"I just got a call from Mike Johnson, who is at the Smackdown taping in NY. He informed me that after an angle with Vince McMahon and Zach Gowen, Vince was mocking Zach by walking around with his cane in the ring. Vince then threw the cane and it accidentally hit a girl in the front row. The girl was struck in the face and was upset and crying. Vince went over to check on her after they went to a break and eventually her and her boyfriend were taken to the back. Mike and Buck are at the show and will have a full report later tonight."
First off, I feel bad for the girl. But I would love to see this, Vince acting all cocky and then he injures someone. I hope someone puts this on KaZaA or something.
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I can get it up right after the show if you want, but I doubt you'll ever see the cane exit the ring. It'll probably be a close-up of Vince, he'll just throw it "away" and once it's off camera you'll never see anything again. They certainly won't show the girl getting hit.
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Originally posted by fuelinjectedI can see Vince in court defending himself, "But your honor, we were doing this angle where I was mocking a cripple and it was an accident."
I'll second that prediction. This angle has gotten so horrible that if you try to explain to anyone who's never seen wrestling before, you'd come out looking horribly embarrassed. And if this is the only defense Vince can come up with in court (assuming it comes to that), then I can only imagine the looks he'll get from the judge.
Yeah, it's all fun and games until Vince McMahon puts an eye out with a one-legged man's cane.
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I was there...When Vince beaned the girl in the front row with the cane. He was swinging it around like a maniac and it probably slipped out of his hand. It really nailed that girl though. We started a lawsuit chant.
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Well, if this girl loses an eye, she'd be the perfect tag partner for Gowan. [/tastelessness]
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Please, this'll never make it to court. Once she got backstage, Vince probably had every wrestler parade past her and take pictures with her. THEN he whipped out his wallet and cut her a check right there on the spot.
Actually, there can be no lawsuit. Next time you're at an arena venue, read the back of your ticket. There's a little waiver there that exempts the venue and the promoter from liability from anything that happens to you while you're there. My brother was hit in the head by a hockey puck once, same deal.
Originally posted by Tenken347Actually, there can be no lawsuit. Next time you're at an arena venue, read the back of your ticket. There's a little waiver there that exempts the venue and the promoter from liability from anything that happens to you while you're there. My brother was hit in the head by a hockey puck once, same deal.
That, however, has not stopped others from suing(and winning) lawsuits against hockey teams, baseball teams, etc.
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Okay, how much can a friggin' cane hurt? You swing it at full force in my face and the worst it'll do is sting for a little while and maybe leave a mark. And this girl was crying? Vince should have stayed in character and pointed a finger in her face and told her to "suck it up."
I think it probably had to do with the reasonability of what happened at the arena. I mean, you go to a sporting event or a wrestling show, and there's going to be a fair chance of something flying into the crowd and maybe hitting someone. That's what the waiver's for, especially if it's a provable accident. If a wrestler comes out into the crowd and breaks a guy's arm because he was heckling him, then maybe you have grounds for a lawsuit. In this particular case, I'd say the waiver would hold up in court just fine.
My buddy DJ said: .....THEN he whipped out his wallet and cut her a check right there on the spot.
I kinda doubt that, dude - correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't fans in the first few rows warned before events start that there could be very large people flying into your seat at come course during the show, so pay attention? Or perhaps something to that effect is written on the fine print of the tickets? Either way, there's NO WAY that WWE is going to leave themselves that liable - no way in hell.
I think instead of assuming Vince was sucking up to the hurt fan to avoid a lawsuit, I think he should be commended for taking the time to make sure she was OK - sure, maybe it was in his best interests to do so, but to just assume that he did it to save his ass is a bit unfair, I think. Vince may be a harsh businessman at times, but I don't think he's an all-out asshole.
Originally posted by The GoonOkay, how much can a friggin' cane hurt? You swing it at full force in my face and the worst it'll do is sting for a little while and maybe leave a mark. And this girl was crying? Vince should have stayed in character and pointed a finger in her face and told her to "suck it up."
Ok..a toughened Goon like you will suck it up. But I say getting hit in the face with a hard wooden cane could hurt. Especially if VInce has been swinging it around for a bit, adding speed (thus force) and all that.. Add to that this is a young unsuspecting woman, not some hulking wrestler or goon who would grin and ask for another.
Vince probably went to the girl out of genuine concern and then took her (and the family) to the back to compensate.. and who knows..maybe a doctor had a look at her.
Before the idea of a lawsuit is dismissed as having very little chance for success, remember this occurred in New York, where the court system stated Spike Lee had a case against Spike TV. Get the right (or wrong from Vince's perspective) judge, and this could be very interesting.
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Would pay good money to see McMahon take the witness stand on this one:
Attorney: Vince McMahon, where... McMahon: Uh, that's Mr. McMahon to you, pal. Attorney: Okay... Mister McMahon... Where were you on the evening of June 24th? McMahon: I was minding my own business, dammit! That one-legged freak Zack Gowan and (sneers) Mr. America are ruining my company. Attorney: Ooookay. So, getting back to my questions... you DIDN'T throw a cane into the audience? McMahon: Dammit... what the hell do you want from me? Attorney: I want the truth. McMahon: YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH. YOU PEOPLE NEED SOMEONE LIKE ME PROTECTING YOU AGAINST PEOPLE LIKE (sneers) MR. AMERICA! Attorney: Did you... or did you not... throw a wooden cane into the audience? McMahon: YOU'RE.... FIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRED!! Attorney: Uh... you can't fire me. McMahon: Damn you, Mr. America! Judge: Mr. McMahon, I'm going to ask you one more time to cooperate... McMahon: You think you can beat me? No way, pal. Mr. McMahon ALWAYS WINS!!!
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