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#21 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05
also, i've noticed that the 2 rampages i found [one was on the beach] were MUCH easier than GTA:3






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i had to run over some gang members, 40 in 90 seconds, there even was a parked car near by, took it, and the gang members were respanwing like crazy, so there was no problem finding them. they even stood in groups of 6 to mow down to make it easier




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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.95
Okay, I haven't really gotten into it yet, but this game kicks all kinds of booty. The only problem I have so far is that when I try to run, the character pauses for a split second before taking off. I need that split second, especially with these tough cops! Man, have they improved the police AI from GTA3!



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#23 Posted on
I think the split second before you can run is just a way to help the police. No longer can you tug on the drivers side door, wait for him to get out, run to the passenger side, and take his car. Busted every time in this game.



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Since: 22.1.02
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#24 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.95
Best way to take a cop car - hit it head on, wait for the cop to jump out and run around the opposite side and get in through the passenger door.

Works every time (at least in GTA3)



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#25 Posted on
I wouldn't say the cops are THAT much smarter (though I haven't been above a three-star alert yet). I'm having just as easy a time evading them on the roads, and they don't seem as accurate (IMHO) with their gunfire when I'm zigzagging away on foot.

Then there was a priceless moment when I was robbing the Dispensary. Somehow, I got a one-star rating before I even entered the building, so a cop followed me into the shop unbeknownst to me. He stood in the doorway while I went around to the other side of the counter, pulled my gun on the cashier, and watched the money pile up -- only THEN realizing that the cop was standing there, watching it all happen.

A quick diagram:

Me Cashier Cop
_______ |_
* x | @

He was talking the whole while ("Aw, don't make me run..." and such), but waited patiently at the door without shooting, running towards me or doing anything offensive. I waited for him to react, then grabbed the money and RAN RIGHT PAST HIM (STILL no reaction), dove into my waiting Banshee and laughed all the way to the Pay & Spray.

The SWAT teams at higher wanted levels don't sound like fun, however, and the spike strips can be quite annoying.



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#26 Posted on
Youree Dell Harris as the leader of the Haitian gang. Priceless casting.

(She's better known as Miss Cleo)

Just don't drive into the sun. Yowza.



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#27 Posted on
For those wondering, here's the list of voice talent for the main cast of Vice City, straight from the manual, along with their purpose in the game (again, from the manual):

Tommy Vercetti - Ray Liotta - the infamous YOU.
Ken Rosenberg - Bill Fichtner - a lawyer taking some of the heat for a botched drug deal by you.
Sonny Forelli - Tom Sizemore - you owe him money for said botched deal.
Steve Scott - Dennis Hopper - studio chief of InterGlobal Films, specializing in adult films.
Avery Carrington - Burt Reynolds - a loud Texan interested in real estate
Ricardo Diaz - Luis Guzman - Cuban crimelord.
Lance Vance - Philip Michael Thomas - your sidekick.
Colonel Juan Cortez - Robert Davi - another crime boss
Umberto Robina - Danny Trejo - runs a cafe in Little Havana
Phil Cassidy - Gary Busey - runs Phil's Place, a heavy-duty weaponry shop in Little Haiti.
Mitch Baker - Lee Majors - a tough biker, and a regular at the Greasy Chopper.
Mercedes Cortez - Fairuza Balk - Cortez' girl.
Kent Paul - Danny Dyer
Jezz Torrent - Kevin McKidd - main man of the rock band Love Fist.
Taxi Controller - Deborah Harry
Candy Suxxx - Jenna Jameson - veteran adult film starlet.
BJ Smith - Lawrence Taylor - former football player, now a car dealer.
Auntie Poulet - Youree Cleomill Harris - as mentioned, leader of the Haitians.

Jenna as a porn starlet, Lawrence Taylor as a football player and Philip Michael Thomas as a witty sidekick. Boy, there's some stretches there.
Mike



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#28 Posted on
Forgot about Trejo. That guy is five kinds of bad news.

Armed robbery, big bad tattoos, jaunts through some of the best places our country has to offer (Folsom, San Quentin, Susanville). Prison boxing champion. He was that rapist with all the ink in "Con Air".

And Uncle Machete in the Spy Kids movies. He's so cool.



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#29 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.95
Trejo looks like he'd be a bad dude in real life. Lucky for him he's friends with Robert Rodriguez.



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#30 Posted on
I cannot wait for Thursday. I get paid (over 300 bones), and subsequently shall purchase Vice City AND Spider-Man on DVD. And then, I shall weep to myself with great joy, for I shall be the happiest man in the world.

Also, I've been playing GTA 3 a bit to hone my skillz...it still rules. God, I love PS2.



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#31 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05
i still think it's funny having Ms. Cleo as leader of the hatians...




I missed Raw, but I heard it rhymed with ass. I missed Smackdown too. It made me all shades of ambivalence. WWE is starting to suck again. The crops?
Jeezum Spice! Someone stole my crops. What in the ham fat is going on. That's just poo-doo!
That's just my 2.4856 Yen.
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#32 Posted on
The police AI has improved somewhat, in my humble opinion, but has also kind of stayed the same.

In the Vigilante missions - (I am trying to get to Level 12) the police HAVE to be the most annoying part of the game. If you do as much as doing the driveby on the cars (which is customary since GTA3) to slow them down, you will get a wanted star of one. This has the bonus of no random Police Car respawnage, but what it does have is loads of randomly spawned cops that are out to get you in all the wrong places (i.e. when you are parked, making swiss cheese out of an ugly Hermes until the cop comes and tosses you out of the car because it's door always gets broken off). This of course BUSTS you and makes me lose the 2500-odd 9mm bullets I use - I cannot bear it so I load the game.

However, if you decide to continue to play the vigilante mission by killing the cop with the uzi then you will get TWO wanted stars. In GTA3, this was nothing. I ate two wanted stars with my Special - K each morning. But now, they fling more cops at you then is humane, so you are stuck doing a) going to a place where clothes are available (there are a few after you do a small amount of missions) or b) finding a wanted star or c) Ignoring the cops. Choice A and Choice B are the most suitable, however, they whittle away at your time and this does not help matters one bit, especially if you have two or more enemy criminals to contend with. I must add also that I have a very poor sense of direction in vice city and I cannot remember the subtle nuances of the city where clothes are being locked away or those police bribes are being held. So I usually go back to the only places that I know where they are (the list is growing, slowly but painfully) and get it, but by that time (especially if I am in the north) I lose a couple of minutes, but YAY those damn cops are off me. Of course, if you do one thing wrong, i.e. wanting to STOP the ACTUAL CRIMINALS of Vice City, those tan-clad sows will come and drag you out of your car. Sometimes, the Wanted Level rises unexplainedly! Three Stars is not uncommon for this, and it is "great fun" when 9mm Wielding Cheeta Riding "Agents" come flying at you, along with a plethora of random beach pigs, a helicopter, and SWAT teams dropping from them. All this to get the reward from doing the Level 12 of the vigilante missions! I have done FAR over 200 missions in this feeble quest. This is difficult. I want to stop, but I can't because it is so fun(ny)! It has replay value, no matter how bittersweet, and it always gives me a chuckle when homosexual men on rollerblades weilding assult rifles exit twin MoonBeams and fire at me, only be expoloded by some random cop car that bumped into ME GODDAMNIT!! I swear to all that is honorable that bastard bumped into ME and I was at level 10!!! Maybe I suck, but the system is against me!

Oh yeah, the rampages are easy, though. Easier, anyways. There are a lot around, but the fun ones involve assult rifles. I have somewhere around 15 done in the first island. Not much, because it drives me insane looking for things, so I decided to take a quicker route to insanity by doing the Vigilante missions. I did the Taxi, Pizza, and Fire missions and got BOOST JUMPER~! with taxis and 150 health and FIREPROOF so those stray molotovs don't hurt me, no sir! But I didn't do much else. Also got the body armor. I think I am a little behind, but oh well.



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#33 Posted on
Well, now I wish I had preordered.

Hopefully there will be more copies by Christmas.



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Zeruel
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#34 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05

    Originally posted by Y2Disco
    Well, now I wish I had preordered.

    Hopefully there will be more copies by Christmas.



we ordered 10 for our video store for rentals, we under ordered GTA III and missed out on all those people who didn't pre-order and wanted to rent

and yes, all 10 are rented, and i have one of them. boy do i love free rentals for employees




I missed Raw, but I heard it rhymed with ass. I missed Smackdown too. It made me all shades of ambivalence. WWE is starting to suck again. The crops?
Jeezum Spice! Someone stole my crops. What in the ham fat is going on. That's just poo-doo!
That's just my 2.4856 Yen.
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#35 Posted on
Heh, I walked into WalMart Friday night & picked up a copy no problem. They still had like 7 in the video game display cabinet after I got mine.



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#36 Posted on

    Originally posted by Spaceman Spiff
    Heh, I walked into WalMart Friday night & picked up a copy no problem. They still had like 7 in the video game display cabinet after I got mine.


Yeah, I was in Electronics Botique the other day, and saw they had copies behind the counter. I decided not to purchase one due to my limited funds, the long line, and my assumption that they were all for preorders. I'll just wait until Christmas so I won't have to pay. ;)



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#37 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.52
Anyone notice that I haven't been posting all that much in the past week? (“No, actually, although it was a lot quieter around here.”) Ha ha. For those of you who did notice, it was because I've been spending most of my free time since Tuesday playing Vice City.

If you own a PS2, you owe it to yourself to buy Vice City. GTA3 rocked my world, but GTAVC has practically taken over my life. (Figuratively speaking, that is.)

I've played over 24 hours already, and while I won't spoil the game for anyone, I'll tell you this much. Once you start establishing your own crime syndicate, the game takes on a whole new dimension.

Tommy Vercetti, by the way, is just fucking cool.



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#38 Posted on
Can I be the voice of discenting opinion?

I've played it.

Eh. It was fun. I played for four hours at one sitting and haven't picked it up since. Those were a fun four hours, but I haven't been compelled to play again. I'm sure I will given time, but it just doesn't seem likely any time soon. I don't know. I'm just not feeling the "Magic" the rest of you are feeling. Honestly, I guess I just didn't get caught up in the hype and now I'm not caught up in the game. I'm just looking forward to when I can buy SD4.

My honest opinion to all you gamers out there:

If you're looking for GTA3-2, pick it up.
If you really loved the first one, pick it up.
If you kinda liked the first one, pick it up.
If you didn't like the first one, don't bother.

It's not really different enough from the first one to convert any non-fans, unless you're a total '80s freak. As for why I'm apathetic, overall it's a long story but:

A. I'm sick of the first one

and

B. Running pedestrians over to the sounds of Foriegner was fun the first like 20 times, but it's kind of gotten old.

The story mode is fun, I'll have to try to get back into it for that, but alot of this stuff seems very familiar (as in from the last game) and very repetative (as in there's a good variety in the missions but alot of them have you doing very much the same things).

I don't know. Thumbs mildly up?

Not much of a dissenting opinion I know, but just letting everyone know that at least one person doesn't think it's God's gift to gaming.

(P.S. Please don't run me over in your stolen delivery truck. Thank you.)




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#39 Posted on

    Originally posted by Excalibur05
    My honest opinion to all you gamers out there:

    If you're looking for GTA3-2, pick it up.
    If you really loved the first one, pick it up.
    If you kinda liked the first one, pick it up.
    If you didn't like the first one, don't bother.
    It's not really different enough from the first one to convert any non-fans, unless you're a total '80s freak.



(first == previous (GTA3), not GTA1 -- but that's me nitpicking)

Hey, it's a fair criticism. Remember that many of the people raving about Vice (like myself) consider GTA3 to be better than anything that's come out SINCE GTA3. Thinking of Vice as GTA 3 1/2 should tell prospective buyers whether it'll be for them or not.

I've found that Vice is similar to GTA3 in that it can be played in a number of ways without losing any appeal. You can plow through the storyline missions rapidly, and have a blast. You can explore the city, looking for secrets and side missions, taking your time about it, and have a blast. You can drive like a mad bastard around town, going for the most ludicrous stunts and vicious wipeouts and replay-worthy moments possible... and have a blast. My wife had lots of fun in GTA3 doing mostly taxi missions, for cryin' out loud. Not many other games work on multiple levels like that.

Some one-week-in reflections:

* The music isn't nearly as obnoxious as I first thought it would be. I avoid Emotion like the plague, but there are songs on all the other stations I can listen to, and the talk stations are good background chatter for longer drives.

* The helicopter ROCKS. It's tricky enough to control that it'll take a little practice, but it's efficient (and a GREAT view of the city) once you've got the hang of it.

* Many of the missions are reminiscent of GTA3 missions, but there's a decent amount of variety once you get past the first handful. The Cubans' and Haitians' side missions had me throwing my controller around in frustration at times, but that's a good thing -- it gave me a sense of achievement when I beat the damned things.

I beat Death Row last night, without going to a strategy guide or FAQ for help. I am very, very proud of myself. (This mission is probably the best concept piece I've seen in the game so far -- one part speed driving, one part timed shootout, one part mad scramble to a destination while trying to keep your car in one piece, with a high degree of difficulty throughout. I got creative to beat it, and bounced up and down on the couch when my strategy worked.)

* The cameo from GTA3's favorite real-estate tycoon had me ROARING.

* They handled building-entry about as well as they could have without radically changing the game engine. The camera goes wonky now and then when you're near an interior wall, but it's stable for the most part, and the missions with interior sections work well.

* I know I'm not the only one who has a compulsion, when presented with a motorcyclist, to see how far my car can launch the poor bastard. (That should be in the Stats screen somewhere -- everything else is.)

* Anyone managed to register a "Two Wheels" stat yet?







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#40 Posted on

    Originally posted by Excalibur05
    Can I be the voice of discenting opinion?


Something tells me that you're a wrestling smart-fan...

*Must... show... disdain... for... popular... trends!*


    Originally posted by Excalibur05
    Honestly, I guess I just didn't get caught up in the hype and now I'm not caught up in the game.


People enjoy this game for reasons other than "Well, everybody else does, so I guess I should too." Some, maybe even most, find the game highly entertaining. Are they right? Who cares!

It has a legitimate following because it's a fun, innovative game. Not because it's riding a trendy wave of popularity.

Hype is for those who need it.


    Originally posted by Excalibur05
    I'm just looking forward to when I can buy SD4.


I was too, then I decided not to fall in for the hype.

    Originally posted by Excalibur05
    Not much of a dissenting opinion I know, but just letting everyone know that at least one person doesn't think it's God's gift to gaming.


You're not kidding. It carries very little weight with me because it seems that you dislike the game because others like it so much.

And I haven't yet heard here that this is "God's gift to gaming". What I have heard is "Wow! This is a kick-ass game!".


    Originally posted by Excalibur05
    (P.S. Please don't run me over in your stolen delivery truck. Thank you.)


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