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For the non-playoff teams, I'm using the Wild Card tie-breakers. Why? Because I'm calculating how far back they're from the #6 seed.
1. Apply division tie breaker to eliminate all but the highest ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2.
The original seeding within a division upon application of the division tie breaker remains the same for all subsequent applications of the procedure that are necessary to identify the three Wild-Card participants.
2. Head-to-head sweep. (Applicable only if one club has defeated each of the others or if one club has lost to each of the others.)
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.

I have added markers for teams eliminated from playoffs. Uppercase omega, Ω, for teams out of the playoffs, lower case omega, ω, for teams that have been eliminated from their divisional title, but still alive for a wildcard spot.

x-Clinched Wildcard spot
y-Clinched Divisional title
z-Clinched Homefield advantage

ω-Eliminated from divisional title contention
Ω-Eliminated from playoff contention

AFC
1. Pittsburgh Steelers 11-1 (Beat NE) AFC North Leader
2. New England Patriots 11-1 (Lost to Pittsburgh) AFC East Leader
3. San Diego Chargers 9-3 (7-2 in AFC) AFC West Leader
4. Indianapolis Colts 9-3 (5-3 in AFC) AFC South Leader
5. New York Jets 9-3 (7-3 in AFC) Wildcard
6. Baltimore Ravens 7-5 (5-4 in AFC, Beat NY Jets) Wildcard


7. Denver Broncos 7-5 (4-4 in AFC) (0 GB)

8. Jacksonville Jaguars 6-6 (5-5 in AFC) (1 GB)
9. ω-Cincinnati Bengals 6-6 (4-6 in AFC) (1 GB)
10. ω-Buffalo Bills 6-6 (3-6 in AFC) (1 GB)

11. Houston Texans 5-7 (5-4 in AFC) (2 GB)

12. ω-Kansas City Chiefs 4-8 (3-5 in AFC) (beat Oakland) (3 GB)
13. ω-Tennessee Titans 4-8 (3-6 in AFC) (3 GB)
14. ω-Oakland Raiders 4-8 (2-6 in AFC) (3 GB)

15. ω-Cleveland Browns 3-9 (2-6 in AFC) (4 GB)

16. Ω-Miami Dolphins 2-10

Wildcard Weekend
#6 Ravens @ #3 Chargers
#5 Jets @ #4 Colts
Divisional games
#3 Chargers or Winner of Jets-Colts @ #2 Patriots
Winner of Jets-Colts or #6 Ravens @ #1 Steelers

x-Clinched Wildcard spot
y-Clinched Divisional title
z-Clinched Homefield advantage

ω-Eliminated from divisional title contention
Ω-Eliminated from playoff contention

NFC
1. y-Philadelphia Eagles 11-1 NFC East Champion
2. Atlanta Falcons 9-3 NFC South Leader
3. Green Bay Packers 7-5 (6-3 in NFC) NFC North Leader
4. St. Louis Rams 6-6 (6-3 in NFC) NFC West Leader NFC West Leader
5. Minnesota Vikings 7-5 (4-4 in NFC, Lost to GB) Wildcard
6. Seattle Seahawks 6-6 (5-4 in NFC, Lost to Rams twice)


7. Carolina Panthers 5-7 (Beat TB; 2-1 in div; 4-4 in NFC) (Beat Detroit & NYG on NFC Record) (1 GB)
8. Detroit Lions 5-7 (Beat Chicago, 4-5 in NFC) (Beat TB on common games. 2-1 (it will eventually be 4 games due to one being Chicago)) (1 GB)
9. Tampa Bay Buccaneers 5-7 (Beat NO; Lost to Carolina; 2-2 in Div, 4-5 in NFC) (Beat Chicago head-to-head and on NFC Record; lost to Det on common games 2-2) (1 GB)
10. Chicago Bears 5-7 (Lost to Detroit, 4-6 in NFC) (Beat NYG on NFC Record) (1 GB)
11. ω-New York Giants 5-7 (4-7 in NFC) (1 GB)
12. ω-Dallas Cowboys 5-7 (4-4 in NFC; lost to Giants) (1 GB)

13. ω-Washington Redskins 4-8 (4-4 in NFC) (2 GB)
14. Arizona Cardinals 4-8 (3-5 in NFC) (2 GB)
15. ω-New Orleans Saints 4-8 (2-6) (2 GB)

16. Ω-San Francisco 49ers 1-11 (1-8 in NFC)

Wildcard Weekend
#6 Seahawks @ #3 Packers
#5 Vikings @ #4 Rams
Divisional games
#3 Packers or Winner of Vikings-Rams @ #2 Falcons
Winner of Vikings-Seahawks or #6 Seahawks @ #1 Eagles

(edited by Zeruel on 7.12.04 1150)



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Big props to the Chargers and Steelers for helping us out yesterday....



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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.96
    Originally posted by Grimis
    Big props to the Chargers and Steelers for helping us out yesterday....


You got your work cut out though in a few weeks time...road games at the Colts and Steelers.

Mind you, my Bills, while hot, have their own work cut out because they lose just about every tie-breaker possible should it come down to that.



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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.29
    Originally posted by MARTYEWR
    You got your work cut out though in a few weeks time...road games at the Colts and Steelers.
Tell me about it. That's why it was so important to win-out at home. We've got the Giants and the Dolphins still at home, but 9-7 isn't going to cut it in the AFC at least.





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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.00
I'm rooting for the Panthers to clinch that final spot.

And fuck the Broncos.
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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.51
    Originally posted by Grimis
      Originally posted by MARTYEWR
      You got your work cut out though in a few weeks time...road games at the Colts and Steelers.
    Tell me about it. That's why it was so important to win-out at home. We've got the Giants and the Dolphins still at home, but 9-7 isn't going to cut it in the AFC at least.





9-7 might be able to sneak a team in on a tie-breaker. Denver doesn't have an easy schedule and Jake Plummer is showing yet again why he is Jake Plummer. Buffalo and Cinci go head-to-head, so one has to lose. Also, Buffalo has Pittsburgh and Cinci has New England, so at best they probably go 9-7. OF course, if the vaunted Baltimore Defense/Dancing Team can't hold a 17 point lead at home in the 4th quarter, perhaps they find a way to lose to the Giants or Dolphins. Sadly, the Dolphins would be a bigger threat than the Giants at this point. And, Baltimore has to hope someone picks off Jacksonville to keep them from 10.



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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.00
    Originally posted by redsoxnation
    Denver doesn't have an easy schedule and Jake Plummer is showing yet again why he is Jake Plummer.

I was ready to jump all over Shanahan after Plummer threw that fourth INT on 1st & Goal. I thought that was his call, but found out via morning radio that Plummer audibled to that play since he thought San Diego was playing man. Peyton Manning he ain't.

That being said, Plummer is the least of our problems.

(edited by Broncolanche on 6.12.04 0933)
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Remaining AFC schedules for wild-card teams:

Baltimore: NYG, at IND, at PIT, MIA
Buffalo: CLE, at CIN, at SF, PIT
Cincinnati: at NE, BUF, NYG, at PHI
Denver: MIA, at KC, at TEN, IND
Houston: IND, at CHI, JAC, CLE
Jacksonville: CHI, at GB, at HOU, at OAK
NY Jets: at PIT, SEA, NE, at STL

The Bills and that Jags have the easiest road into the playoffs, and the Jets could still blow this with that brutal schedule. The Bengals schedule isn't a cakewalk either.





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If I had to take any of 'em to go 10-6 (outwith the Jets) I'd probably plump for Denver. KC and Tennessee are beatable, Indy might not care by then, and Miami still suck.

But then Baltimore should be able to beat Pittsburgh who I still don't think are all that. They're very good, but far from unbeatable. And if a great D beats a great O then Indy should be doable as well.

That's a nasty finish for the Jets though. Sucky as the Rams and Hawks can be, if they manage to find their game then the Jets might struggle.



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It's a nasty end to the schedule for the Jets, but I think they'll be okay. They might give Pittsburgh a run for their money, seeing as Roethlisberger's been slowed down by defenses lately. I think Jets should beat Seattle, and might even beat St. Louis on the road. Win or lose, they'll give New England a tough game.



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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.19
    Originally posted by MARTYEWR
    Mind you, my Bills, while hot, have their own work cut out because they lose just about every tie-breaker possible should it come down to that.


We have to hope they win out (which would bump Cinci back in the process), hope the Jags and Ravens falter, then hope the finale means nothing to Pittsburgh. With that said, I would not be surprised if the Bills pulled an upset the final week at home, even if it does have some signifigance for them (especially if Buffalo is still fighting for a spot themselves).



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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.12
    Originally posted by Broncolanche
    I'm rooting for the Panthers to clinch that final spot.

    And fuck the Broncos.




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    Originally posted by Broncolanche
    And fuck the Broncos.




And the Raiders too. Although I think you say that for different reasons than I do.



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For the record, I'm not suddenly anti-Broncos. I'm just really mad at them right now.
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Trust me, Pitt has circled that Baltimore week since week two. I don't expect the Raven's dance team to come in and win. That said, it would be nice if someone would try to beat the Pats before the end of the year. Why is up to Pittsburg to keep teams like the Falcons, Colts, Chargers and Jets vying for the second or first spot when they don't have the balls to beat the Patriots or Eagles themselves. Come on, does anyone really want the boring Pats in another superbowl with Tom Orton Brady winning it in the last seconds. That is just boring. Its get the Steelers in there to tear apart T.O. and Philly again, it will be fun. Couldn't be any worse than letting the Bills in again.



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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.04
    Originally posted by Broncolanche
    For the record, I'm not suddenly anti-Broncos. I'm just really mad at them right now.


Me too, especially Jake Plummer. (Thanks for that -1 performance, buddy!)

Personally I'm rooting for this to happen:

    Originally posted by Jeffrey Flanagan of the Kansas City Star
    OK, to start with, the scenario concedes that the Chargers, Colts, Patriots and Steelers will win their respective divisions, and that the Jets will sew up the first playoff spot.

    After that, here's how it all works:

    • Buffalo, now 5-6, loses to Miami and Cleveland, beats Cincinnati and San Francisco, and then loses to Pittsburgh to finish at 7-9.

    • Cincinnati, now 5-6, beats Baltimore, but loses to New England, Buffalo and Philadelphia while beating the Giants and finishes 7-9, out of the playoffs.

    • Jacksonville, 6-5, loses to Pittsburgh, Chicago, Green Bay and Houston over the next four weeks to also go to 6-9 entering the final week. Out of the playoffs.

    • Houston, 5-6, loses to the Jets, Colts and Bears over the next three weeks, giving them nine losses and pushing them out of the playoff race.

    • Tennessee, 4-7, loses at Indianapolis and against the Chiefs over the next two weeks, getting to nine losses and out of the race.

    • Denver, 7-4, loses its final five games against San Diego, Miami, the Chiefs, Tennessee and Indianapolis and finishes 7-9.

    • Oakland, 4-7, loses its next two games to the Chiefs and Atlanta and gets loss No. 9.

    • Baltimore, 7-4, loses its next four games to Cincinnati, the Giants, Indianapolis and Pittsburgh, and then beats Miami to finish 8-8.

    • The Chiefs, of course, win out to also go 8-8.

    The Chiefs own the tiebreaker over Baltimore and sneak in as the second wild-card team.

    Just as easy as that.

    http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/sports/columnists/jeffrey_flanagan/10341647.htm




That went up originally yesterday morning...I think that I got screwed by the Buffalo win.

(edited by Whitebacon on 6.12.04 1527)

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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.19
    Originally posted by Whitebacon
    I think that I got screwed by the Buffalo win.


GOOD! :)

(edited by King Of Crap on 6.12.04 2128)


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Although Carolina has been very impressive of late, I'm still worried about the second half of the schedule... out of the four wins the team has put together, only one has been against a half-decent team in Tampa Bay. I like this week's matchup against St. Louis, because it's (a) at home. The Rams are on a 3-game losing streak giving up an average of 22 points per game. (b) Chandler is starting over Bulger. Hopefully Trgovac will exploit Chandler's lack of mobility and try and get as much pressure on him as possible with more blitz packages, a problem that they've had up until recently. (c) St. Louis's run defense is horrible, while Carolina's offensive line has finally found a decent combination, and Nick Goings of all people has three straight 100-yard games.

That being said, the Panthers finish up with road games at Atlanta and Tampa, and then a home game versus New Orleans. A split on those two road games and a win against New Orleans would put the team at 8-8, with a decent chance of getting in the playoffs this year. 9-7 would probably make them a lock, but Mike Vick has always seemed to own the Panthers, plus Tampa will be looking for revenge at home, and they'll actually have a kicking game that doesn't manage to blow the game for them.
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If I didn't know better, I would swear that New England, Pittsburgh, and Philly have like 10 games left, because it seems like every wild card hopefully has one or two games to play against them. I can't think of a recent season where the top teams have this much potential impact on the lesser teams.



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What a crazy week, this weeks scoreboard throughout the league looked more like college football scores, heck forget NCAA football more like NCAA basketball scores... Dal/Sea 43-39, Buf/Mia 42-32, The Pats scoring 42, Philly scoring 47, and Indy 51.

Atlanta is one of the teams that's getting heel heat from me this year and I like Vick, but I just don't like the team and they don't deserve their record. One of the crazier stats this year is Atlanta winning 75% of their games with a 9-3 record but having a MINUS-10 Points for/against differential for the season... How is that even possible? Well I know how it's possible, they play down to their opponents when they win and get smoked when they lose.

Jets offense seem to be back on track now with Pennington back. The other NY team(The Giants) look totally deflated. They started the season 4-1 since then they are 1-6 (losing 5 straight now). I still say Warner should be in there, this is just not a good position to put Eli in... Don't know what to make out of the Bills, the game was still close it seemed more like Miami gave the game away (7 turnovers will do that).



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