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Since: 25.6.03
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It looks as though VH1 made their political stance clear during their awards show last night.

Did anyone else watch this? Wow, and I thought CNN hated Bush. The first hour of the show was a virtual Bush bashfest, from Bill Maher giving Natalie Maines a verbal blowjob (she won Biggest Quote of 2003) and her subsequent stand-up routine to the Iraq invasion winning the Biggest Mistake of 2003 and D.L. Hughley doing a mock “drop-in” onstage in a flight suit with a banner that read “Oops” (instead of Mission Accomplished) behind him.

I don’t bring this up to start an argument but rather to gauge opinion on whether anyone else thought this was a little over the top last night. Watching Leno or Letterman rip on the president doesn’t faze me. Neither does Saturday Night Live or any political pundit on some Sunday talk show.

But when an entire network hosts an awards program where an award is given to the prez for a perceived blunder or to someone whose biggest notoriety comes from ripping the prez…. sheesh. Is this too tasteless, or has it become the norm and I’m just overreacting?
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A lot of it has to do with the clientele. When the people being "honored" are entertainers and musicians with leftist political stances, stuff like this is bound to happen.

Is it tasteless? Sure. But that's pop culture for ya...



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All you had to do was see Bill Maher on the marquee to know where that was going. He still blames Bush for getting PI cancelled rather than his own stupid mouth or the fact there were like 20 people still watching.



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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.47
    Originally posted by Grimis
    A lot of it has to do with the clientele. When the people being "honored" are entertainers and musicians with leftist political stances, stuff like this is bound to happen.

    Is it tasteless? Sure. But that's pop culture for ya...


This almost flies...You're leaving out one major part of the equasion...Sponors and the allmighty dollar.

Now if the sponsors are "leftist" then you can almost get away with it, but if the sponsors are not, then the sponsors are assuming that it is ok based on what they think is the pulse of the populace. But moer than likely, a sponsor isn't going to endorse something that would have a bunch of backlash from the populace.

Marketing will win out over political stances anyday.



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We don't receive VH-! because the cable company wont take MTV and I guess its a package. I am tired of entertainers of any stripe feeling the need to help me with my politics. They certainly have the right and God bless them. My problem is with the sheep watching who buy this BS, whether its Chuck Hesston or Tim Robbins.



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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.59
    Originally posted by DrDirt
    We don't receive VH-! because the cable company wont take MTV and I guess its a package.


With what MTV (and to a much lesser extent, VH1) has become, that might be a good thing.



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Threep's got a good point. As vanilla and non-threatening as VH1 has fought to be since day one, they wouldn't have greenlit anything with a viewpoint they thought would have gotten them a lot of flak.

They're apparently counting on the idea that the people who would be outraged by leftovers from a Leno monologue aren't, for the most part, the type of person who watches VH1. The article that the Rev linked to seems to bear that out... the writer was more annoyed by the boredom factor, it seemed, than anything else.



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If there's one thing I hate, it's when Michael Stipe or Bono tell me how to vote.





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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.00
    Originally posted by Nate The Snake
    Threep's got a good point. As vanilla and non-threatening as VH1 has fought to be since day one, they wouldn't have greenlit anything with a viewpoint they thought would have gotten them a lot of flak.




Except that VH1 did the Music Behind Bars series. Which did get alot of flak and they still aired it.

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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.29
    Originally posted by Bullitt
    If there's one thing I hate, it's when Michael Stipe or Bono tell me how to vote.
It's such a shame that people with such moronic politics create such great music...



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