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Now unless they make this a 3-way match for Backlash, It looks like Undertaker will again not get his chance for WWF Uni-Title. Is he still a heel anyway? When will HHH allow the "Glass Ceiling" to break? I would like to see Undertaker with the Title at least one more time.

Whatever happened to the Undertaker/Hardys Rivalry??
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Glass ceiling? In regards to The Undertaker? I don't think that's very bloody likely. If anything, 'Taker's been dismantling a lot of young guys in the last year. Remember the one-sided WCW World Tag Team Title match when Undertaker and Kane dismantled Chuck Palumbo and Sean O'Haire? Or how about his victory over Rob Van Dam for the Hardcore Title?

'Taker's a respected veteran. And to be honest, I'm not sure the glass ceiling really exists for anyone at this time. As it is, I think we're jumping to conclusions here. Just because Triple H is defending the title against Hulk Hogan at Backlash does not mean that he won't also be defending against The Undertaker. It's still too far away from Backlash to pass judgment. But I see either a triple-threat match, or a match earlier on the card between Hogan and Undertaker to determine the true #1 contender. Or Triple H could defend his title in two separate matches against Hogan and Undertaker, like Yokozuna did at WrestleManias 9 and 10.



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#3 Posted on
Maybe Hogan would will win, and then feud with Undertaker, as Undertaker is one of like 4 guys that ever beat him.



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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.37

    Originally posted by CajunMan
    Now unless they make this a 3-way match for Backlash, It looks like Undertaker will again not get his chance for WWF Uni-Title. Is he still a heel anyway? When will HHH allow the "Glass Ceiling" to break? I would like to see Undertaker with the Title at least one more time.



    Whatever happened to the Undertaker/Hardys Rivalry??



I think you will get your 3-way action.

I think Taker kicking the shit out of them ended that feud just fine.



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Nothing against 'Taker, but I think the lack of crowd interest on RAW is why they nixed that match. I certainly wouldn't buy a PPV with a HHH/Undertaker main event.

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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.01

No, come to think of it, I wouldn't buy a PPV with an HHH/Undertaker main event, either.

Even despite their incredible battle at WrestleMania X-7. Backlash would need a couple more matches to really capture my imagination-- perhaps one with a returning Chris Benoit? Time will tell.



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The sad thing is that I actually dug the UT interview from Monday, but the thought of HHH/UT as a main event is just so soul-suckingly awful I can't comprehend it. My utter lack of enthusiasm for HHH at this moment aside, the UT character is so beyond played out at this point it's hard to see him as a viable player in any top-shelf feud except maybe for somehow going against Hogan in a 1991 redux feud. I am not going to call for him to retire or any of that, but really considering he gets a big entrance pop and then crickets, I think he'd be well served to slide down into the upper midcard, and maybe give some of the rub off of his extremely successful career to some of the younger guys coming up, just the way lots of older guys gave it to him when the UT character was just starting.



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#8 Posted on
Taker and Hogan need to fight out this number one contender crap. Unfortunately, they are on different shows, so they can only meet at PPV. If you give them the match there, they would have their title match the same night. With such a full roster, you can't expect to have two matches form the same guy on the same PPV (like WMX). SO Maybe they get their title shot on TV. The match would occur on either Raw or SD! depending on who wins. Does this devalue the PPV? maybe.

If we want WRESTLING solutions to these problems, however, we have to settle for something like this. It's a logical problem of the split.

I don't think this will happen, however. Instead, I'd expect a 3-way dance... but does that mean we will have a 3-way EVERY PPV? Who's to say who the number one contender is when there are two programs each claiming to have the best contender?
This is why professional boxing has undisputed and disputed champs. Maybe Hogan gets the shot at HHH, but Flair doesn't recognize it. Hogan wins the title, but Flair says as far as he's concerned, HHH is the champ. The belts would be split once again, and LOGIC prevails (which is why I KNOW this won't happen).

Maybe they need to do a rotation. One month, Smackdown presents a number one contender. The next month, Raw gets the pick. I guess that's fair.



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#9 Posted on
Doesn't Vince OWE the Undertaker from draft day? Wouldn't Vince want the Undertaker to get a title shot? Doesn't that make sense?
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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.37

    Originally posted by asteroidboy
    Nothing against 'Taker, but I think the lack of crowd interest on RAW is why they nixed that match. I certainly wouldn't buy a PPV with a HHH/Undertaker main event.






Maybe if we could get Rocky to tell the drones to chant for the Taker we can change that.

Could I interest you in a nice HHH/Taker/Hogan 3 way of doom on a pole instead?



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#11 Posted on
$5 says it won't be a three way. another $5 says it will be taker / hhh.

$10 says this all storyline fodder for vince / flair. who has the power? who can book title matches for the ppv?

it will all turn out that linda and the board of directors make the championship matches and decide the true number one contender.

i bet this week we'll see flair hype taker and vince hype hulk, then find out taker actually gets the match the week after.



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$5 also says HHH will win at Backlash. Another $5 says Vince will do a Run-In during the HHH/Hogan match.

Add $10 that it could be very possible for "Voice of Doom" to do the run-in becuae she loves cameras.
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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.37
Apparently, The Undertaker is very unhappy with the WWF for taking him out of the main event at Backlash. The reported reason the match was changed was due to the poor reaction the crowd gave upon the match's announcement on Raw.

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When he told them "why don't you say what if you like to sleep with your own sister" did kinda quiet the crowd down didn't it?






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#14 Posted on
I figured they would be using the Undertaker as the next month's PPV. That gives them more time to build up a feud with him and HHH since HHH can't do much with Hogan on RAW. It would at least solve the problem of having two feuds going on for the Champion, with one on each show. They would just stagger the defenses month to month from RAW to Smackdown.


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#15 Posted on
Can't remember exactly where I read this (PWTorch would be my guess), but the shifting of the title match to Hogan instead of Taker (or a three way) had more to do with Kevin Nash's injury. Plans were in the works to have the NWO meet some combination of upper tier faces (Hogan, Rock, maybe Kane as well), then have Triple H and the Undertaker square off for the title belt. If you look at the booking for RAW, then the sudden swerve on Smackdown, that DOES make sense.

And on the subject of Hogan or Taker... is it just me or do NEITHER of these matches sound particularly entertaining? They're both lumbering old men who can't convincingly sell the offense that Trip would bring. Hogan VS. Taker has the nostalgia angle (the 1991 feud with Flair's interference... many possibilities on where to go with that one) that I might be persuaded to pay for. But put either one of them against Triple H and I'm suddenly wondering what else is on at 8pm on a Sunday night.

The WWF needs to decide RIGHT NOW whether to present Hogan as a wily old veteran who is a legitimate threat (via experience) to younger wrestlers... or if he's strictly on that farewell tour. If he's a threat, then for God's sakes give him his black n white back and keep Jimi's music around.

If this is for nostalgia, then face him off against those wrestlers whom it makes sense for him to face. He's already had the generational match against the Rock. I'd give him another in a program with Austin. Certainly a short feud with Taker (even if it's over the belt, if that's the only way to get them on the same TV show- I can live with that). A program with Kurt Angle might be entertaining (who is the "Real American") so long as the writers keep a certain sense of humor about it.

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#16 Posted on
seeing the triple h / hogan backlash ad on excess last night makes me change my opinion of what will happen. it could still turn into flair and hogan battling for the right to make the match (and hopefully it will) but vince will win out. there should be some tension between the brands like that, imo.

i hope they do go with taker / hunter for KOR though, title or no. it doesn't do anybody any good to abort like that.



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#17 Posted on
Here's is something:

On Backlash: Hogan beats trips. Austin 'kills' UT. On Raw, UT rises, complete with his Dead Man overcoat and "That Hat". He is granted a rematch for #1 contender, wins it. Then the Dead Man faces the Immortal One at Summerslam. It will be a retirement match as well.
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#18 Posted on
*gurk*

This is why I love the IWC. On the one hand you have guys crying out that Undertaker is stale, not over and should retire. On the other, you have guys clamouring for his return to The Dead Man, a character he played for 10 years and has all the supernatural traits people are complaining about with Kane. The man just can't win, except for CRZ's proclamations of him as Awesometaker, which he might be doing just to spite the IWC in general.

Or, like me, he's been a big UT mark ever since he saved Liz from a chairshot from Jake Roberts. 'Cause we're OLD, brother.
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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.42

    Originally posted by Ike
    *gurk*

    This is why I love the IWC. On the one hand you have guys crying out that Undertaker is stale, not over and should retire. On the other, you have guys clamouring for his return to The Dead Man, a character he played for 10 years and has all the supernatural traits people are complaining about with Kane. The man just can't win, except for CRZ's proclamations of him as Awesometaker, which he might be doing just to spite the IWC in general.

    Or, like me, he's been a big UT mark ever since he saved Liz from a chairshot from Jake Roberts. 'Cause we're OLD, brother.

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I have never said Taker needs to retire, nor have I ever wanted a return to the "old" Undertaker. I think his entire run as "American Badass" has been great.



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#20 Posted on
>I think his entire run as "American Badass" has been >great.

With reservations, yeah. Taker's had his low spots since he came back. Probably the worst was Kronik. That seemed to light a real fire under him, at least--you have to like a guy who responds to total failure with redoubled effort.

But there was a lingering drag from several half-assed feuds in a row. Remember when that rumor went around that he'd been "demoted"? That was almost certainly just a crap rumor, but it had a grain of truth in it. That was when every damn newsboard was heaping on him all the shit they could shovel. Ever since, he's been grimly working up from that low point. The heel turn opened up a lot of possibilities, and things like the program with Maven and the Flair feud did wonders. Not to mention that work ethic.

He's almost there (main-event) but not quite. I can't honestly say, even as a major Taker mark, that he's well placed for a title run yet. When I first heard the rumor of HHH vs. Taker at Backlash, I had my doubts--there just hadn't been enough buildup. Taker is definitely the slow-and-steady-wins-the-race kind, which I imagine is how he has lasted so long. Give it another month or so, I'd say, and one more good feud.

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