by unspoken consensus. Although a women's wrestling board is less pure and wholesome than, say, a women's breastfeeding board, we still keep the faith here, IMO. By preference, our voltage is lower than on the general wrestling board. We don't feel compelled to insist to another poster ad nauseum that her personal favorite is a black hole of workrate or is holding down someone else's favorite or should have retired by now. If someone makes a comment with which we disagree, we don't call her a moron or suggest that she find another board.
There certainly are people who enjoy the name-calling, contentious, adversarial style of ďdiscussion:Ē Maybe its just coincidental that I know very few women who think thatís great good fun. (Actually I canít think of any, but Iím just doing that ďallowing for the possibilityĒ thing thatís part of the Womenís Code of Discourse.) I donít like watching other people do that sort of arguing, much less like participating in it. Iíve certainly had to do more than my share of that sort of nonsense in work situations Ė I canít imagine why Iíd want to for recreation. Which doesn't mean that you can't have disagreements -- its just that the style of handling them can be win-win, rather than win-lose. (Apologies for citing trendy management-speak.)
    Originally posted by Madame Manga
    But of course women's boards have their own way of blowing up--usually over claims and counter-claims of hurt feelings.
I don't hang out in many other women-oriented boards/newsgroups. In the few that I do (or have in the past), women in a squabble will usually take it offline, rather than bleeding feelings all over in public. (Which is, as we all know, rather unseemly.) Either that, or just walk away altogether.
    Originally posted by Madame Manga
    Feelings are important in women's communities in a way that most men would consider ludicrous.
Iíd actually say that the other way around: Many menís communities blatantly disregard (or actively trammel over) feelings in a way that most women consider appalling. In my experience Ė at least among the women I generally hang out or work with -- you donít have to be all gooshy-feelie, hyper-sensitive, tiptoe-on-eggshells. Generally just some politeness, civility, & regard for other people is whatís necessary. And many men will respond to that environment equally well. (They donít all want to be cavemen, thudding each other over the head with blunt objects.)
    Originally posted by Madame Manga
    We haven't had any catfights over here yet. Maybe it's because there are plenty of other places to make controversial comments about wrestling. Maybe there aren't enough of us here and the board isn't focused enough to bring in the fanatics and the prickly pears. (Oh, those Undertaker boards. Preserve me.) Maybe we just aren't talking enough. ;-) What do you think? Those of you with pink usernames, that is...

    MM

Maybe, as much as we like/love wrestling, it generally isn't worth the energy for us to get all that frothed up. Especially at one another.



And we can have intelligent opinion/discussion, and express interest in seeing certain wrestlers naked. Both of those are good things!
Tomboy
Chipolata








Since: 6.3.03
From: Jersey

Since last post: 3246 days
Last activity: 3246 days
#5 Posted on

    Originally posted by Madame Manga
    Maybe it's because there are plenty of other places to make controversial comments about wrestling. Maybe there aren't enough of us here and the board isn't focused enough to bring in the fanatics and the prickly pears. (Oh, those Undertaker boards. Preserve me.) Maybe we just aren't talking enough. ;-) What do you think?MM

I'm not a message board person to be quite honest with you. I'm not even sure how I stumbled here (though knowing myself as I do, I was probably up to no good). So, I'm not sure how valid my comments are.

With that being said, I don't know what constitutes a busy board or if there are certain standards to keep, such as 410 posts a day, of which: 374 need to be worthless, 17 need to insult other people's intelligence (or there lack of), 14 need to bash HHH, and 5 have to actually have substance. Because truthfully, I'd rather have 5 with substance than the rest. I mean, don't get me wrong, it's fun to bag other people's fav wrestlers and all, but after 4,253,985 of them, it gets kind of...weird.

Perhaps it's just as simple as we aren't talking enough. But I think if something really needs to be said it will find it's way here for discussion.

What's that phrase: Quality over quantity?

I may post up some random thoughts of shows and all but usually something interesting comes out of it. It's always intriguing to see how someone else perceived a particular show or event.

I am having fun here. My chick friends suck and don't like wrestling. And as much as I enjoy (read: prefer) hanging with the boys and discussing wrestling...sometimes it's nice to just have someone to swoon with when some gorgeous creature graces my tv screen.

Just my thoughts...



~Tomboy
stacey
Weisswurst








Since: 19.3.02
From: panama city, florida

Since last post: 4188 days
Last activity: 4165 days
#6 Posted on
I lurk here a couple of times a week, but this is only my second post. It's not that I don't have anything to say. It's just that by the time I read a thread, it's already been said by someone else. I've never felt I should post just to say, "Me, too." Since this thread is about why women don't post,though, I thought I should actually speak up this time. I will say I think this is the best message board on the Net. In fact, it's the only one I come to. CRZ rules here with an iron hand, but the result is a message board with plenty of intelligent discussion and (mostly) empty of trolls. Like other women here, I don't have any friends who watch wrestling, so it's nice to see what other fans have to say. It's especially nice to see what other women have to say. So, thanks, ladies.

The one difference I've noticed between this forum and the guy-dominated ones is that there hasn't been a single thread devoted to "Ugliest Diva" or "Ugliest Wrestler". You ladies talk about the guys you think are sexy, but you don't devote entire threads to insulting the wrestlers you find unattractive. Why do men do that? It just seems so petty and cruel. I would say that they are getting revenge on all the pretty girls who won't talk to them, but they bust on the guys, too.

Anyway, even though I probably don't speak up enough, I'm glad to read the opinions of all the rest of you and I hope you gals keep it up.
emma
Cherries > Peaches








Since: 1.8.02
From: Phoenix-ish

Since last post: 5 days
Last activity: 2 hours
#7 Posted on

    Originally posted by stacey
    It's not that I don't have anything to say. It's just that by the time I read a thread, it's already been said by someone else. I've never felt I should post just to say, "Me, too."
I think we all have the "me too" problem. Two observations about that though. First, I find that, even if I think all I have to say is a "me too", often if I actually start responding, I find I actually do have at least a bit of value added to contribute. Second (& it is a bit of a women's thing), it is good to have some validation of one's observations or opinion. (And that applies whether its "I think so too", or even if its "I see where you're going, but disagree.")


    Originally posted by stacey
    The one difference I've noticed between this forum and the guy-dominated ones is that there hasn't been a single thread devoted to "Ugliest Diva" or "Ugliest Wrestler". You ladies talk about the guys you think are sexy, but you don't devote entire threads to insulting the wrestlers you find unattractive. Why do men do that? It just seems so petty and cruel. I would say that they are getting revenge on all the pretty girls who won't talk to them, but they bust on the guys, too.
What is the deal with that??? Because a message board is anonymous, they feel they can get away with it, where they'd get slapped silly if they tried it in the real world? I don't get it either.


    Originally posted by stacey
    Anyway, even though I probably don't speak up enough, I'm glad to read the opinions of all the rest of you and I hope you gals keep it up.
Well come on out more often! We're glad to have you.
Tomboy
Chipolata








Since: 6.3.03
From: Jersey

Since last post: 3246 days
Last activity: 3246 days
#8 Posted on

    Originally posted by stacey
    Anyway, even though I probably don't speak up enough, I'm glad to read the opinions of all the rest of you and I hope you gals keep it up.

I think this message board thing is addicting. I mean, couple weeks ago I was this innocent (insert laughter here) little non-message board kind of chick...and look at me now...*shakes head*

Perhaps, you shall become addicted as well. :-)



~Tomboy
stacey
Weisswurst








Since: 19.3.02
From: panama city, florida

Since last post: 4188 days
Last activity: 4165 days
#9 Posted on
emma, you make some good points. Maybe, a "me too" does serve a purpose. Or, maybe, like Tomboy, I am becoming addicted and twice is not enough

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