Looks like all the various LHW rankings are going to be shuffled a bit up top this week.
Griffin gets the choke-out on Shogun at 4:45 in Round 3?!! I wish I'd have seen that go down live. That's some intense, edge-of-your-seat stuff right there.
Jardine gets smoked by Houston Alexander in 48 seconds and then goes on to beat Liddell by decision. Very nice recovery for him. Chuck is going to have to change his game because apparently he's been figured out.
Random fun fact I just learned from Wikipedia: Houston Alexander is a respected leader of the undergroud hip hop scene in...
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I saw this. I'm fairly new to the world of UFC so I never really know what to expect, but I had a good time. No knockouts, but the five fights were exciting with lots of action and very little hugging. Forrest Griffin is a tremendously entertaining hillbilly. He got depressed and ate a lot of cookies and cussed in front of his mama. Keith Jardine looked like a homeless man who was happy just to be someplace warm where he might get fed - and then he won. Some dude got punched in the ass and I thought it was real funny. Good show!
I'd favour Forrest to get the next LHW title match. UFC has been waiting to cash in on the 'Forrest rises from Ultimate Fighter to a title fight' storyline, and they may as well strike while the iron is as hot as it's ever going to be. It sucks for Jardine since he beat Griffin just nine months ago, but he'll have to win another fight in order to get a title shot. Perhaps a rematch with Houston Alexander? Lyoto Machida is another guy who's right up there in contention but he'll have to get another impressive win or two to counter-act his natural boring style.
As for Chuck and Shogun, heck, why not match them up against each other for their next fights?
I watched this on PPV, and it was a great show. 4 out of the 5 fights were great (sorry, Nakamura tried to entertain us before and during his fight, but Lyoto Machida is still too boring for words). The Tyson Griffin/Thiago Tavares fight was so much fun to watch and I thought the judges made the right choice. Diego Sanchez was entertaining as well.
BUT...Forrest Griffin continues to amaze me, and he is so likeable and was such an underdog that I got into his fight with Shogun more than any other. Shogun really was spent after the first round, and Forrest took advantage. Plus, this was the only fight to not go to the judges, so that's a positive as well.
It sounds like Chuck Liddell is thinking about not fighting any more. I hope that's not the case, as he is UFC's only real superstar (with Tito Ortiz and Randy Couture right below him). Because of Chuck's doubts, I would still put him against Wanderlai, especially if that's what Chuck really wants (thus giving him motivation to keep fighting).
I agree with Big Bad that they should do Forrest/Rampage next. Sucks for Jardine, but let him rematch Houston Alexander and promise them that whoever wins that match will get the next shot at the LWH title.
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Originally posted by TorchslasherNakamura tried to entertain us before and during his fight
He had a PARASOL! I figured he had to be one bad SOB because he came out there in a flowered robe with a pink parasol like he just didn't give a fuck. Then he got beat. Oh well.
Originally posted by TorchslasherLyoto Machida is still too boring for words
The best part of Lyoto Machida is that because my friend and I are new to MMA and we don't really know these people, every time they said "Lyoto Machida," we thought they were saying "The Ultimate Cheetah" as though it was his nickname. Which it really should be.
I think Forrest and Rampage is the way to go too. If Liddell really is thinking of retiring then the interviews between Forrest and Rampage alone could propel them to the next level of popularity to try and make up for Liddell's absence. A good match would just be a bonus.
I know people would like to see Jardine get another shot at Houston Alexander but why should Alexander have to? He demolished Jardine, there hasn't been a more decisive fight all year. I don't see why Alexander should have to give Jardine a rematch, let Alexander move on to something else.
Another development from the PPV, according to MMAnews.com, is that Diego might move down a weight class.
Originally posted by KJames199The best part of Lyoto Machida is that because my friend and I are new to MMA and we don't really know these people, every time they said "Lyoto Machida," we thought they were saying "The Ultimate Cheetah" as though it was his nickname. Which it really should be.
A cheetah can finish its prey, though.
Originally posted by QuezzyI know people would like to see Jardine get another shot at Houston Alexander but why should Alexander have to? He demolished Jardine, there hasn't been a more decisive fight all year. I don't see why Alexander should have to give Jardine a rematch, let Alexander move on to something else.
IMO, the smart thing to do would be to hold off on the Alexander/Jardine rematch for at least a couple fights and use Jardine's win over Liddell as a launching pad to make him a star on the level of Forrest Griffin, THEN do the rematch. If Jardine wins in that scenario, then he looks heroic in overcoming an almost career-killing loss and redeems himself; if Alexander wins he establishes himself as a monster striker and then gives his propers to Nebraska. Much respect to the corn huskers.
Of course, it's all moot because 2007 has proven more than anything that you CAN'T BOOK MMA LONG-TERM.
Forrest/Jackson: I would think at this point it has to happen. There really isn't anybody else ready in my mind to challenge Jackson...oh, wait, Wandy needs a new opponent, doesn't he? There's your next title fight.
Liddell was/is great, has done great things for the sport, good guy, etcetera. He's done. I know people say never to count out a guy, and I'm certainly not taking anything away from Jardine's performance (which was impressive), but Liddell has gone from wholly dominant to losing a decision to a guy who has the potential to be a contender. It's certainly not his fault...I'd go into all the factors, but we'd be here awhile. But to sum up - unless your last name is Couture, age catches up to you (especially when you spend the better part of your life having a PARTYYYYYYYY), and Liddell was dominant before the new class of fighters was brought into a sport that's continuing to evolve. I do think that realistically, you can say Chuck peaked around 2004-05. Two years can be an eternity in MMA.
Diego would have to cut 15 more pounds than he's already cutting to make Lightweight. I'm not saying I doubt that story, but he's fooling himself if he thinks he can cut that much weight and still keep up with the guys in that division (who are awesome - and if he thinks he had trouble with the Welterweights, hoo boy). If Diego was smart, he'd actually just fight as his natural weight and go up a weight class. I mean, Jesus, the Middleweight Division doesn't have hardly anything going on. He'd at least get a title shot out of it.
Edit - And wait, weren't they saying that after he lost to Koscheck too?
Speaking of getting a title shot, they should just rematch Tyson Griffin and Frankie Edgar and have that be for the vacant Lightweight Championship. Regardless of the debate as to whether or not there's somebody more deserving, could anybody really complain that much if that happened?
This card as a whole was even better than it looked on paper (even if Liddell/Jardine wasn't an appealing draw for the diehards). If you missed this, shame on you. Incredible.
ASFIK, there was no streaming video/PPV of the final table. There were some live streaming audio with an animation of the hands and the pots. Listened to the first 90 minutes of heads up before I realized it was 1:30am and I didn't care THAT much.