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Since: 2.1.02
From: The Las Vegas of Canada

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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.57

The White Sox send Orlando Hernandez and Chris Young to Arizona for Javier Vazquez.

As a Sox fan I am not sure what this deal does unless it is the opening in 2-piece move. Jon Garland will be a free agent after this year, so I could see him being moved for more hitting, or sending Brandon McCarthy (the #1 pitching prospect in the organization, and from what he's shown in the majors possibly the second best prospect behind Felix Hernandez) somewhere. Sports radio here is reporting that this opens up the possibility of a Sox-Orioles deal of McCarthy and Juan Uribe for Miguel Tejada. That would seem unlikely, but if it happened I would poop a hammer.
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Since: 13.2.04
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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.74
The Orioles would need a very good bat along with McCarthy.
The one game I saw McCarthy pitch he was brilliant. Seven or eight shutout innings against the Red Sox. I'd move Garland before him.


Since: 13.2.03
From: Chicago

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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.06
I think fans of 29 other teams popped when Tejada had his peeps drop the word that he was unhappy with the O's lack of improvement (increased payroll). Someone pegged it when they said that this is just another free agent who went for the maximum dollars, then after getting the money started whining about wanting to be on a winner. (see: A-Rod)

(Aside: These people should be forced to switch agents to Drew Rosenhaus. Drew's unintentional comedy factor is at least four times greater than that of Scott Boras.)

But likely it's nothing more than a plea for Angelos to make a splash - not easy in that either this year was an anomaly, or teams have gotten much better at locking up core players before they reach the open market. The lack of big-ticket free agents has even helped the small markets in that there's competition for the salary dump casualties.

But looking at this from Baltimore's side, I can't believe that after the Sosa/Palmiero follies last year, they can trade their one bankable star for mere prospects.

Getting back to the deal at hand, I like the move as it seemed exposed in the playoffs that El Duque just can't hold runners on, and that was getting exploited. Although I see on that serviceable reliever Luis Vizcaino also went to the D-Backs here. Guessing, I think that leaves the Sox with McCarthy starting '06 in the bullpen, and Kenny Williams has a nice insurance policy against a starter going down - and a nice chip to trade midseason to fill whatever need pops up. (Or McCarthy just prepares to take Garland's spot in '07 as the Sox let him walk.)

Podsednik LF
Uribe SS
Dye RF
Konerko 1B
Thome DH
Iguchi 2B
Pierzinski C
Crede 3B
Rookie CF TBA

Bench: Mackowiak - Harris - Perez - Rookie OF - Widger

Rotation: Buherle - Garcia - Vasquez - Garland - Contreras
Pen: TBA - McCarthy - Politte - Cotts - Hermanson - Jenks

That's pretty settled, for mid-December

Since: 2.1.02
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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.57
I would much prefer to deal Garland now, coming off the 18 win season, and a year away from FA. I feel like Contreras will likely re-up with the Sox, so we would have all of our starters locked up for at least 2 more years. And the value of having BMac in the bullpen is far less than what he could bring as the #5 starter for this team. Which is why this deal makes me salivate, as you would be looking at:

Podsednik - LF
Tejada - SS
Thome - DH
Konerko - 1B
Dye - RF
Iguchi - 2B
Pierzynski - C
Crede - 3B
Brian Anderson - CF

Bench: Mackowiak - Widger - Perez - Harris - ?

Rotation: Buerhle, Contreras, Garcia, Vazquez, McCarthy
Bullpen: Jenks, Hermanson, Politte, Cotts,?, ?.

I am sure we can pick up an arm here or there, as our top four spots are filled at that point in the pen. The pitching is about as good as last year (McCarthy can be much more effective than Hernandez was), and the offense is tremendously more imposing.

Since: 24.7.02

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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.82
After the 6th inning of game 3, I'm glad to see El Duque out of the American League. If Vazquez can retain his National League form in the American League, the White Sox should have a deeper rotation, and if Jenks develops, a more reliable closer, than last season. If Vazquez's 2004 A.L. form reappears, the White Sox better not ship off any of their other starters. So, 2 members of the White Sox rotation will have parts of their salaries paid by the Yankees this season.

Any complaints about the preceding post can be directed at the time traveling aliens who edited it.

Since: 11.7.02
From: New Jersey

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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.81
To nitpick, the Yankees aren't paying Vazquez salary. They paid Zona ~$3 mil per year to take him and Arizona pocketed the money. Arizona will be sending over some of that money to Chicago to cover Vazquez and because they really like the rookie outfielder C.Young. Vazquez is due to collect $12mil per for the 2 years left on his deal.

I don't like the Vazquez trade-demand with the popular "I want to be closer to my family" line of BS.

Since: 12.1.02
From: Fresno, CA

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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.44
Well, Chicago IS closer than Phoenix.

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Well now. Obviously if the traveling manager had just done his job in the first place Manny wouldn't have had to have gone Manny. It's all right there in the article. Maybe Tyler Chicken has some trade bait.
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