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Acording to 1wrestling.com, UPN exectutives have stated clearly to WWE that they don't want the Muhammad Hassan character to appear of their network anymore because of the angle involving terrorists 2 weeks ago.

All I have to say is bravo to UPN. WWE really stepped in it and i am really glad they are getting punished for it. Maybe Hassan will have to go back to Raw now and it looks like SummerSlam has been screwed too.



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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.54
>> Acording to 1wrestling.com, UPN exectutives have stated clearly to WWE that they don't want the Muhammad Hassan character to appear of their network anymore because of the angle involving terrorists 2 weeks ago.

All I have to say is bravo to UPN. WWE really stepped in it and i am really glad they are getting punished for it. <<

You're happy Hassan might be thrown off of UPN? And yet you've drafted Hassan 4 weeks in a row in the Fantasy game. Like scoring zeroes, do you?

If true, it looks like circumstances might force the possibility of Hassan becoming number one contender to Batista to be tossed right out the window.


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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.75
Can't they rename him, give him a makeover or new moniker?

He doesn't have to be so explicitly the angry Arab-American to be a heel.



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Since: 10.12.01
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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00

    If true, it looks like circumstances might force the possibility of Hassan becoming number one contender to Batista to be tossed right out the window.


Yet, while Undertaker/Batista is a match, status wise, that seems SummerSlam worthy, it doesn't seem like a match they'd actually like to do. Quite a bind, though I think they can write themselves otut of it.

Correct or not, they see money in the Hassan character and more over, Vince and WWE really don't take well to being told what to do. I'd think that means he's back on RAW and getting a big push, but he was at a creative end there and there's no obvious slot they could slide him in as. So who knows.



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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05
UPN........I love you.

Hows about they trade Hassan back to Raw in exchange for Benjamin? Benjamin against Benoit, Eddie, Rey, JBL, Lesnar would be fantastic. Plus, SD offers more upward mobility.



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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.75
I say split Hassan and Davari and let the latter work in the cruiser ranks. Or, barring that, do what I suggested months ago and put Davari and Hassan into heavy rotation in the tag division. They are a natural tag unit.



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Since: 1.4.03
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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.34
Just put him back on RAW and he can say how the American run UPN barred him for appearing on their network, etc. Gives him some more ammo to use on RAW about being teated "wrongly".



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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.11
Looks like Vince's latest little attention-whoring plot has completely backfired. Can't say that it wasn't deserved.

I'd agree with trading Hassan for Shelton but Raw's face side is way too weak right now to lose Shelton. Just Cena in the main event level and just Shelton in the upper-midcard really.




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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.21
I'm glad UPN is putting their foot down on this, although UPN is just as much to blame for the segment airing as WWE is.

I guess this just means that Hassan goes back to RAW. Don't know if they'll trade someone to SmackDown in his place.



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Since: 12.12.01
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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.46
UPN UPN UPN UPN UPN UPN UPN

Solution: Taker wins, Taker vs. Batista on TV, Orton attacks both guys, threeway. Still a risky proposition, but I'm trying to be more creative than Batista/JBL in another rematch.
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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.42
    Originally posted by Kawshen
    Looks like Vince's latest little attention-whoring plot has completely backfired.


I disagree. In the short term, maybe this is a blow, but this could be what puts Hassan over the top and legitimizes him. Vince isn't stupid, I'm sure he sees money in this. They just have to play it right.
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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.71
You know... if Vince REALLY wants to piss off UPN, he could always do a Midnight Rider angle with Hassan...



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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.46
Say, has anyone besides 1wrestling (or someone quoting 1wrestling) reported this?

Not that I don't immediately believe EVERYTHING on 1wrestling, mind...



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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.65
    Originally posted by rv581
    You know... if Vince REALLY wants to piss off UPN, he could always do a Midnight Rider angle with Hassan...


As long as he uses the line "I will feel your TV screen.

As far a this whole Hassan thing goes, I gotta agree BucsFan. Vince will find a way to see dollar signs outta this.

My question is can he basically say F U to the network and pull the show off UPN. What kind of ostacles would it take in regards to a "buy-out"?



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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.18
Would it be totally out of the question to have Davairi do all the work to promote the match with Batista at Summerslam, talking about how the number one contender isn't even allowed on TV because of his heritage? Hassan could continue to cut some more killer promos on wwe.com and they could even air them on Velocity to make it seem slightly important for a few weeks.

After all, the match isn't *that* important when you consider how stacked the overall card for the show is. Smackdown even has Undertaker/Orton that they could focus on as their big match.

Of course, all of that depends on whether Davairi was part of the package UPN wants rid of.
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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.00
I wish I knew what was planned for Hassan. I know originally WWE said something like, "In the end, the viewer will be taught a lesson about stereotypes. Let the character play out before judging" Something like that, basically foreshadowing that Hassan would end up as a sympathetic face. I thought that the night that Austin was reffing his match that the face turn was starting. I was definitely wrong on that one.



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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05
The *LAST* people who should be teaching a lesson about stereotypes are the WWE.



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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.10
    Originally posted by dskillz
    I wish I knew what was planned for Hassan. I know originally WWE said something like, "In the end, the viewer will be taught a lesson about stereotypes. Let the character play out before judging" Something like that, basically foreshadowing that Hassan would end up as a sympathetic face.


Anything WWE said to this effect always struck me as disingenuous. Deflecting criticism by alluding to a future face turn when the gimmick "plays out" is an empty promise, because there's no guarantee the gimmick will "play out" to begin with. WWE can have Hassan go for cheap xenophobic heat for the rest of his career, all the while saying "Don't get on our case, because he'll turn face any day now..."

That's what offends me about the gimmick. Not the Arab guy sending his terrorist-wannabe buddies to attack heroic white guys, but WWE's two-faced manner of telling critics he's not so bad and telling fans that he really is that bad. Especially when, as in the WWE.com promo, they try to say both things to both groups with the exact same words.
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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.80
CRZ is right tho, do we have any confirmation that this is really UPN's stance?

And even if it is- Last I checked, Summerslam wasnt going to be shown on UPN, If Vince wants to- Muhammad can keep furthering the storyline from RAW and he can wrestle Taker at Summerslam anyways. Would they do that? Most likely not- but who knows?



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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.32
So is UPN (if indeed, the 1wrestling report is true) going to censor any story on their shows that hints at terrorism? Or is this just a new rule that applies to all them "rasslin'" programs out there? Will they eliminate footage of terrorist attacks in their news shows? What if they eventually land a show that covers the topic like 24 does? Would that have to be cut out as well?

I'm sorry -- and I don't mean to belittle anyone's (legitimate) concerns about this angle in general -- but where does UPN get off effectively writing off a character that suddenly is deemed too controversial? Sure, its their network, but have they done this before in the past with characters on other shows?

As far as I know, there have been no complaints about the angle from the FCC, etc. Is this being lumped in as "WWE using poor taste" the same way as the necrophilia angle (and yes, I realize that was on a different network), or are they holding it to a different standard because this guy is an Arab-American portraying a quasi-terrorist?

Again, I understand that many people feel the angle was in poor taste, and that ultimately may drive away viewers, but will UPN pull the same crap with other non-wrestling shows in the future? I guess that's my only point in this...

Oh, and also to say that apparently Muhammad Hassan makes some damned good points about the way society perceives his character.



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