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Since: 8.7.03
From: Strongbadia

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First of all, a simple one; is the PPV this Wendesday a full-price, $30-40 PPV like the WWE puts out? Or is it the same price we're used to paying?

Second, a tougher one; what exactly is the story behind the NWA name, anways? I'm pretty sure WCW used to be associated with it, and I know that ECW "used" to be NWA (I recall it was the NWA title that Shane Douglas spit on when ECW was first created). Is it an actual federation like WWE or WCW? Is it a loose association of independent federations? Is it just whoever feels like calling themselves NWA this year? I'm somewhat baffled at the history behind it ...



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Since: 10.12.01
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1) Same as usual. This isn't the Hogan one - that's a month away - and I don't believe they'd given out a price for that yet.

2) Right now? Loose alliance of different indy promotions who all agree to work together and promote the same world champion. TNA is not really any different than that - like all the others, they're essentially paying to use the name for street cred - but they've also bought control of the world championship.

Before? Long story.

Tight alliance formed of the shards of previous alliances -> one strong promtion becoming the center -> center decides it doesn't need the NWA -> NWA and it breaking apart -> NWA reduced to what it is today



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Since: 13.5.03
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Just to note all of the "big 3" companys (WWE, WCW, ECW) came out of the NWA. From NWAWrestling.com:

*WWE:
1963: On January 24th, Lou Thesz defeats "Nature Boy" Buddy Rogers in a one fall contest in Toronto. Promoters in the Northeast U.S., however, refuse to recognize the one-fall decision and form the World Wide Wrestling Federation with Rogers as their first World Heavyweight champion. Rogers would later lose the title to Bruno Sammartino in Madison Square Garden, a rematch of their 1962 Toronto bout. The WWWF would eventually become the World Wrestling Federation [WWF].

On February 7th, Lou Thesz defeats "Nature Boy" Buddy Rogers in a return two out of three falls match in Toronto. The result has largely been forgotten in the annals of wrestling history, primarily because of the result of the first match: which was the creation of the WWWF.


*WCW:
1993: In September, WCW withdraws from the NWA over a dispute revolving around an upcoming Pay-Per-View match between Ric Flair and Rick Rude. The result has the NWA no longer recognizing Ric Flair as its champion and WCW renaming the title the WCW International title.


*ECW:
1994: Despite all the controversy with WCW in 1993, the NWA continues uninterupted as a legal entity, but without national television exposure and holds another tournament for the vacant World Heavyweight title on August 27th. Shane Douglas defeats Too Cold Scorpio in the tournament final in Philadelphia but refuses the belt saying the NWA is a dead organization; Eastern Championship Wrestling immediately announces their withdrawal from the NWA and changes their name to Extreme Championship Wrestling. On November 19th, Chris Candido defeats Tracy Smothers in yet another tournament final in Cherry Hill, New Jersey, USA to fill the vacant title.




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Since: 8.7.03
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Ahhh. Much clearer now. So who "owns" the NWA name? IE, who does TNA pay rent to?

Furthermore, does anyone know what-all was behind ECW's defection? Had this been cleared with NWA beforehand (doubtful)? Was this a conspiracy on Heyman's part to raise a bunch of hullaballoo over the creation of ECW? How long had they been planning this?



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Isn't there an "NWA Board of Directors" that they have to pay a fee to?
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Since: 13.5.03
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Yes their is a NWA BoD.

Its hard to explain but check out the NWA Message Board (which happens to also be NWA Virginia's board at this time) for the info.

EDIT: Here are some quick notes:

"In a nutshell, each NWA member promoter has/is it's own independant company and has their own designated territory in which they have exclusive rights to the NWA name. It's up to them whether or not they wish to use that name, work with other members, and share talent.

TNA is not an official member of the NWA, and therefore has no real territory. The two parties simply have an agreement that allows TNA the right to use the NWA brand name and control the World heavyweight and World tag team titles. In exchange, the NWA gets nationwide and worldwide exposure via their weekly PPV broadcasts. They recently signed a new extended deal a few months back that also contains a clause giving TNA the option to purchase the rights to the NWA name in 10 years should they still be around then."

(more as I refind them)


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Being affiliated did little to help Heyman and Gordon, so they left.

They also have some connections with ZERO-ONE (as in Hashimoto and Naoya Ogawa being NWA world champs not too long ago plus sending people back and forth.)
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