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24.11.14 2001
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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.00
The Wellness Policy

Mason Ryan

How do the two exist at the same time?

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Doesn't the Wellness Policy dictate random drug testing? Mason Ryan has been around for such a short amount of time that it's reasonable to assume he legitimately hasn't even been tested. Batista, on the other hand...
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    Originally posted by InVerse
    Batista, on the other hand...


...has been gone for a year, was never suspended for a wellness violation to my knowledge, and decreased his muscle mass noticably before he left WWE.



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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.26
And I've worked for my current employer for almost 15 years and have been subject to random testing for that same amount of time and I've never taken a wiz quiz.



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Matt Tracker
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Ryan's similarity to Batista is closest in his new choice of run-in moves. He went from a seated sideslam to the power bomb.

I like the power bomb in theory, but it's a much cooler move when used by a small guy against a small guy. The big-man bomb has lost its value due to inflation.

I'd give him Drew McIntyre's facefirst Gunslinger. It looks nasty, is a novel take on a recognized move, and seems much more painful when delivered by a larger opponent.



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BigDaddyLoco
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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.00
    Originally posted by Rudoublesedoublel
    And I've worked for my current employer for almost 15 years and have been subject to random testing for that same amount of time and I've never taken a wiz quiz.


I bet if you went to work noticeably high that wouldn't be the case.

The main eventers are still big, but they are smaller than ten years ago.

The mid card is WAY smaller than ten years ago.

The WWE has handed out discipline to offenders, some of which are top guys.

They like to tout the Wellness Policy in corporate propaganda.

... and yet there is Mason Ryan. He plays a big muscle bound monster enforcer. A guy who more or less made Husky Harris redundant in the Nexus. He might not have been 'randomly' tested yet, but knowing what everybody knows should they really be pushing this guy, even a little?

I'm assuming testing doesn't occur in OVW and being really big is still a good ticket to making it to the show.

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"Knowing what everyone knows"? Has Mason Ryan taking to wearing an "I Love Steroids" T-shirt or something?
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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.58
    Originally posted by John Orquiola
    ...has been gone for a year, was never suspended for a wellness violation to my knowledge, and decreased his muscle mass noticably before he left WWE.


Being gone for a year is beside the point. He was around for multiple years while the Wellness Policy was in effect. My point was that using Mason Ryan as an example of why the Wellness Policy might not be as stringent as it's touted to be isn't very effective because even if it were 100% legit, Ryan has only been around for a couple of months. Batista is a much better example, unless I've missed the announcement of changes to the Wellness Policy in the last year.

Of course, if it were anything more than a PR move, they'd be doing mandatory testing to the entire locker room, not the random bullshit that companies use as an excuse to get rid of people when they want.
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Yeah, they totally wanted to suspend Jeff Hardy all those times. Rey Mysterio when he almost quit, too.
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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.58
    Originally posted by Amos Cochran
    Yeah, they totally wanted to suspend Jeff Hardy all those times. Rey Mysterio when he almost quit, too.


Jeff Hardy dying of a drug overdose is the exact sort of PR they're trying to avoid. (Whereas it will likely raise TNA's profile.)

Rey Mysterio was a gimme for them. It gave them the opportunity to say "Hey, look, we're serious about this, we're suspending big names!" without making said big name look bad because he had a legitimate excuse and was taking perfectly legal medication that didn't even violate the Wellness Policy. I'm not privy to the sales info, obviously, but I doubt very much that the sale of Rey replica masks was at all damaged by his 4 week's off TV.
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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.77
springs for HGH
and/or
springs for HGH as well as whatever else is the new test-beating drugs and technology
and/or
has the great genetics to maximize his bodybuilding work and alleged PEDs boost more than other average wrestlers
and/or
hasn't been full-time on the road long enough to shrink (look at Otunga at the beginning of NXT vs. Nexus Otunga circa November)
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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.26
    Originally posted by BigDaddyLoco

    I bet if you went to work noticeably high that wouldn't be the case.





Not recently, but before I was married I lived pretty hard. There were many times I'd come in on 3 hours sleep with a serious hangover and other times I'd come in with a pleasant buzz. People had to suspect something, but because I showed up on time and did my job well nothing was ever said to me about it.

I may be a cynic, but IMO wellness policies are just window dressing. They're in place as a mechanism for dealing with problem employees and a means of providing help to good employees who start to slip. Hiring and training costs are prohibitive enough that employers don't want to take disciplinary action without necessity.

But, in a roundabout way that brings me back to more or less agreeing with the OP (I think). WWE had a wellness policy out of necessity. They don't really want to hassle anyone, they just want to give the appearance of monitoring - but they do expcect their employees to self-police.



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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.00
    Originally posted by InVerse
    Doesn't the Wellness Policy dictate random drug testing? Mason Ryan has been around for such a short amount of time that it's reasonable to assume he legitimately hasn't even been tested.


I don't know of many employers these days who don't drug test BEFORE you get the job....

Mason Ryan has no future in the WWE, when the Nexus/Coree angle ends, Ryan ends.

Looks like Ryan has gained 30 pounds in a month....
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