Originally posted by Mayhem It's looking like Couch will be a backup wherever he lands. My money is on Green Bay.
I'll be surprised if he ends up in Green Bay. Mini-camp is over, and Sherman really wanted him in NOW if he was going to be in at all. Given that Couch and/or his agent only want a one year deal, the Packers aren't going to give him that (they're really only interested in him for next year or beyond).
Considering he's as late as he is as far as QB schools, there's no team in their right mind* that would offer him one year and just one year.
It's all payment, no upside, especially since most likely they'd be paying far too much for a backup QB who's going to be playing catch-up with whatever system is in place from the word go and wouldn't have a full grasp on it until midseason. The one exception is possibly he may land somewhere like Houston, where Chris Palmer is the O-Cord and I'll presume he's familiar enough with the scheme from the first two years with Cleveland to pick it right up.
*Teams in their right mind does not include the Arizona Cardinals or the Chicago Bears.
Originally posted by whateverOnce again, the Brownies have let someone go without getting anyone in return.
I'm sure if there were anyone out there willing to give up anything to get Tim Couch, the Browns would have happily taken it. It's not always easy to get something back for a guy that nobody wants.
Yes, NOW nobody wants Couch. Why couldn't they have traded him earlier, before they tipped their hand by signing Garcia and before these other QB's ended up on the market? This is also a reflection of the loss of Kevin Johnson - another guy with rumors about teams wanting to trade for him and then just cutting him. Even a low-round draft pick would have been SOMETHING instead of nothing *and* a cap hit.
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I don't think you were going to find any other teams, especially contenders, willing to give up something in exchange for a backup QB with a big salary cap number either. The only way teams were going to take a run at Couch would be if he's a free agent and they can get him for what he's worth now, not what people thought he'd be worth when he was the #1 pick in the draft.
Johnson is a bit more of a mystery, but then I'm not familiar with his contract situation.
He's a Packer. It looks like he took a major pay cut, but I'm not sure there were any serious suitors for him.
Either way, I think the Pack gained a very good backup, and if Favre ever decides to stop playing, Couch could be a very good option as a future starter. Of course, this is only a one-year deal, so they'd have to re-sign him.
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I don't think being the guy to replace Brett Favre is quite the situation Tim Couch needs. That's going to be a ton of pressure for someone to deal with in the next couple of years, and history doesn't suggest Couch is the man to deal with it. He didn't do anything special in Cleveland when the only expectations were to compete and stay in games. If he goes into an environment where he's expected to fill legendary shoes and contend for the Super Bowl he could have some serious problems.
Originally posted by The ThrillI dunno...I have yet to see the scouting report on his clipboard-holding skills.
Hurry up and develop, Craig Nall...
Tim Couch never had a snowball's chance in hell of succeeding in Cleveland. He never had a good line or a running game. And then, when Butchie took over, he had to deal with all the Kelly Holcomb crap. Couch can be a very good QB; he just needs the right situation. I think he can be a damn good fit in GB.
The Kelly Holcomb "crap" only came about because Holcomb played much better than Couch did. Basically, Couch lost his job. That's hardly a reason to say the guy didn't have a chance. He had one, he just wasn't good enough to keep it.
Regarding Gannon over Favre, I agree with it also. He had much better Yards Per Pass numbers 7.6 vs. 6.6. SI picked Favre because he had less to work with. But, I go with Gannon because of the numbers.