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Hit the wrong button and posted this too early, good job Carl. Anyway.

Randy takes another decision that will have a lot of people kind of pissed off, and Vera continues to be the world's best fighter to have no real idea how on Earth to fight. He's big, he's fast, he's a good grappler and a great thai-style kickboxer, but he just can't put it together in his head. He doesn't follow up on his knockout opportunities anymore--he had Couture dead to rights three times in that fight, and every time he got gunshy. He more lost the fight than Randy won it, frankly. All the Randy/Machida talk is shelved now pending the rematch with Shogun anyhow, but this fight really didn't seem to indicate much question as to how a superior striker who knows how to actually continue to strike could take Randy down. I imagine we'll get Randy/Tito II at some point, but after that I'm not too sure where else Couture can go.

Hardy put on a decent performance against Swick, but I find it hard to figure out what he can do to GSP that anyone else couldn't--Thiago Alves was the better and more powerful striker, Jon Fitch was the better wrestler, BJ had the better BJJ. It seems like another puncher's chance matchup, but then, 170 doesn't really have a lot of options left for GSP anyway. With the talk of GSP going out for the 2012 Olympics on the Canadian wrestling team, they may just be letting him bide his time before he goes off to do that, which would probably lead to his move up to middleweight.

And Denis Kang continues to display the prowess of a lion and the heart of a chihuahua. He looked great in the first round, but in general Kang style, once he was put in a bad spot, he folded. Points to Bisping for taking him apart as soon as the opportunity arose, but I think Joe Rogan's "THIS ANSWERS ALL THE QUESTIONS" talk was awfully premature. It'll be interesting to see how bisping keeps putting his path back together, but Kang, man...I don't know what anyone can do with Kang, at this point. Put him and Akiyama together again for big ratings in Korea, and then let him go, because whatever greatness he was supposed to be aspiring to, he doesn't seem to have it anymore.

The other big story coming out of tonight is that of the UFC heavyweight division, which apparently is pretty much dead. Shane Carwin is sidelined, as he's taking the opportunity now granted him to go get knee surgery he's needed for some time, Nogueira/Velasquez is off because Nogueira apparently has a staph infection that's leaked into his bloodstream and he's now stuck in the hospital, but in the biggest and scariest story, apparently Brock may or may not be entirely done, at least for a long while. As per TSN's http://www.tsn.ca/​mma/​story/​?​id=298377 :



    MANCHESTER - UFC heavyweight champion Brock Lesnar is seriously ill in hospital after collapsing in Canada, UFC president Dana White said Saturday.

    "He's in rough shape, he's in really bad shape," White said Saturday after UFC 105.

    "He is not well and he is not getting any better. . . . He's very, very sick and he's going to be out for a while. He's got a lot of problems."

    Citing mononucleosis, the 32-year-old Lesnar was forced to postpone a title fight against Shane Carwin scheduled for UFC 106 on Nov. 21 in Las Vegas. The fight was pushed back to UFC 108 on Jan. 2, but that too has been postponed.

    "He's got mono and he's got something else wrong with him. I know what's wrong with him, he just doesn't want me talking about it," White said.

    "He doesn't have cancer or AIDS or anything like this, (but) he's got some problems, man."



No idea what's wrong with him, but if it's that bad, it's probably...well, that bad. Horrifically unfortunate, and I hope whatever it is, he gets well soon, but from the sound of things, Lesnar may be out for quite a while, if not permanently. Awful blow for the UFC and MMA as a whole, and best wishes that it's not as serious as it sounds.

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    Originally posted by CarlCX
    Randy takes another decision that will have a lot of people kind of pissed off
Maybe I wasn't paying attention, but 29-28 didn't seem all that controversial to me. I didn't pay attention to most of this card, though - it was ON but I ended up staring at the laptop through most of it.















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    Originally posted by CRZ
      Originally posted by CarlCX
      Randy takes another decision that will have a lot of people kind of pissed off
    Maybe I wasn't paying attention, but 29-28 didn't seem all that controversial to me. I didn't pay attention to most of this card, though - it was ON but I ended up staring at the laptop through most of it.


I actually agree, don't get me wrong. Vera had a great opening salvo, but he then got controlled for the remainder of the first round, and the same story again for the third. But a combination of Couture getting dropped repeatedly, Vera crying and pouting openly, and Joe Rogan spouting off on-air about how terrible the decision was and how much work MMA judging needs has set most of the angry internet fanbase a-screaming all the usual madness about the UFC fixing the results.
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It was a bad time for UFC to have another seemingly incorrect decision, after the much more ridiculous Machida victory where I still have no idea how anyone gives Machida three rounds.

Oh wait I do, because Cecil Peoples thinks leg kicks aren't really all that bad.



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Under the guise of unfounded speculation, the two theories I've heard tonight regarding Brock are hepititis or Lyme Disease.



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    Originally posted by CRZ
    Maybe I wasn't paying attention, but 29-28 didn't seem all that controversial to me.
Me neither. I had it 29-28 Vera, but I figured the third round was close enough that it could have gone either way. I disagreed with the decision but it was hardly a big screwjob.
    Originally posted by CarlCX
    No idea what's wrong with him, but if it's that bad, it's probably...well, that bad. Horrifically unfortunate, and I hope whatever it is, he gets well soon, but from the sound of things, Lesnar may be out for quite a while, if not permanently.
Today's wrestlingobserver.com update sounded a bit more reasoned and less panicked than yesterday's:

Two things to note to ease some fears: One, whatever he has is not said to be life-threatening, although there is a possibility it could be career-threatening, or at least derail him for a long, long time. And second, whatever he has besides mono may not be as bad as people are speculating, because although he doesn't want it out what he has, he also didn't want it out that he had mono. In fact, he'd have preferred Dana never said anything about him being sick at all, but Dana I guess felt it was important to be honest with the fans about what was going on.





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    Originally posted by KJames199
    I had it 29-28 Vera, but I figured the third round was close enough that it could have gone either way. I disagreed with the decision but it was hardly a big screwjob.


Pretty much. I thought Randy dictated where the fight took place for long stretches, but he never did much with it. I'd have gone 29-28 Vera because he clearly did more damage, but I could see why it went the other way. I was more disappointed that it was just a boring fight.

Dan Hardy looked real good against Swick, but will likely get dismantled by GSP. Ross Pearson impressed me more than he did at any point on the Ultimate Fighter, but on the flip side Wilks was a disappointment.

    Originally posted by CarlCX
    Points to Bisping for taking him apart as soon as the opportunity arose, but I think Joe Rogan's "THIS ANSWERS ALL THE QUESTIONS" talk was awfully premature.


"HOUSTON ALEXANDER JUST ANSWERED AAAAAALLL THE QUESTIONS!".

Which is to say, yes, far too premature. He took a couple nice shots in there from Kang and finished him nicely when he got a chance, but Kang always seems far higher on talent than he is on heart. If you broke down the technical side of Bisping and Kang you'd be hard pushed to find an area where Bisping had the upper hand, but I still wouldn't have bet a penny on Kang winning that fight.

Poor Nog is picking up staph infections at a Cleveland Browns rate. Hopefully he, Brock and Carwin get healthy soon.
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According to a Minneapolis TV station, Brock has diverticulitis:

    Originally posted by f4w online dot com slash wrestling observer dot com
    Minneapolis station reports Lesnar's illness

    WCCO-TV, the CBS affiliate in Minneapolis, reported that Brock Lesnar has a severe case of diverticulitis, a disease often found in the large intestines which involves formation of puches on the outside of the colon that gets inflamed.

    A wire service story said Lesnar had a bacterial infection in his intestines. Dana White spoke with Lesnar today who told him that he may be released from a hospital, believed to be in Bismark, ND, shortly. He said he is encouraging Lesnar to check into the Mayo Clinic in Rochster, MN for further treatment.

    Vince McMahon secretly had the disease diverticulitis many years ago. Treatment includes no solid food and to only be fed through an IV, plus aggressive antibiotic treatment and in its most severe cases, like this one, can require surgery to remove the area of the colon infected. Surgery is usually frowned upon unless it's a very severe case. After surgery, Lesnar will likely be placed on a low fiber diet at first.

    White said today that he doesn't know if Lesnar will be able to fight again.




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Given that generation of SNL sketches, I can see why Brock wouldn't want that to be widely known.

There's a Mayo Clinic down here in Scottsdale, Brock. If you'd prefer the nicer weather.
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The ABC affiliate in Alexandria is reporting that he's back home.
    Originally posted by KSAX (ksax.com)
    Brock Lesnar Home in Alexandria Recovering from Surgery

    ALEXANDRIA, MINN. - After having surgery for a bacterial infection in his intestinal track UFC Champion Brock Lesnar is recovering at his Alexandria, Minn. home Tuesday, according to Lesnar's close friend and chiropractor Dr. Larry Novotny.

    "Brock was released from the hospital today and he is resting at home in Alexandria," said Novotny.

    According to Novotny, Lesnar spent "11 days in the hospital where he underwent several tests and a minor surgery."

    UFC President Dana White also confirmed from his Twitter account around 1 p.m. Tuesday that Lesnar had made it through surgery, and was recovering.

    "Leaving bismarck ND right now. Brock had minor surgery and is feeling better. Not 100% sure he is out of the woods but feeling better," said White via Twitter.

    Novotny would not rule out the possibility of further surgery. "The main thing is for him to begin healing and any further decisions will be based on that healing," said Novotny.

    Novotny has been in close contact with Lesnar throughout his illness and says the infection may "jeopardize" Lesnar's career.

    Although a formal statement from Lesnar has not been released, Lesnar did deliver a message through Novotny. "He wants people to know that he is getting better and contrary to some rumors that he had died, he is on the mend."

    KSAX Eyewitness News will have the full story on Lesnar's condition, including an interview with Dr. Novotny Tuesday night at 10.

    For more information on Lesnar's illness click here:

    http://ksax.com/​article/​stories/​s1256888.shtml

    Written for the Web by Anthony Kiekow
There's video at the bottom link as well, if you want to see just how small a market Alexandria is, and enjoy laughing at horrendously misspelled CG. ;-)

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