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redsoxnation
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#1 Posted on
Since a lot of people weren't around for the days of Jim Crockett Promotions or fans of WCW, here is a brief description of what Wargames: The Match Beyond is.
First, it was the one and only good idea developed by Dusty Rhodes (personally, I think Splotch thought of it, and Dusty stole credit for it.)
Wargames is two rings surrounded by steel cage and has a roof. It involves either teams of 4 or 5, 5 in the first year of Wargames, 4 in subsequent years (I don't count the bastardazation that was 1998 as a true Wargames). The goal of Wargames is simple, victory can be achieved through surrender or submission.
The match begins with one man from each team facing each other for five minutes. After that, at two minute intervals, an additional participant enters. To determine which team will have the extra participant in the ring for the two minute intervals, a coin toss is used (By some happenstance, the heels always win the coin toss. This has caused people to believe that the coin toss is rigged). During this period of Wargames, the match cannot end. Theoretically, a guy could get decapitated, and the match would have to continue.
Once all the men have entered the ring, The Match Beyond begins. It is during this segment that surrender or submission can occur.
When booked properly, Wargames is a bloodbath match that blows off feuds. Injuries are very possible in Wargames; especially with an oaf like Sid involved, as Brian Pillman was almost killed by Sid powerbombs in Wargames '91.
The best Wargames have been the Original from 1987 Great American Bash (which, since it was a month long tour, had two Wargames matches, and that was the year with 5 participants.) Wargames '91 was excellent, as the Horsemen rode again. And Wargames '92 was a classic, beginning the demise of the Dangerous Alliance.
Avoid viewing any Wargame with Hulk Hogan though, as only 1996 was a good Wargames involving Hogan, and that was because it was the match that began the Sting angle that propelled WCW to the top of wrestling.
Maybe it wasn't brief, but that is an overview of the best gimmick match that has stood the test of time.
Edit: How could I ever forget 1993 and Shockmaster. Good old Fred was a slight step down in quality from the previous 2 years participants, wasn't he?

(edited by redsoxnation on 30.10.02 2214)


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#2 Posted on
Gotta agree here, an Bash 87 is still up there with faveorite PPV's ever
Find it if you can, the wargames matches (2 of em) are classics, with the horsemen + Dillon Vs (lets see if my memory is up to par) Roadwarriors Ellering Dusty and Nikita.

GREAT matches, i still vividly remember Nikita No-Selling a piledriver (or perhaps it was a road warrior).

Great great stuff, never repeated.
redsoxnation
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#3 Posted on
Horsemen plus Dillon was the first Wargames. The second was Horesmen plus War Machine, subbing for an injured James Julius Caesar Dillon.



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Since: 23.10.02
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#4 Posted on
I was fortunate enough to be in the Omni in Atlanta to witness the very first WarGames match (It was a gift for my 12th birthday). It is, and probably will always be, the best live wrestling event I've ever seen (a great Rock & Roll Express vs. Midnight Express match was also on the card that night). The WarGames match was great from start to finish. I still list that match as my 2nd favorite match of all time (right behind the Magnum TA vs. Tully Blanchard "I Quit" cage match from Starrcade '85).


Galidor, I think it was Nikita Koloff that no sold the pile driver. Nikita was wearing a neck collar around that time because of an angle where his neck was injured by a Dick Murdock brainbuster on the concrete floor. A week or so after the Wargames match, Nikita's "neck injury" (supposedly worsened by the WarGames match) was a part of the storyline that led to Lex Luger beating Nikita in a cage match for the U.S. Title.


Damn, I miss those Great American Bash tours. It was like a month worth of PPV matches in every city they went to.
shea
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#5 Posted on
In the Fall of 1987, the NWA put on a show in Nassau Coliseum (their first show in the NYC area in, like, forever) and a slapdash War Games match was on the card.

I can't recall everything, but the heels were Arn&Tully, Midnight Express and somebody, faces were Ronnie & Jimmy Garvin, Dusty, and two other guys.

... which proved that the format of the match is such a brilliant concept, it pretty much works no matter who the teams are.

Rudoublesedoublel
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#6 Posted on
My favorite WarGames tradition always (it seemed) happened the Saturday night before the match. One of the faces would be ambushed by the heels and "seriously injured", then would do whatever he could to be the first (or second) face in the actual WarGames match. I believe I remember Pilman doing that and I also believe I remember Dustin doing the same thing. It always added heat to the match. Of course, it also added the thought "That's stupid, if I was hurt that bad I would be the last guy in to give my team the better chance of winning."

The double ring concept was cool because prior to the main event, some matches would use the extra ring (at least I think I remember Sting utilizing the extra ring once).
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#7 Posted on
I forgot about that, thanks for reminding me, Redsoxnation. I actually got a tape of the Bash from '87 (my brother is really into Jim Crockett Promotions, and he got that tape from a friend, pretty good condition), and I totally forgot it had the Wargames on it. Well, I'll go back and look at it again and kick myself in the ass for not going to SurSer in person this year (Damn bills!)

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#8 Posted on

    Originally posted by Rudoublesedoublel
    The double ring concept was cool because prior to the main event, some matches would use the extra ring (at least I think I remember Sting utilizing the extra ring once).


You're thinking of Sting vs. Muta for the TV Title, sometime late 1988 (or early 1989).

The double rings for that show were used for a battle royal, though, not a War Games match.

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#9 Posted on
Having the double rings present during the undercard always bothered me, from an aesthetic view point.

It just didn't seem right to have that extra ring there during a singles match...



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sting vs muta was great amercian bash 89 and the ring was used for the opening match battle royal but there was also a war games match that night i beive between midnihgt express road warriors and dr death williams against soman swat team, terry gordy( ithink) and a team that escapes me. ill ahve to check the tape.

realted note is that i loved also how the udercard matches would utalize this, my favorite being rey mistero jr vs super calo form fall brawl 96. greta match with grea enind with rey backflipping in to one ring and picture perfect double spring board hurricanrana. also on that card i think a ddp-chavo jr match started in one ring and ended in the other.




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#11 Posted on
Indeed Bash 89 used two rings for two matches: A two ring "King of the Hill" battle royal, and Wargames (The Road Warriors, The Midnights and Dr. Death vs. The SST and the Freebirds (Hayes, Garvin and Bam Bam)).





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#12 Posted on

    >Galidor, I think it was Nikita Koloff that no sold the pile driver. Nikita was wearing a neck collar around that time because of an angle where his neck was injured by a Dick Murdock brainbuster on the concrete floor. A week or so after the Wargames match, Nikita's "neck injury" (supposedly worsened by the WarGames match) was a part of the storyline that led to Lex Luger beating Nikita in a cage match for the U.S. Title.


    Damn, I miss those Great American Bash tours. It was like a month worth of PPV matches in every city they went to.



I think youre right, and i must say, that Luger/Nikita Match was great, and Nikita sold that chairshot like a champ. I mean, when was the last time you saw a chairshot KILL an opponent, Nikita was definately dead after that vicious shot from luger, i still see luger picking up the dead weight Nikita, draping his arms over the top rope, so he could Rack him.

Ahh the glory days of wrestling.
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#13 Posted on
I recommend WarGames '94 at Fall Brawl for one reason in particular, despite mixed reviews the match gets:

Terry Funk's antics. The way he takes bumps and interacts with the other wrestlers will give you a pretty hearty laugh!





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#14 Posted on
Wargames '89 is worth it just for Michael Hayes' reactions the entire match. After every interval, he talks to the cameraman, saying he's next. Of course, he never goes in. Finally, before the last interval he has this exchange with Paul. E. Dangerously:

Hayes: So I have to go in?
Paul E: Yeah
Hayes: Damn.
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