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I hope the same people who get all excited mocking Hollywood celebrities for airing their political views will be ready to throw some darts this way. I mean really who is less credible to listen to than a group of athletes?!

From the Chicago Sun Times: Ballplayers line up on abortion

Some baseball figures are stepping up to the plate over one of society's great debates: abortion. Maybe overstepping, too.

"It is a highly charged issue; I understand that,'' former Twins pitcher Geoff Zahn told the Minneapolis Star Tribune, which reports more than 90 ballplayers hope to raise $1 million for a national abortion-opponents group. The money would go to the Virginia-based conservative American Life League--which opposes abortion for any reason--to help construct an educational campus.

Among the players supporting the Battin' 1000 (as in $$$$) fundraising drive are former White Sox left-hander Floyd Bannister, former Cubs right-hander Scott Sanderson, Sox infielder Tony Graffanino and former Cubs outfielder and announcer Joe Carter.

"I believe that, whether celebrities or athletes or firemen or whatever, people have that right in this country to stand up for what they believe,'' Zahn said.

"Ballplayers should be able to support what they want to,'' said Eric Ehst, a spokesman for the National Organization for Women. "[While] I'm sure it does not have the sanction of Major League Baseball, [it] has the appearance of it.''

"We just used it [baseball] as a theme and no more than that,'' Battin' 1000 chairman/former big-leaguer Sal Bando said on ESPN's "Outside the Lines.''

"Because it was a theme we got some baseball players involved, but by no means are we saying that baseball is going to be the platform for us to take our stand.''




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    Originally posted by spf2119
    Ballplayers should be able to support what they want to,'' said Eric Ehst, a spokesman for the National Organization for Women. "[While] I'm sure it does not have the sanction of Major League Baseball, [it] has the appearance of it.''

Just based on this reading
1. how in the hell did this clown come up with that conclusion; and,

2. Why is a man the spokesperson for NOW?




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I used to be the first one to get sick of celebrities speaking out in what I deemed to be improper forums for their causes. Now it seems that the backlash against them has swung so far around that I am beginning to feel sympathy for them. I don't see anything wrong in what the former baseball players here are doing.
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    Originally posted by Ukrainian Justice
    I don't see anything wrong in what the former baseball players here are doing.

At least the ballplayers are just supporting something, as opposed to writing memos for senate leadership and berating people for holding opposing views...




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How are these guys any less credible than Barbara Streisand or Tim Robbins? And what IF MLB condoned and supported these views? Don't they have a right to their own opinion? Or does that right only apply to peaceniks and baby killers? I don't agree with these guys 100%, but at least they aren't blocking traffic.



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    Originally posted by spf2119
    I hope the same people who get all excited mocking Hollywood celebrities for airing their political views will be ready to throw some darts this way. I mean really who is less credible to listen to than a group of athletes?!

    From the Chicago Sun Times: Ballplayers line up on abortion

    Some baseball figures are stepping up to the plate over one of society's great debates: abortion. Maybe overstepping, too.

    "It is a highly charged issue; I understand that,'' former Twins pitcher Geoff Zahn told the Minneapolis Star Tribune, which reports more than 90 ballplayers hope to raise $1 million for a national abortion-opponents group. The money would go to the Virginia-based conservative American Life League--which opposes abortion for any reason--to help construct an educational campus.

    Among the players supporting the Battin' 1000 (as in $$$$) fundraising drive are former White Sox left-hander Floyd Bannister, former Cubs right-hander Scott Sanderson, Sox infielder Tony Graffanino and former Cubs outfielder and announcer Joe Carter.

    "I believe that, whether celebrities or athletes or firemen or whatever, people have that right in this country to stand up for what they believe,'' Zahn said.

    "Ballplayers should be able to support what they want to,'' said Eric Ehst, a spokesman for the National Organization for Women. "[While] I'm sure it does not have the sanction of Major League Baseball, [it] has the appearance of it.''

    "We just used it [baseball] as a theme and no more than that,'' Battin' 1000 chairman/former big-leaguer Sal Bando said on ESPN's "Outside the Lines.''

    "Because it was a theme we got some baseball players involved, but by no means are we saying that baseball is going to be the platform for us to take our stand.''



I don't mind celebs taking a stand on something or speaking their mind, but these baseball players are raising money for a good cause in their (and my) mind. Also, they haven't insulted anyone, said anything inflamatory, insulted troops, etc. etc. They are simply raising money for a cause they like (that I think I might actually give some money too) and speaking their mind. My big, BIG problem with celebs is when they claim to KNOW MORE THEN ALL OF US AND OUR POLITICANS. When some actor who reads the paper tries to claim they are smarter than me and know more about the world and politics then I do, when in almost all cases they don't, and that I should obey their god like commands..... that angers me. If these baseball players had said "Look, America is a bad place do to abortions, we should end it all, people who get abortions are evil!" It would be a big deal, this doesn't seem to be one.



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    Originally posted by Bizzle Izzle
    How are these guys any less credible than Barbara Streisand or Tim Robbins?


Good to know the point's never lost on you, Bizzle.



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I don't even blame the Streisands and the Robbins for their stands on any issue. The two things I have a problem with are:

1) Stupid/false comments (eg Streisand's ridiculous "statistics" she often posts on her website)

2) The morons in the media who give them interview time solely to make political statements. I don't blame anyone for taking advantage of a platform when it's offered, but extending such an offer to actors and actresses because of name recognition rather than expertise is stupid.

If celebrities want to use their status to support causes they believe in, more power to them.



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Reading the report, I don't read any of the players putting their foots in their mouths. They haven't called abortion doctors nazis, or anything along those lines. They're just raising money. There is a difference between using your celebrity to raise money for an organization and calling Bush Hitler.

It's a matter of tact. Something the Hollywood Left might be the worst in the world at.





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    Originally posted by Scott Summets
    I don't mind celebs taking a stand on something or speaking their mind...


Umm, what about that walking ass Martin Sheen who doesn't seem to realize that he only PLAYS the role of the president and isn't in ACTUALITY the president. I'd kill to see someone just kick him in the nuts.



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The coyote goes...The NFL is solidly behind the United Way, which is a charitable organization (as opposed to business).

Some MLB players are behind this, but MLB is not. Why is it a problem that these guys are involved in a hot button issue (there would be criticisms if they had gone on either side of the coin), and okay that the NFL sends it's players to spend time with children due to the fact they come from broken homes and/or are in relatively poor neighborhoods? In fact, if I figure this right, poverty and parentless children count for two hot button issues in the country, as opposed to the one that abortion raises.

No fair saying wrong or right cause, because the morality of either is not in question. Why criticize the baseball players when nobody has ever said anything about the United Way using the NFL for sway?

(edited by Lexus on 18.4.03 0159)


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