Ugh - I couldn't get the stupid bit torrent thing working last night. I should have just posted the file.
I've got the 100 meg version of it and the two HQ versions. I don't know how long your video is - I'm running off to work. Hopefully Chris can figure out what I did wrong setting up the bittorrent tracker.
Sorry guys. I feel like I've let you down.
Willful ignorance of science is not commendable. Refusing to learn the difference between a credible source and a shill is criminally stupid.
Originally posted by SobriquetHaving watched this, I'm more saddened by the behaviour of many of the students than I am by Warrior's words.
The man is a bigot, yes, but you'd think educated college students could do better than the f-shots and half-witted barbs they were throwing at him.
If I am going to the trouble to attend a lecture by a keynote speaker, I am also going to go to the trouble of learning about said speaker. These kids quite clearly did not. Shameful.
If I am going to attend a lecture by a keynote speaker I vehemently disagree with, I'm going to make damned sure I have formulated strong, well thought out and informed opinions and arguments before getting involved in any kind of back and forth with him or her.
These kids clearly did not. Wow. Just wow.
If they were so up in arms about this guy, why not actually do something constructive?
And CRZ is right -- it isn't really worth the time spent watching it. If you want to get upset about someone railing against homosexuals for a minute or two, go read some Jerry Falwell or something.
Warrior has some skewed thinking, but these students need to seriously question why they're in college if they can't deal with such an individual in a mature and collected manner.
I watched the entire thing and I must say that the students tried to actually debate his points but Mr Warrior was the one who was quick to dismiss and ignore the points. I don't see what he presented that would somehow be acceptable had the students learned about him. He is a bigot and as such, it is quite difficult to properly engage in a thoughtful and polite discussion with such a person because their bigotry displays a distinct lack of respect of facts and as he would repeat for no good reason, "reality".
For me, the fact that anyone takes that fool seriously is what is saddening.
Originally posted by Guru ZimUgh - I couldn't get the stupid bit torrent thing working last night. I should have just posted the file.
I've got the 100 meg version of it and the two HQ versions. I don't know how long your video is - I'm running off to work. Hopefully Chris can figure out what I did wrong setting up the bittorrent tracker.
Sorry guys. I feel like I've let you down.
The torrent was downloading for me just fine (15 or so peers) when I left for work. I have no idea what the final product will be, but it should be OK. What problem did you have?
Not that this had to do much with the subject at hand; as my threads often dont-
but I remember reading this interview with Ultimate Warrior (Im sure it was on ign but I cant find the link now) or something, where he talks about meeting Hogan and thinking the guy was a really immature egomaniac- only to then go on talking about how great he is and a bunch of other stupid crap about being enlightened and talking at schools and people being shocked at first but then getting used to his "black and white" view of the world-
whatever, he came off as a self righteous @$$hole to me- but hey, it was a text interview; the point is- who knows how loony the guy is? Of course many sources (like Jesse Ventura) agree that he is a wacko.
It doesnt surprise me that there would be an incident like this- s'what happens when a crazy man is being paid to run his mouth.
(edited by WhoTookMyHonor? on 7.4.05 1522) -Signed WTMH, The Unfathomable One (say that 5 times fast!)
I am unfamiliar with a .torrent file. I downloaded everything but my Winamp, Media Player and Real Player don't work with it. Do I need something else?
I was trying to host the torrent last night but I couldn't get it started. Someone else got a hold of the footage and started the torrent elsewhere. Had it not been 2am with me needing to work at 10am I would have probably gotten it going, but it didn't work out.
I actually was able to set up a torrent tracker and create the torrent, but I wasn't able to seed it from the webserver. Something was wrong with my python setup and __future__ was not providing the division operation which btdownloadheadless.py needed. I think this is due to me being on an older version of python, but when I tried to update it using apt-get it told me I was up to date.
I think I needed 2.3 and I think I had 2.1. I think I've lost you all by now anyway...
Anyway, if anyone is interested, I also have the 700 meg version and an 80 meg HQ version of just the Q&A which I will be trying to get going later. This would be more for a media type.
Also, the guy provided me with copies of Warrior's rebuttle letter and his original letter to the administration. I'll be posting those as well later.
Willful ignorance of science is not commendable. Refusing to learn the difference between a credible source and a shill is criminally stupid.
You need to download a BitTorrent program like BitTorrent or TurboTorrent (the one I use). After downloading the torrent file of Warrior's appearance, open the torrent program and then select "open file"/"open torrent" and choose the torrent of the Warrior's appearance. That will begin the download of the full file (97.8 mb).
Of course, whether you want to get a torrent program is probably a bigger issue. Just like with Kazaa, you can unknowingly download all sorts of viruses, spyware and assorted crap. Only the buggers seem worse with torrent programs, at least in my experience.
If you do decide to download and use a torrent program, make sure leave the program open (and don't select "delete torrent file") after you finish downloading the file. You'll keep uploading the file to others. It's all generous and stuff.
Whether Warrior was pushed into reacting the way he did or he did so just for his own jollies is really beside the point. A professional speaker - especially one who wishes to be invited to partake in discussion on politics and national affairs in public places - has to have a firmer grip on giving a presentation than to fly off the handle like Warrior did here.
Although a lecturer/speaker, Warrior IS being paid to perform when he does these events, and such performers should be able to withstand the possible hecklers, the protestors, and the occasional obnoxious questions that could occur.
Take a look at what happened this past week with two very conservative individuals who were speaking at events:
Pat Buchanan had salad dressing poured over his head at an event. His response was to merely cut short the Q&A portion of his speaking engagement by joking that he "now has to wash his hair." No recriminations, no verbal abuse, no angry letters to the world at large afterwards. He didn't even press felony charges against the person who did it.
William Kristol, of The Weekly Standard, got hit with a pie during a speech he made at a college on March 30. He just wiped off the pie, make a joke out of it, and not only continued on with his speech but did a Q&A afterwards.
Both men knew that a verbal or physical confrontation would resolve nothing. In fact, it only would have flared up trouble and possible turn the audience against them. Instead, they handle their individuals situations with humor and grace, showing themselves to be the better person in each case.
And Warrior? He was in over his head and he blew it, being completely unprofessional and obviously unprepared to face negative responses from the audience. He not only managed to turn an audience against him, but embarassed the people who brought him in to speak as well as the college. THEN he laid the blame at their feets for his failings. While some Warrior fans have been trying to defend him, it is clear that the majority of people attended were offended.
A Buchanan could have turned it around. Heck, even Bradshaw probably would have been able to turn it around. Warrior failed. Pure and simple. He'll never admit it, which makes the whole thing even sadder.
For those having trouble with bit torrent, I recommend Azureus. So simple a computer tard like me can use it.
Also, if we can get our upload area to work I have some clips that will be linked from THIS POST later today, for those who don't want to sit through the boring stuff and just see the trouble spots.
EDIT: Video clips now up. "Queering doesn't make the world work," "Kick away your tin can," "Can't hear you with that object in your mouth," and a funny exchange where a girl asked what the difference between liberalism and conservatism is and she answers with pretty much the exactly right answer. He still berates her.
(edited by Barbwire Mike on 8.4.05 0914) Lethalwrestling.com: If you don't read us, you're probably gay
A BitTorrent piece of advice: no matter what program you choose to use to download torrents (I personally use BitTornado), you may have to configure your router to open certain ports if you are running a firewall.
Also, it seems that Warrior's supporters sound just like he does: " You parcel your insults of Warrior in beautiful verbiose....nonetheless they are repugnant to me and a stench in my nostrals you, and the rest of you ilk like liberals. Nonetheless it is my belief you are licking your wounds from philosophical beating you took....at the hands of Warrior. Now let it be said Warrior accomplished his mission, and you fools did not!! SHIT...TRUTH CAME OUT....did you think you could beat Warrior....HOW DID YOU UNDER-ESTIMATE HIM SO BADLY!!?? Better ways to handle it....no this is an ideological battle for the meaning/future of America....and I've got my two caulloused knuckle fists up at the computer screen right now. It's gonna get ugly."
Yes to be fair, the Warrior is both a deluded manical has-been and a publicity hoar. Did these people expect him to stand up there and sing America the Beatuiful? Not to take away from the fact that hes a racist, homophobic idiot, but I was just wondering.
True intelligence is the ability to admit you know nothing.