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#1 Posted on
Looks like all the matches are set even though they two more programs before the PPV.
Anyway...here goes...

Stephanie VS Sable- I'll pick Sable just because she's a former wrestler, and I don't know where they would take a Stephanie win. Who really gives a rat's ass anyway?!
Winner- Sable

Vince VS Zach Gowen- Man, they wasted two matches on the card on this stuff. Anyway, look at Vince and look at Gowen. I'm picking Vince, but Gowen will get off a very impressive move, maybe a shooting star(after a multitude of dropkicks, crossbodies, and right hands). There is nobody to help him pick up the W, and who loses to a weakling with one leg?
Winner- Vince

Tag Team Championship- Hmm, this isn't an easy pick. Charlie and Shelton have been involved with the titles for the entire year now, I say they give them up, but there is a ladder match rematch at SS.
Winner-Rey and Billy

U.S. Title- I'm gonna go with Billy Gunn VS Matt Hardy with Billy Gunn picking up the win. But Hey! Nobody post spoilers here concerning the SD! matches until they air! (I hate spoilers, they ruin the point)
Winner- Billy Gunn

Taker VS John Cena- Could they be setting up Cena VS Angle at SS? Looks like it, BUT they won't give Cena another title shot this early, now that he's been shoved outta the picture. Cena has to go over Taker, and Taker is willing to do the job.
Winner- John Cena (via Chain)

WWE Championship- Should be a good match. I don't think Angle is going to win for reasons posted above. My instincts say go with Lesnar, but I'd really like to see the Big Show win. I don't know why, but it's time for a change, and he's really impressed me lately. Maybe something interesting will happen, like Show pinning Angle and getting the win. That'd be cool.
Winner- Big Show


There are my picks. I'm probably all wrong, but that's the fun in it. Please don't post spoilers concerning the US Title tourney. Thanks

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    Vince VS Zach Gowen- Man, they wasted two matches on the card on this stuff. Anyway, look at Vince and look at Gowen. I'm picking Vince, but Gowen will get off a very impressive move, maybe a shooting star(after a multitude of dropkicks, crossbodies, and right hands). There is nobody to help him pick up the W, and who loses to a weakling with one leg?
    Winner- Vince



I really think Zach has to win here. If even Vince won't lay down for him, who would expect any wrestler on the roster to?




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    Originally posted by TheMASKEDComputerGeek

      Originally posted by kgriffey79
      Looks like all the matches are set even though they two more programs before the PPV.
      U.S. Title- I'm gonna go with Billy Gunn VS Matt Hardy with Billy Gunn picking up the win. But Hey! Nobody post spoilers here concerning the SD! matches until they air! (I hate spoilers, they ruin the point)






    THEN WHY DIDNT YOU WAIT ONE DAY TO POST THIS THREAD.



Gee man, chill out, he wanted to post so he did.

Stephanie vs. Sable - Steph wins, she's a McMahon

Gowen vs. Vince - Gowen HAS to win, that's the only reason you bring in a one legged wrestler is so that he can win, especially against the evil boss.

Tag titles - I say Benjamin and Haas keep tht tag titles. Mysterio has the cruiserweight title to defend and Kidman and Mysterio are probably going to be wrestling against each other soon anyway.

US Title - My guess is that it's Matt vs. Eddie with Eddie winning the US Title for now, but Matt winning it eventually.

Cena vs. Undertaker - I say John Cena wins

Championship match - Lesnar

Also I say they add another match, maybe Noble vs. Billy or Benoit vs. Rhyno.



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PREDICTIONS

Stephanie McMahon VS Sable
Two former Women's Champions COLLIDE. Seeing as Stephanie used to be able to work (her feud/matches with Trish a year or 2 ago), and Sable never could work...this'll be a trainwreck.
WINNER: Stephanie McMahon; She's the boss' daughter, she has the book, and she can actually wrestle.

Vince McMahon vs. Zach Gowen
Why God, Why? It's former WWF Champion Vincent Kennedy McMahon wrestling a one-legged man. I'll go against my gut and say Zach wins via a miracle of some sort.
WINNER: Zach Gowen

TAG TITLES: Haas & Benjamin vs. Mysterio & Kidman
Current WWE Tag Champs against the former WCW Tag Champs. Seems like they're gonna eventually segue into a Rey/Kidman feud, so I say they get the straps.
WINNERS and NEW CHAMPIONS: Rey Mysterio & Billy Kidman

US TITLE: The Final Four
Check SmackDown spoilers on the board for the final two, I go with Chris Benoit for the win, because Benoit IZ GOD.
WINNER and NEW CHAMPION: Chris Benoit

The Undertaker vs. John Cena
Cena. He needs to win.
WINNER: John Cena

WWE TITLE: Brock Lesnar vs. Big Show vs. Kurt Angle
Big Show won't win. I say they tease the MegaPowers superfeud betwix Lesnar & Angle with Angle beating Show but Lesnar shoving him out and pinning Show to retain.
WINNER and STILL CHAMPION: Brock Lesnar






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where are the predictions for APA bar room brawl? C'mon guys, this is like the first APA bar brawl in like 2 years, where's the love?

Anyway, too much sportz entertainment not enough wrestling on this card. what it really needs is a cruiserweight match, how about Ultimo Dragon vs. Tajiri? No. Ultimo Dragon vs. Matt Hardy maybe?




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#11 Posted on
Here goes nothing (oh, wait - `nothing' is about two weeks from now....)


Steph vs Sable - seeing as Sable is on the poster for SummerSlam, I have a funny feeling they want to push her. The only McMahon who's unbeatable is Vince, bringing us to..

Vince vs Zack - I still saw Gowen will win. If he doesn't, how on earth can they continuing pushing this guy to the moon? And even if he does win... ehhh. Not looking forward to this one in the least.

Bar room brawl -- who the hell cares?

Benjamin & Haas vs Rey & Kidman - Should be interesting from a wrestling standpoint, but other than Kidman turning on Rey Rey, why exactly are they doing this match? I say Benjamin & Haas retain.

Undertaker vs Cena - Will Taker job, or won't he? I say he will, as long as there's some kind of screwy ending. Paging Nathan Jones...

US title final -- I'm not comment on this one because I have read the spoilers already. Let me just say this is the only match that I'd want to see on the entire card. It will probably be the first time in 3 odd years that I've intentionally skipped a WWE PPV.

Brock vs Show vs Angle - You have to assume Brock is still getting the push here; it's too soon for Angle to regain the gold, and the world would just shit on another Big Show reign (though I think he's been doing fantastic stuff lately).



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#12 Posted on
Oh for Christ sakes!!!

The final is Eddie vs. Benoit!!!


And Eddie will take this one...



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#13 Posted on
Tag Titles match:
That should be a great but meaningless match with Team Angle going over and nothing else happening at all.

Vince vs Zach:
Screw it, I'm gonna be watching just in the hope of seeing some juicy crippled blown spots.

Nipple H vs Sable:
As with the previous match, the real winners will be Ron Killings, BG James and Konnan

Taker vs Cena:
Doesn't matter who wins or loses, the issue here is that Taker can make or break Cena in this match no matter what the final outcome. I personally would love to see Nathan Jones lay them both out with a tree trunk after the match and scream until the veins in his head start to pop, but I'm weird.

APA Brawl:
The match is stopped after Bradshaw is tripped by Kanyon, tearing his quad. Oh please God. Oh yeah, and Stevie Richards invades the SD PPV and lays out everyone on the roster with a steel chair.

US Title math:
***(SPOILER WARNING)*****
All things being equal, I'd prefer to see Eddie get the win at Vengeance. However, we would then run the risk of Eddie feuding over the title with Billy Gunn. Plus it'd be nice to see Tajiri show up to even the score a little. So I hope Benoit takes the belt and with luck we'll be treated to an extended Matt/Benoit feud and Billy Gunn will slip in the shower on a bar of soap and die.

WWE Title match:
Filler PPV main event. Brock retains. Should a decent match. Nothing of note will happen.



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#14 Posted on
Oh, okay, I'll throw my hat in since I'm in a better mood...

Tag titles match - There's a tag titles match? I must've missed that. Who are the champs again? Well whoever they are, they win.

Steph/Sable - Sable. Why? Because that way we could get a rematch at Summerslam! Yay! But seriously, I pick Sable because the other night I saw her on Wrestlemania 15 when she was the women's champ. I think I saw Sabs (pronounced SAYBS) pull out twice as many moves than I remember seeing with Steph. Whatever, let the old ho (all due respect, it's just my inner cynic) win just this once...

Vince/Zach - Uh... my head hurts, moving on...

Taker/Cena - Why can't it be Angle/Cena?! Uh... The old guy, I guess.

APA Brawl - Let's all grab a beer. NEXT!

US Title Finals - This should've gotten way more hype than what we got. But the match should be good, but the "What could've been" will he hanging in the air.

WWE Title match - I don't know why I'm not into the PPV, I guess real life has something to do with that. Okay, Lesnar.

Wow, what a line up. Considering this is Smackdown's first PPV, you think they'd really load up the card. I don't see Spanky or Jamie Noble, do you? Oh well.

(edited by Ringmistress on 17.7.03 0910)


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#15 Posted on
OK I'll preface this by saying that I cant understand for the life of me how given twice the time to build for the ppv Smackdown came up with a MUCH less interesting card than RAW achieved for Bad Blood. But I digress....

Sable/Steph: One for the purists. Sable.

Vince/Zac: If they have any long term plans for Zac then he should probably win, unless he loses to set up a rematch. I can only miagine the excitement that would generate round these parts

Tag match: Team Angle retain after Kidman screws up.

APA Brawl: Next

Cena/Taker: Can't think of anyone who'd interfere on Cenas behalf so I'd fancy Taker here.

US title match: Hopefully Matt, probably Eddie.

WWE Title match: Can't see Show doing anything other than get pinned here. I'll take Lesnar to win leading to uber-feud with face Angle.


(edited by dMr on 17.7.03 1721)


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#16 Posted on
Undertaker will NOT lose.

Where's Funaki?

APA-- big funkin woop.

more McMahons, yay.

Eddy/Benoit won't even go 15.

Please change Aangle's character.

Where's version 1?

Boy, I feel sorry for those people in Denver. They're gonna get jipped.



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Yeah, I can't for the life of me understand why Matt Hardy isn't on the card ... this guy has to be the most improved guy on the whole f'n WWE roster (with Cena coming in 2nd) ... hell, they could have had a four-way elimination match for the US strap (though I'm not knocking the Benoit/Guerrero final, which Guerrero wins).

I think that Zach Gowen will be a major part of the Summerslam ad campaign to try and get mainstream press, so who knows how they'll book his match with Vince.

Haas and Benjamin have to go over in this one ... As scary a thought as it is, I think they'll set up a match between them and the APA for 'Slam ...

'Taker/Cena ... don't know, don't care ... I like both, but I agree that Cena should get the win ... Anyone smell a 'Chain on the Pole' match in the future?

Steph/Sable ... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz (unless there are boobs involved)

Main Event ... Show jobs to Lesnar to set up Brock/Angle at 'Slam ...

Maybe they'll add another match or two at next week's Smackdown ...




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Stephanie McMahon vs. Sable-I really wish they would've combined this with Gowen/Vince McMahon that way this stupid angle wouldn't be taking up as time on a 35 dollar ppv. I'll say Sable wins.

Vince McMahon vs. Gowen-God enough of this angle already. Vince will try to pick up the win when he pulls his pants off and gives Gowen the first ever bare tukus anchovy in the cheeks stinkface.

APA bar room brawl: Say wasn't Bradshaw a RAW wrestler before he got injured for a while? I don't know if this is even a real match, but just more stupid sportz entertainment that doesn't belong on a 35 dollar PPV.

Undertaker vs. John Cena-Well WWE has been building up John Cena quite a bit in the last few months, so its about time the Undertaker squashes him and puts him back in his place.

Tag Team Title Match:
Rey Mysterio and Kidman vs. Haas and Benjamin (C)-Mysterio will get pinned or accidentally give the tag champs the win so kidman will turn on Rey Mysterio setting up a CW title match or something between the two. This could be a good match.

US Title Match:
Eddie Guerrero vs. Chris Benoit-well I'm suprised at least the match doesn't involve Billy Gunn and actually includes good wrestlers. This is really the only match on the card that interests me and probably won't suck. I match could go a few ways. I say Eddie the heel will win this one as he has yet to beat Benoit in singles action since they both first appeared in WWF/WWE.

WWE Title Match:
Brock Lesnar (C) vs. Kurt Angle vs. Big Show-So when is Kurt Angle going to pull the Ric Flair on Lesnar already? I think Lesnar's been booked pretty poorly ever since he regained the title and is no longer the unstoppable animal or monster he used to be, I guess Goldberg got jealous and demanded he be the only unstoppable "ANIMAL"! I don't really care who wins as long as Big Show doesn't which I wouldn't put out of the minds of the dumb creative team. This should've just been the Lesnar vs. Angle rematch as originally announced. But when the hell is WWE going to book the Brock Lesnar vs. Chris Benoit super match?!

Anyway, like I've said before what this card is really missing is a good cruiserweight match. I say just put Matt Hardy vs. Ultimo Dragon on the card or maybe put together some kind of 4 way cruiserweight elimination match and give the winner a CW title shot on the smackdown! show following the PPV. But with our luck the creative team will probably just add Billy Gunn vs. Jamie Noble.




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The only matches I'm really looking forward to are:

Eddie / Benoit. This one's a push from my point of view. I've been telling anyone who will listen that Eddie's heel turn and near immediate win in the tournament meant that he'd be winning the belt. That may not happen but I'd still bet that that was the original intention.

Now that the match is set with two weeks to go until the big show, I think creative is going to get into a debate over babyfaces and heels. The result of the match isn't going to be a reflection on either Benoit or Guerrero. It will simply be a result of creative wanting a babyface as the champion or a babyface chasing the title. They've probably changed their minds a few times already and the finish will be reversed on the day of the show from whatever it was they were thinking.

Kurt Angle / Brock Lesnar / Big Show. This one can go in any direction as well. I'll have no problems with any one of them being SD!'s champion. I've liked their main event scene for a while now, probably because I'm not one of those guys who desparately want to see Brock as an unstoppable monster. I'm much happier with him as a dynamic character with weaknesses. "Unstoppable" is a temporary character trait at best.

The two most likely scenarios (IMO) are:

Big Show wins and Kurt and Brock compete to be the guy who beats him. Show would be a temporary champion, untouchable to anyone other than Kurt and Brock. The drama is in who can get the match and who can seal the deal. (IE: Brock gets the match first and Team Not Angle interfere to help Show keep the belt. Was Angle behind it? Of course he was but it's dealt with underneath the surface until he finally turns. Tension!)

Brock retains and his "friendly" rivalry with Kurt continues as is. If Brock wins it will probably be the result of botched interferance. (IE: Team Not Angle attacks Show but oops, Brock pins him instead because they couldn't keep him down.) Kurt ostensibly stays on Brock's side but the tension has more bite.

I don't forsee Kurt winning but anything can happen. He could get the belt and be a dick about giving Brock a straight up title match. He is Ric Flair to Brock's Sting. There's more drama right now if he's not the champion. He's the subtle mastermind heel who keeps retooling his plan until he snaps out of frustration and turns for real.

Remember, this is Angle's last angle. It's got to be a good one that stretches out until Wrestlemania. He will have one more title run but I just don't see it happening until closer to the Mania.



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Vince's daughter vs. Sable: I don't care. I'd rather watch Kamala vs. Giant Gonzales in a best of 29 falls match.

Vince vs. Peg Legged Pete: This match screams for the scaffold match stipulation. Now, that would make it interesting. But, since its not a scaffold match, I don't care. Peg Legged wins, and Vince comes out the next week on SD and lays out Brock Lesnar. Makes no sense, but then again, its booking around Vincent Kennedy McMahon.

Benoit vs. Guerrero: The face/heel dynamic in this match isn't much of a concern, because if the crowd turns toward Eddy, Benoit has faced him enough times as a heel in the past to improvise off of it. I'm beginning the Eddy for World Champion at SummerSlam campaign, so Benoit gets the US Title in a classic bout that elevates both men.

Taker vs. Cena: Taker controls 99.99% of the match, selling none of Cena's offense. Then Nathan Jones comes down, throws a shitty spin kick, and Taker will sell it like death and job to Cena, with the youngster getting the real rub being Nathan Jones.

APA Brawl: I don't care.

Billy Gunn vs. Jamie Noble: Noble potentially has an interesting gimmick. Billy Gunn is death. Noble gets squashed by Gunn.

Haas/Benjamin vs. Mysterio/Kidman: Baron and Akbar attack Kidman, as he is now related to their arch-nemesis Al Wilson. Oh wait, that's Dean's stuff. Back to the match. Kidman turns on Mysterio, tag champs retain.

Angle vs. Lesnar vs. Slug: If Lesnar is going into a feud with Vince, then take the World Title off of him in advance, so that Vince doesn't get the brilliant idea to have more World Title reigns in his career than Russo or Arquette. Since I'm campaigning for Eddy Guerrero to win the World Title at SummerSlam, then Kurt Angle winning it at Vengeance makes the most sense, and provides the best match at SummerSlam. Angle wins after Lesnar F5's Slug, and Angle sneaks in for the 3 count while Brock is distracted by Vince.



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