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Since: 12.7.03
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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.97
Rajah.com :: News
8/31/2004

Current WWE Unforgiven Card & Rumored Matches
Filed under: News- Larry Jackson @ 11:31 pm EDT
The following matches are confirmed for the RAW-brand only PPV, WWE Unforgiven:

World Title Match
Randy Orton vs. Triple H

William Regal & Chris Benoit vs. Ric Flair & Batista

Kane vs. Shawn Michaels

Rumored Matches:

World Tag-Team Title Match
La Resistance vs. Tajiri & Rhyno

Women’s Title Match
Trish Stratus vs. Victoria

Chris Jericho vs. Christian


I think it looks to be a pretty strong PPV. I wish Edge vs. Jericho continued but no one can complain about Christian vs. Jericho. They have chemistry and history. I wonder where Eugene will figure into this? With his win over HHH he'll have to have a match I would think.



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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.37
Well, everything but Jericho/Christian has been confirmed. Tajiri/Rhyno was the first match scheduled for Unforgiven. Trish vs. Victoria was announced during the tag match this week on Raw.

As of right now, here are my picks

World Title Match
Randy Orton vs. Triple H

- Orton via Evolution interference. Evolution turns on HHH.

William Regal & Chris Benoit vs. Ric Flair & Batista

- Benoit and Regal, because the faces will need a win. Eugene will be at ringside and help with the win.

Kane vs. Shawn Michaels

- HBK, because Shawn won't lay down for any man who isn't HHH's friend. HBK wins via Lita interference.


World Tag-Team Title Match
La Resistance vs. Tajiri & Rhyno

-Tagiri and Rhyno, because they have matching tights plus they got a big rub helping Rock out. The tag division needs help and these two could go an ECW right with it.

Women’s Title Match
Trish Stratus vs. Victoria

-Victoria after Mystery Stevie comes in and takes out Tomko. I do think its a toss up since heel Trish is much more interesting than any of the female characters right now, but the storyline has been building for Stevie's return.

Chris Jericho vs. Christian

-Christian thanks to Edge. E&C reunion, baby.

Its an ok card on paper, but executed correctly, it should blow Summerslam away.
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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.54
You heard it here first - since Eugene beat HHH, he'll be added into the Randy Orton/HHH match for a 3 way dance, so HHH doesn't have to lay down for Randy.
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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.17

6 possible matches ... maybe they will add another, but I looked at the RAW Superstars page and thought "who in the hell can they add?" ...




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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.96
Looks like a pretty good card for a brand only PPV. I think they're going to tease the Edge/Christian stuff for awhile so I could see a Three Way if Edge can go.

Also, SHELTON BENJAMIN is back on the road and doing dark matches so I would expect him to be involved somewhere. Perhaps as an ally to Chris Jericho? Get him right back in the IC Title picture.

Maybe throw Val Venis a bone for all his good work recently on Heat?

You know they'll probably put something DivaSearch related in there because they'll be down to the final 3, I think.



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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05
    Originally posted by A Fan
    World Title Match
    Randy Orton vs. Triple H

    - Orton via Evolution interference. Evolution turns on HHH.

I don't get the logic here. Are you turning Orton back to a heel? Is that such a wise idea, seeing as he seems to be getting over as a face? Otherwise, Evo turning face against lone heel HHH doesn't make sense.



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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.96
I would say Orton loses via Evolution interference and Triple H ducks him until WrestleMania. Orton can "Legend Kill" Ric Flair, have an extended feud with Batista, and whoever becomes the new member of Evolution.





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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.36
    Originally posted by fuelinjected
    I would say Orton loses via Evolution interference and Triple H ducks him until WrestleMania. Orton can "Legend Kill" Ric Flair, have an extended feud with Batista, and whoever becomes the new member of Evolution.




I'd hold off on doing this until Taboo Tuesday, or maybe a Survivor Series elimination chamber. Evolution interference couldn't get the title off Benoit for five months, but they get it off Orton the first time out? Makes him look like a bit of a puss, no? Other than that, that's more or less how I'd plan it out.



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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.67
I dunno, I kinda like Fan's suggested double-turn scenario. Huner would definitely get cheered in such a situation, and it flips the coin on Orton's heart. Suddenly he's a cool heel again, and they could hold off on turning him til after WrestleMania so that the fans are literally begging for it to happen. It's the '98 Rock principle.



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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.00
I absolutely expect Evolution to turn on HHH and rejoin with Randy at the PPV. Orton's face turn smells like the Rock's psuedo-face run before he turned Corporate at Survivor Series a few years back. Give him a test run, see if he can get a few cheers, but the ultimate plan is to cement his heel status. HHH's promo on Monday definitely set the stage, too, with him taking all the credit for Evolution and Randy offering a solid rebuttal that could easily convince Flair and Batista to change sides. I could also see Flair staying with Triple H and just Batista going over to Orton, with Shelton Benjamin maybe becoming a new Evolution member. After he retains, HHH finds he doesn't have any friends anymore, Bischoff denies him a title shot based on how many times he's choked this year on the big stage, and face Trips has to earn his way back into the title scene by Wrestlemania. He could do that by winning the Rumble, but I really think this is going to be Cena's year to win the Rumble and take the title from JBL at Wrestlemania (rumors about Taker/Angle pencilled in notwithstanding).

I desperately want to see the return of E&C, just because I was a huge mark for them. I think Christian's been more successful as a single than Edge, titles notwithstanding. It should be more of an alliance than a full time tag team, maybe even making a complete stable with Trish & Tomko rounding out the group.

I think Tajiri/Rhyno will definitely go over.

Benoit/Regal vs. Flair/Batista will be a fun match at the least, even if it means nothing. I'm not sure what to do with Eugene, especially now that he seems to be getting a mixed reaction.

Trish will retain over Victoria, I imagine.

Kane will probably best HBK the first time out, just to extend the feud and let Shawn go over in a match that actually means something. The only long term interesting thing I can see out of it is that, if Shawn eventually finds a way to free Lita from Kane, a heel Matt Hardy could return, accuse Shawn of stealing his thunder, and Matt could get a nice feud to elevate himself properly without having to look like a schmuck who lets his girlfriend bang monsters and get away with it.

If there are any other matches, um...I've forgotten them and don't really care.





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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.32
I'm glad everyone likes my idea. The opening promo on Raw, pretty much showed where they were going. If you look at the match, Flair and Batista never entered the ring or even bothered to find a strategy to get HHH out of the ring. It makes sense, so they probably won't do it.

Cena should get the Rumble win since HHH already won it and Cena's title win is a bigger deal then HHH's seventh or Orton's second. Orton is getting cheers, but I think it will be a town to town deal. They did a great job with him on Monday, but he still came off too much of a dick for me. I think its risky pushing him as a face since as a heel he got heat. Putting the title on him has been a good storyline, but I don't see this being a seven month story arc.
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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.36
    Originally posted by A Fan
    I'm glad everyone likes my idea. The opening promo on Raw, pretty much showed where they were going. If you look at the match, Flair and Batista never entered the ring or even bothered to find a strategy to get HHH out of the ring. It makes sense, so they probably won't do it.


You could also note how it took forever for them to get in the ring after Orton spit in Hunter's face two weeks ago, even though they were both at ringside presumably watching what was going on and there was nobody there to stop them. I don't think it's gonna work out that way, though, I think Orton needs to stay the face and chase the title. HHH doesn't work as a face at all.



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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.21
I dont ever want to see a face Triple H ever again. The IWC and a lot of other people are just sick and tired of him and I dont see him being able to capture the crowd as a face. He is much better as the guy who you love to hate, but would hate to love.

I think the better way to have gone was drag Randy's face turn for a few more months, possible til Survivors Series or the Rumble.





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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.23
I've been saying that it should of been Evolution turning on Triple H for a while now.

After this week with Triple H saying he remade Flair you can just see the double turn happening and the next night Flair exploding in a promo.

I'M RIC FLAIR...I WAS COMING OUT OF SLUMPS WHEN YOU WERE IN DIAPERS PAL.

Plus it would be a nice excuse to get Triple H off tv for a while.

Who wouldn't like that. The double turn will happen. It's the only logical thing to do with Orton.



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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.17

The more and more I think about it ... the Evolution turn makes some sense ... maybe that's why they hotshotted the whole thing ... plus with the recent trademarking of the name "The Establishment" by WWE, makes me wonder if we're not gonna get a stable of Triple H & HBK under that name.




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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.61
"If you look at the match, Flair and Batista never entered the ring"

They were scared of the mighty sledgehammer.

"The double turn will happen."

Nuh-uh.
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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.33
Updated Card with hometowns, weights & 2004 PPV records

World Heavyweight Title Match:
Randy Orton [C: 250, St. Louis MO, 4-2] vs. Triple H [265; Greenwich CT, 2-3-1 (with Ric Flair & Batista probably)]

WWE Intercontinental Title Ladder Match:
Chris Jericho [230, Manhasset NY, 3-3] vs. Christian [224, Toronto ONT, 1-2 (with Tyson Tomko & maybe Trish Stratus)]

World Tag Team Title Match:
"La Resistance" Robert Conway & Sylvain Grenier [C: 461 combined, Province of Quebec, 1-3/1-2] vs. Rhyno & Tajiri [481, Detroit MI & Japan, 1-1/1-2]

Tag Team Match:
Chris Benoit & William Regal [469 combined, Atlanta GA & Blackpool ENG, 5-1/NA] vs. Ric Flair & Batista [552, Charlotte NC & Washington DC, 2-1/3-1]

WWE Women's Title Match:
Trish Stratus [C: Toronto ONT, 1-1 (with Tyson Tomko)] vs. Victoria [Los Angeles CA, 3-1 (with That Mystery Woman probably)]

Grudge Match:
Shawn Michaels [225, San Antonio TX, 0-3-1] vs. Kane [320, Homeless, 1-5 (with Lita)]



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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.03
Only six matches? Seems a little light, even assuming Orton/Trips goes 30-40 minutes. But there doesn't seem to be anything they can add at the last minute without dipping into the Heat fodder pool. Maybe some Divasearch crap for a time-killer?

(edited by Shem the Penman on 7.9.04 0924)


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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.31
They'll probably do an angle on Heat just to add a time filler match, like Maven v. Garrison Cade or something.



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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.97
*World Title Match
-Orton vs. HHH-- MY PICK: TRIPLE H-- I was going with Orton until this past Raw. With the very exaggerated Bischoff in HHH pocket I can see a couple of non-title switches finishes and Bischoff coming out saying NO NO NO this match must continue under thes stipulations until HHH wins.

Regal/Benoit vs. Flair/Batista-- MY PICK: RIC FLAIR & BATISTA-- Pick the established team. Plus set up Benoit vs. Batista is easier with the heels win.

-Kane vs. Shawn Michaels-- MY PICK: SHAWN MICHAELS-- Kane loses as Lita is a part of his loss. Of course the cool thing would be Lita turning heel and turning on the same man she signed on to wrestle Kane. But ain't happening.

*World Tag-Team Title Match
-La Resistance vs. Tajiri/Rhyno-- MY PICK: TAJIRI & RHYNO-- It seems like a set up win for them up until Tajiri got injured, but he looks like he's back to decent shape on Raw so I'll go with them.

*Women’s Title Match
-Stratus vs. Victoria-- MY PICK: TRISH STRATUS-- Poor Victoria, as babyface champ she didn't really get a fair shake(pardon the pun) one of the reasons is when she teamed with fellow face Lita they really booked it for Lita to look like the star & important. Now she's the babyface challenger for the PPV, the heel champ is spending 95% of her focus on Lita. It's unfortunate as Trish/Victoria feud 1 was so good, I think reverse roles feud 2 could have been good as well if they remembered who was Trish's wrestling challenger. I hope they deliever a good inspired match.

*Ic Title Match
-Jericho vs. Christian-- MY PICK: CHRIS JERICHO-- Total toss up, so much so my deciding factor was that my picks so far had one more heel winning than face so I went with the face here. I have no idea where Edge's direction is going (which might be good). Jericho might win with Edge saying he never beats him makes more sense, I think.

6 matches, strange I can't think of another match to be added. Even Mr. PPV bonus Jonathan Coachman doesn't seem to have anything that can throw him in there, unless he's going to wrestle Stacy for taking his spot on the diva search hosting duties. They are going to have a PPV match aren't they lol... This PPV is actually pretty solid for a brand only, it has potential to be as good or better than Summerslam. Not a bad little line up.



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Poor Cody Rhodes seems to have gotten the role of the sacrificial lamb. The guys seems to get fed to the babyfaces concerned while Orton and DiBiase make their escape.
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