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David and Tony, respectively.

Is George just letting everyone walk this off-season? Last I heard, Wells was about to sign a minor league deal with the Yanks.



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That's 3/4 of the Yankees post-season rotation leaving the Bronx. For a team built on pitching, its a real blow.
As for Tony Clark: Tony Clark can be a productive hitter. Of course, he does it once his team falls 15-20 games out of the race. The one time in his career he was on a team not mathematically eliminated in April, he sucked. Thus, I don't see him doing much for the Yankees.



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The Boss must have told Wells that they were not bringing him back. Having read his book I can't help but believe that if there was any hope of Boomer getting a contract from the Yanks he wouldn't have signed elsewhere, regardless of whether the Padres are his hometown team or not.



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Ah crap, I don't know how I feel about this.

We really need starting pitchers - it's just that I've spent the last 5 years comfortably hating Wells.

Yay?



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    Originally posted by Guru Zim
    Ah crap, I don't know how I feel about this.

    We really need starting pitchers - it's just that I've spent the last 5 years comfortably hating Wells.

    Yay?
Is Wells suddenly going to stop being a big fat idiot? No? Well, I have a few ideas how you should feel about that, then.



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Fat idiot or no, he can still pitch and he is a lefty, not that it really matters these days.

Its a good pickup if they dont pay too much for him.
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    Originally posted by PalpatineW
    David and Tony, respectively.

    Is George just letting everyone walk this off-season? Last I heard, Wells was about to sign a minor league deal with the Yanks.


No. The problem is that I think there are two problems. One, George can't conceive of anyone not wanting to wear Yankee pinstripes, especially if they are already there. Two, George's act and the circus surrounding the Yankees is wearing even on people like Wells. And maybe three, the media scrutiny in NY is beyond the pale for many.

As an Indians fan since the early '60's, I hope this signals the downfall of the Yanks. Probably not, but I can dream.



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Let's also mention another pitching move, though it's hardly going to affect any postseason results, Jason Johnson to Detroit.

It's a fine move for the Tigers, since they need all the help they can get; Johnson might actually thrive in the pitcher-friendly Comerica Park. As for the Orioles, it baffles me why they wouldn't resign Johnson, especially since the Tigers got him for relatively cheap. Baltimore's pitching staff is junk; are they too blinded by the pursuit of the big-name guys (Tejada, Javy Lopez, Vladdy) that they're letting the smaller names get away?

As for David Wells, I think the most troubling part of it for Padres fans is that in the article I read about the signing, it mentioned that San Diego went for Wells 'after not having enough money to sign Greg Maddux.' Uh oh.

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His attitude is the closest to Babe Ruth as is playing today, and almost no one would call The Babe an idiot.

Granted, Ruth is a legend and Wells is just Wells, but all talent differences aside, they're both overweight, drunken carousers who could pitch, and they both weren't in the best favor with Yankees brass at all times.

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The reasons that I have read that Wells is playing for SD is that
1) He lives in that area

2) The Pads offered him a much better contract than the Yankees did ( I guess a pretty sweet incentive-laden deal)
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    Originally posted by Big Bad
    Let's also mention another pitching move, though it's hardly going to affect any postseason results, Jason Johnson to Detroit.

    It's a fine move for the Tigers, since they need all the help they can get; Johnson might actually thrive in the pitcher-friendly Comerica Park. As for the Orioles, it baffles me why they wouldn't resign Johnson, especially since the Tigers got him for relatively cheap.



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Tigers signed RHP Jason Johnson, who had been with the Orioles, to a two-year, $7 million contract. The Tigers are overpaying again. Even though Johnson has never had an ERA under 4.00 and his WHIP climbed all the way to 1.56 last season, the 30-year-old right-hander will earn $3 million in 2004 and $4 million in 2005. He does have pretty good stuff and he can be an excellent pitcher for a month or two at a time, but the Tigers are giving him twice what he's worth.


As for the Yankees losing 3/4 of their rotation. I think they have upgraded. I like Mussina, Brown, Vazquez, Lieber better than their last year's rotation. And I am not a fan of the Yankees either.






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    Originally posted by pieman
      Originally posted by Big Bad
      Let's also mention another pitching move, though it's hardly going to affect any postseason results, Jason Johnson to Detroit.

      It's a fine move for the Tigers, since they need all the help they can get; Johnson might actually thrive in the pitcher-friendly Comerica Park. As for the Orioles, it baffles me why they wouldn't resign Johnson, especially since the Tigers got him for relatively cheap.



    Not what Rotoword thinks (or lots of other people): Click Here (rotoworld.com)

    Tigers signed RHP Jason Johnson, who had been with the Orioles, to a two-year, $7 million contract. The Tigers are overpaying again. Even though Johnson has never had an ERA under 4.00 and his WHIP climbed all the way to 1.56 last season, the 30-year-old right-hander will earn $3 million in 2004 and $4 million in 2005. He does have pretty good stuff and he can be an excellent pitcher for a month or two at a time, but the Tigers are giving him twice what he's worth.


    As for the Yankees losing 3/4 of their rotation. I think they have upgraded. I like Mussina, Brown, Vazquez, Lieber better than their last year's rotation. And I am not a fan of the Yankees either.







All I know about Johnson is that he outpitched or pitched even against Pedro Martinez the 3 times they went head to head, so I'm not sad to see him leave Baltimore. As for Detroit overpaying him, they did. But, when you lose 119 games you have to overpay for someone, because a rousing 19 game improvement would still be a 100 loss season.
As for the Yankees rotation: Mussina is a wash. Brown if he's healthy can be very good, but he's 39 and has had back and arm problems. Vazquez is an improvement on an over 40 Clemens long term if he can adjust to the AL (4-8 career interleague record). As for Lieber, usually its the second year back that a guy does well after Tommy John surgery, with struggles in his first season. And I still don't believe in the 47 year old Jose Contreras.



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As for the Yankees losing 3/4 of their rotation. I think they have upgraded.

Big problem with that notion: No lefties. And Yankee Stadium favors lefty pitchers.

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