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Now, as soon as someone figures out that beer, marijuana and red meat are healthy, I think we're pretty much set.



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#2 Posted on
    Originally posted by OlFuzzyBastard
    Now, as soon as someone figures out that beer, marijuana and red meat are healthy, I think we're pretty much set.


Haha a perfect world eh? Actually, just to sidebar for a second, there are plenty of studies that say any type of alcoholic beverage can actually improve your health in moderation, and if you cook with marijuana, it eliminates almost all of the health risks, as there's no lung damage in weed food. Red meat I cannot help you with, however. But I digress... =)

Sadly (sadly for ME, I should say), I don't have much hope in the youth to take this news the right way. I'm afraid kids are gonna think these kinds of games are good for you in a different way as well. I wonder how many kids will play more games now so they can have better perception skills, and how many will play more because they have an excuse to enjoy violence. What I'm trying to say is sort of a "Violence = Good For You" type of philosophy. I would hope it's not the case.


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I would be greatly stunned if any child ANYWHERE picks up a violent game and says "Hey, this game looks really cool, because it'll improve my perception skills." It's a welcome side effect, not a selling point.



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    Originally posted by vsp
    I would be greatly stunned if any child ANYWHERE picks up a violent game and says "Hey, this game looks really cool, because it'll improve my perception skills." It's a welcome side effect, not a selling point.

Kinda like how the Carmen Sandiego games were just fun to play, not because you were learnin geography.



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#5 Posted on

    Originally posted by Grimis

      Originally posted by vsp
      I would be greatly stunned if any child ANYWHERE picks up a violent game and says "Hey, this game looks really cool, because it'll improve my perception skills." It's a welcome side effect, not a selling point.

    Kinda like how the Carmen Sandiego games were just fun to play, not because you were learnin geography.


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#6 Posted on

    Originally posted by FurryHippie
    I don't have much hope in the youth to take this news the right way. I'm afraid kids are gonna think these kinds of games are good for you in a different way as well. I wonder how many kids will play more games now so they can have better perception skills, and how many will play more because they have an excuse to enjoy violence. What I'm trying to say is sort of a "Violence = Good For You" type of philosophy. I would hope it's not the case.


    (edited by FurryHippie on 29.5.03 0909)



I don't think so, because it won't be long before people realize that it is not actual violence that causes the visual improvement, but rather playing this kind of first-person-"shooter" type engine that does it. (I'm assuming, of course.)

Hence, games will be developed that use the same kind of engine but have no violence. They will most likely be specifically marketed as "games that will promote visual skills," they will be put in the "educational" section, and therefore these will be the games people think of as improving visual skills, not games like Medal of Honor or other violent games.

edit: I'm bad at quotes.

(edited by Vega14k on 29.5.03 2247)


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Somehow, I very seriously doubt that improving visual acuity is ever going to be a major selling point for a video game. Can't imagine picking up a PS2 game and seeing “Helps Improve Visual Attention!” on the box. That would actually freak me out, to be honest.

Being an entertainment medium, the #1 selling point for any video game (or movie, for that matter) is how fun the game is, not what skills it'll teach you. (Carmen Sandiego was a great educational game, but hey... it was also massively fun to play, too! That's why it sold so well, because kids asked for it by name.) Besides, I hardly think that improving visual attention really qualifies a game as an “educational” game, especially because “they don't translate to reading, writing and mathematics”, or make a marked difference in one's I.Q. score.

It's just a nice side effect, that's all. And it's been known for years that video games also improve hand-eye coordination. I've played video games for sixteen years,(shooters for about half that long) and I think I've developed all of the skills that the people in the study do. Hey, video games can be good for you after all!



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Eh, I was misunderstood. I just meant that I hope the kids don't take this new news as something to use for the argument "Mom, it's not violence - they say it's GOOD for me". Not like the kid would be buying it for the visual perception stuff, but that he would use excuses to be OK with violence.



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#9 Posted on
hmm..those games improve your visual perception while
damaging your eyes at the same time, considering how
many endless hours people play these in one session






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