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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.12
Man, based on the lack of interest in the prediction thread and no one starting the results thread yet (three hours after the show ended), I take it not many people watched it.

-The ECW Scramble led off and was won by Matt Hardy. He kept breaking up pins during the last minute so that his fall would be the final one. It was an OK match, as you'd expect. Still not sure why Miz and not Morrison was in there.

-Rhodes & Dibiase beat Cryme Tyme. It was a pretty good 10-minute match, I thought. After the match, Afa's son came out to help the champs beat down CT. Apparently, he's going by the name "Manu."

-HBK beat Chris Jericho due to ref stoppage. Jericho took one for the team here; quite a beating. HBK pummeled him with his fist covered with his belt right in the head, punch after punch. HBK was quite emotional during and after the match. A great one, as you'd expect.

-Triple H won the Smackdown scramble. No surprise, since he's been portrayed as being so much superior to all the others on Smackdown lately. Looks like a feud brewing between him and Hardy, though they shook hands after the match.

-CM Punk was attacked by Orton and his underlings (Teddy, Cody and Manu) backstage- Kofi tried to help, to no avail (a Survivor Series match in the making?), and Orton kicked Punk's head off. Adamle later came out to say he may not participate in the scramble match, but would have a suitable replacement.

-Michelle beat Maryse. It was there.

-Big Show came out to talk and Vickie came out to scold him. Taker came out for Vickie's soul and Show turned on Taker, helping Vickie and doing a really extended beat-down on the dead man.

-The Raw Scramble match was won by your new World Champion, Chris Jericho. Punk didn't come out and the 5th and final man was Y2J, who limped to the ring, battered and bruised. He was immediately speared by Big Dave and sat the rest of the match out until the end. Batista hit a spinebuster on Kane and pinned him with like :30 to go. Rey then distracted Batista while Jericho snuck in and pinned Kane just before the buzzer. The look on Batista's face was awesome.

Overall, a slight thumbs up I'd say, but if I never see the Scramble concept again, I'd be OK with it.
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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.18
Good lord, my mind boggles. They TOTALLY hot-shotted that last title change. I'm not against Jericho being champion, but with the amazing job he's been doing, it at least deserved some sort of buildup. A shock title change on a meaningless PPV is just cheap.

On the upside, this is BEGGING for an HBK/Jericho Wrestlemania main event.




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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.50
    Originally posted by geemoney
    -Rhodes & Dibiase beat Cryme Tyme. It was a pretty good 10-minute match, I thought. After the match, Afa's son came out to help the champs beat down CT. Apparently, he's going by the name "Manu."



Kenny Dykstra, Bam Neely and now Manu? What's his last name going to be? Dinobili? Hinobili? Sinobili?



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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.22
Jericho as your world champion is going to make me tune into Raw tonight. I can't wait for his matches with Batista, CM Punk and Rey. Hell even an Orton fued would be fun.
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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.99
    Originally posted by geemoney

    -The Raw Scramble match was won by your new World Champion, Chris Jericho. Punk didn't come out and the 5th and final man was Y2J, who limped to the ring, battered and bruised. He was immediately speared by Big Dave and sat the rest of the match out until the end. Batista hit a spinebuster on Kane and pinned him with like :30 to go. Rey then distracted Batista while Jericho snuck in and pinned Kane just before the buzzer. The look on Batista's face was awesome.


    Originally posted by Hokienautic

    Of course, it'd be easy enough to involve Jericho in the match too. Heck, have him help Punk get a pin in the last 30 seconds to leave as champ with the reasoning that he's already beaten him, plus Punk is what Jericho used to be re: playing to the fans, trying to do the "right thing" all the time, and Jericho wants to destroy that. Could be gold![/quote

    Give that man a prize! Seriously, this played out similar to what I thought would happen. Despite what quezzy said about it being a dumb strategy to wait until the end, it paid off for Jericho, who was hurt, and not originally scheduled for the match. Yeah, it's petty, but technically I was the smart one here. That's right. S-M-R-T...err S-M-A-R-T.



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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.29



Oh, yeah, I can dig it.

(edited by ekedolphin on 8.9.08 0806)


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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.74
I'm disappointed I missed this, as 2 of my favorites (as seen right above) now have belts, though I'm not happy with how they totally took Punk outta the match. The restaurant/bar where my g/f and I saw Wrestlemania apparently stopped carrying the PPVs over the summer.

I also wish I'd done a screen cap of WWE.com's story on Jericho's win last night, because for about 15 minutes the headline was the inappropriately punny "CLEVELAND SCHEMER"...seriously. Then they updated it and changed the headline.



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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.84
    Originally posted by geemoney
    I never see the Scramble concept again, I'd be OK with it.


I mostly concur. None of the three Scrambles had that WOW factor. I thought the ECW Scramble did a good job of cementing the idea that the last guy who gets a pinfall has to stop everyone else from getting one.

The Smackdown Scramble had Jeff Hardy completely blowing it as he was in the exact same situation Matt was in. All Jeff had to do was break up Triple H's pin on MVP and he'd be WWE Champion. Instead he went for an unnecessary cover on Shelton. Dumb move that cost him big. I also hereby rescind my breathless announcement of a few weeks ago that the glass ceiling has been shattered. I was hoping someone unlikely would get something over on Triple H, but nope, he basically destroyed everyone he touched. For me, the highlight of this Scramble was the five glorious minutes The Brian Kendrick was Interim WWE Champion and all the hilarious dancing he did. Kendrick is awesome.

The Big Show turning on The Undertaker angle was SHOCKING for anyone who's never watched wrestling before in their life. Playing the role of Sting was the Undertaker and playing the role of Tony Schiavone was Jim Ross. Neither of them ever saw ridiculously happy Big Show's arguments with Vickie as an obvious ruse.

But the hero of Unforgiven is Chris Jericho. What a great night for Jericho! The man gets beaten half to death by Shawn Michaels and walks out of the show as World Heavyweight Champion. Poor Batista really sold how crushed he was for failing yet again and winning the belt. First time since 2002 that Jericho has held a World Title. The CM Punk experiment is over for now. You saved me, Chris Jericho. You saved me.

Loved how Jericho took the beating of his life but could still compete in the RAW Scramble while CM Punk took one Randy Orton field goal kick to the head and was done for the night. Punk is a wuss. Jericho is all man.

(edited by John Orquiola on 8.9.08 0821)
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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.17
Sadly I saw Jericho becoming champion as soon as he appeared. I'd seen the swerve with Big show and Vickie

CM Punk apparantly not fitting into the plans is ridiculous. The creative team could at least given him a proper chance to drop the title rather than completely remove him from the title match.



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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.14
    Originally posted by John Orquiola
    The Smackdown Scramble had Jeff Hardy completely blowing it as he was in the exact same situation Matt was in. All Jeff had to do was break up Triple H's pin on MVP and he'd be WWE Champion. Instead he went for an unnecessary cover on Shelton.


In fairness to ... whomever, I think someone(s) blew the timing of the finish a la Judgment Day 2000. Hunter should've pinned MVP with seconds to spare and Jeff would've gone "oh blimey" and made a desperate cover with 2 seconds left. Instead they did both pins at the same time so it made no sense and made Jeff look terrible.


    I was hoping someone unlikely would get something over on Triple H, but nope, he basically destroyed everyone he touched.


It did tell a nice story of Jeff on the verge of winning the title and barely not hanging on. If they go to Jeff/HHH now (or even slightly longer down the road), it's a good chapter in that storyline. I would've definitely taken it had it happened, but I don't think it would've served Jeff to have his first world title win come from a clock ticking to zero instead of a 1-2-3. That really hurt Matt Hardy's ECW title win.


    For me, the highlight of this Scramble was the five glorious minutes The Brian Kendrick was Interim WWE Champion and all the hilarious dancing he did. Kendrick is awesome.


And the highlight of those glorious five minutes was Jeff flattening Kendrick and then DOING THE KENDRICK DANCE.

    Originally posted by mikebuk
    CM Punk apparantly not fitting into the plans is ridiculous.


I didn't like Punk not being in the match. After all the emphasis on Punk's title reign, I feel like he should've been in there. If they'd have had their plans in order two weeks ago, they should've kept Cena's replacement up in the air and had Jericho do the same finish.

But the booking does go out of its way to protect Punk. He never lost the title and he'll go into a big feud with Randy Orton.

    Originally posted by John
    The CM Punk experiment is over for now.


And it was an enormous success! Even if I think this should've been the second-to-last chapter in his title reign instead of the last, they took a guy who was doing clean jobs to Miz and Chavo on ECW (which in retrospect look like a Humbling Test prerequisite to a big push that he passed) and made him into a guy who can viably headline a Raw program with Randy Orton.


Alls in alls, I thought the booking created some Exciting New Possibilities but the scramble matches themselves were no good, the best being the Smackdown one thanks to the Jeff story and Kendrick taking over for a while.
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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.68
I hate to be the one to ask, but was there a non-storyline reason for Punk being taken out of the match? It just seems so odd to remove his title this way, and I hate to say it but my first thought was "uh oh, another suspension for a top star?"
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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.27
I didn't see the show, but I do have a couple of comments to make:

--According to Meltz, WWE is counting this as a new title reign for Triple H since there was an "interim champion". If so, I'm sorry, that's ridiculous and makes him look AWFUL. It really comes off as though he wanted to add another reign to his count, but without jobbing to anybody, so he had them come up with a match where he could get a new title reign without losing and without anyone else getting a championship reign out of it.

EDIT: F4W/Meltz now says that WWE has changed their mind on this. It doesn't say it was because of my post, but I think that's kind of implied. No? Well, anyway...

--I agree with those who don't like the way that CM Punk was bounced out of the picture. I'm a Jerichoholic but they'd have been better off having Punk retain while setting the stage for Jericho to challenge and win at the next PPV.

--But the big news is: Batista becomes the first person ever to become a wrestling world champion (albeit an interim one) on one part of your cable system while simultaneously eating gourmet snails on another~~!! He was, believe it or not, one of the judges on Iron Chef America last night. Worth catching the reruns throughout the week, if only because Alton Brown seemed like he was hopped up on goofballs throughout the proceedings.

(edited by Peter The Hegemon on 8.9.08 1757)
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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.89
There's a really good interview on WWE.com with Jericho right after the match.

I guess it's time to follow the "Path of Jericho" to become legendary.

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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.60
    Originally posted by John Orquiola
      Originally posted by geemoney
      I never see the Scramble concept again, I'd be OK with it.



    Loved how Jericho took the beating of his life but could still compete in the RAW Scramble while CM Punk took one Randy Orton field goal kick to the head and was done for the night. Punk is a wuss. Jericho is all man.

    (edited by John Orquiola on 8.9.08 0821)


Yeah you're right. I mean anyone can take on 4 guys at once. What a pussy.
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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.83
- Neither Jeff Hardy nor Kane seemed to grasp the concept of being the interim champion, as they both went over cover while already champion numerous times.

- Striker and Grisham are awesome. Robert Frost and Liger references in the same match. Striker has a great skill of selling the emotion of the match with a twist of history without even really raising his voice.

- The Shane McMahon leap of death killing Jericho and Cade and the immediate reaction from Michaels was a top moment of the year.
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OK Here's my question...if the Michaels/Jericho match was supposedly unsanctioned, then why did the ref stop the match? there shouldn't have been a ref in the first place!



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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.82
    Originally posted by JustinShapiro
    And the highlight of those glorious five minutes was Jeff flattening Kendrick and then DOING THE KENDRICK DANCE.
Because if there's anything Jeff Hardy has any business doing, it's making fun of someone else's fruity dancing.



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    Originally posted by thefraserman
    OK Here's my question...if the Michaels/Jericho match was supposedly unsanctioned, then why did the ref stop the match? there shouldn't have been a ref in the first place!


Thank you! When I first saw this result I thought the SAME exact thing. How can you officially stop a match that isn't officially existing? Why didn't they just make it a street fight?



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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.16
The greatest moment of the match for me was when Triple H came out. The Kendrick was lying in a heap in the middle of the ring and gave the 'just bring it' motion. That was so great.



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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.88
So was that Mysterio's hair or part of the mask? I though hair at first but after further review I think it was just part of the mask.

I was totally bamboozled by this PPV. Because I'm dense, I didn't see the Big Show turn coming. I guess I was anticipating Edge's appearance or for Taker to actually set Vickie on fire. That would have been a huge, huge fire. And the Jericho swerve was out of nowhere. I just didn't think Punk would drop the belt without being there to drop it.

Shame on the Raw Scramble for starting with Batista and JBL. That was a long five minutes.

The Kendrick taking three consecutive pinfalls was awesome. That's a part I would have thought left for Miz in the ECW match.

And I wish Kane or Matt Hardy would have gotten a pin while being interim champ. Just to the announcer good say '...and STILL World Heavyweight Champion...'
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