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ShowNetworkDateRat18R
Desperate HousewivesABCSun10.25.7
HouseFOXTue7.85.6
C.S.I.: Crime Scene InvestigationCBSThu11.65.5
Grey's AnatomyABCThu9.55.4
Two And A Half MenCBSMon8.95.1
World Series, Game 4FOXSun8.54.8
World Series, Game 4 PregameFOXSun8.54.7
World Series, Game 1FOXWed8.84.5
SurvivorCBSThu7.94.4
Dancing With The Stars (Mon)ABCMon12.24.1
Criminal MindsCBSWed9.34.0
FringeFOXTue5.74.0
The OfficeNBCThu4.54.0
C.S.I. New YorkCBSWed9.23.9
Extreme Makeover: Home EditionABCSun7.33.9
How I Met Your MotherCBSMon5.73.9
Saturday Night Live: Weekend Update ThursdayNBCThu5.13.9
HeroesNBCMon5.13.9
Dancing With The Stars (Tue)ABCTue10.63.8
C.S.I. MiamiCBSMon8.73.8
World Series, Game 2FOXThu7.53.7
N.C.I.S.CBSTue10.73.6
World Series, Game 1 PregameFOXWed7.43.6
Brothers & SistersABCSun6.93.6
The MentalistCBSTue9.73.5
Law & Order: SVUNBCTue6.33.5
The Big Bang TheoryCBSMon5.83.5
Eleventh HourCBSThu8.03.2
Saturday Night College FootballABCSat6.43.2
Worst WeekCBSMon6.33.2
ERNBCThu5.73.2
Samantha Who?ABCMon7.43.0
The Amazing RaceCBSSun5.93.0
World Series, Game 3FOXSat5.73.0
Private PracticeABCWed5.53.0
The Biggest LoserNBCTue4.62.9
Cold CaseCBSSun7.72.8
Ugly BettyABCThu5.72.8
Without A TraceCBSTue7.72.7
World Series, Game 2 PregameFOXThu5.72.6
Ghost WhispererCBSFri6.52.5
The UnitCBSSun5.92.5
Life On MarsABCThu5.52.5
Gary UnmarriedCBSWed5.22.5
America's Funniest Home VideosABCSun4.92.5
ChuckNBCMon4.12.5
My Own Worst EnemyNBCMon3.72.5
Boston LegalABCMon5.82.4
The New Adventures of Old ChristineCBSWed5.32.4
My Name Is EarlNBCThu3.92.4
Prison BreakFOXMon3.62.3
60 MinutesCBSSun7.82.2
Numb3rsCBSFri6.02.2
Eli StoneABCTue5.72.2
20/20ABCFri5.22.2
Knight RiderNBCWed4.42.2
Kath & KimNBCThu3.22.2
Terminator: The Sarah Connor ChroniclesFOXMon3.22.1
America's Next Top ModelCWWed2.92.1
Dancing With The Stars Recap SpecialABCSun6.42.0
Deal Or No Deal (Wed)NBCWed4.82.0
World Series, Game 3 PregameFOXSat4.02.0
Dirty Sexy MoneyABCWed4.02.0
Pushing DaisiesABCWed3.71.9
Movie: The 40-Year-Old VirginNBCSun2.91.9
One Tree HillCWMon2.21.9
SupernannyABCFri3.41.7
Lipstick JungleNBCWed3.11.7
SmallvilleCWThu2.61.7
The Ex ListCBSFri3.81.6
Don't Forget The Lyrics!FOXFri3.41.6
LifeNBCFri3.71.5
Gossip GirlCWMon2.11.5
Deal Or No Deal (Fri)NBCFri3.91.4
48 Hours MysteryCBSSat4.31.3
Wife SwapABCFri2.81.3
SupernaturalCWThu2.11.3
CrusoeNBCFri3.71.2
Are You Smarter Than A 5th Grader?FOXFri3.71.2
StylistaCWWed1.71.2
Football Night In AmericaNBCSun1.80.8
America's Toughest JobsNBCSat1.80.7
Everybody Hates ChrisCWFri1.20.7
The GameCWFri1.20.7
PrivilegedCWTue1.10.7
ValentineCWSun0.60.3
In Harm's WayCWSun0.50.3
Easy MoneyCWSun0.40.2


* Alright, so we have our 3rd canceled/on hiatus show. Joining Do Not Disturb and Opportunity Knocks is FOX's Thursday night game show Hole In The Wall. Replacing it are reruns of Kitchen Nightmares.
* Also, NBC has announced some scheduling changes. Law & Order was originally not going to come back until "Winter 2009", when Lipstick Jungle's 13 episodes ended. However, the Wednesday and Friday timeslots are undergoing a huge upheaveal. Starting Wednesday, November 5th, the lineup is Knight Rider, Life (moving from Friday), and Law & Order. And therefore the Friday lineup is Deal Or No Deal, Crusoe, and Lipstick Jungle. In other words, banishing Lipstick Jungle (and its lackluster ratings) to the Friday night wasteland. And finally, Momma's Boys, a reality series about mothers helping their sons find a spouse, has once again been delayed. It was originally going to start October 29, then was moved to November 12, and finally isn't starting until December 16. Hopefully that's because they realized that it's a horrible premise.
* While we're talking about ratings bad enough to be canceled, let's discuss ratings in general. There are several factors that you have to consider with a show's rating. First, the only number the networks care about is the 18-49 rating. There are those who believe that that thinking is outdated giving the aging baby boomer market, but the thinking persists (with ABC placing less importance on this than the other networks). Second, the rating is dependent on the show that airs before it. In the summer time, for instance, Hell's Kitchen immediately lost 15% of their audience the week after American Idol went off the air (AI had been airing before it). Apparently 15% of the people have lost their remote control. Third, the rating is dependent on what night it airs. This most applies to Friday and Saturday. Across all broadcast networks, Friday's ratings are half of what they are on a normal day, and Saturday's ratings are about one third of what they are on a normal day. Fourth, of course the rating is dependent on the show's competition. That's why it's amazing that Grey's Anatomy, CSI, and The Office are all top 10 shows when they all run against each other. I'm curious what one of these shows would do on a less competitive night. I'm working on a way to combine all these factors into one number, but I haven't yet gotten it to work. Stay tuned.
* Last season, the shows that got a renewal on the big 4 networks needed to average about a 2.4 in the demo. The exception is reality shows, which are much cheaper to produce than scripted shows, and can therefore get by with lower ratings. With that said, here are the shows that are in trouble (with the last episode's 18-49 rating in parenthesis): Lipstick Jungle (1.7), 'Til Death (1.7), Pushing Daisies (1.9), Dirty Sexy Money (2.0), Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles (2.1), Kath & Kim (2.2), Knight Rider (2.2), Eli Stone (2.2). Both Terminator and Knight Rider are especially worrisome because as sci-fi shows, they're more expensive than the average show. If you're a fan of any of these shows, you might want to recruit others to watch it (or prepare for the impending cancellation). I'm going to give the Friday shows a pass this week, but Crusoe isn't looking good.
* Hey, 30 Rock comes back this week.
* The World Series isn't over yet, so FOX has games on Monday, (and if necessary) Wednesday, and Thursday.
* CBS' Monday lineup is all reruns. I don't know why. Other reruns this week include Fringe on FOX, as well as any shows that air on FOX should the World Series not make it to 7 games.
* On Tuesday at 8 pm, CBS is showing It's The Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown. The airing last year did a 3.8 rating among adults 18-49, which should be enough to put it in the top 25 shows next week.
* On Wednesday, CBS, FOX, and NBC are prempting their lineup so that they can air a Barack Obama Political Message. The New Adventures of Old Christine moves to 8:30 Eastern, while Gary Unmarried and Knight Rider are both prempted this week. If the World Series is still on, it will also be delayed to an 8:30 start. Deal Or No Deal is also a special 90-minute episode to compensate for the available time. It sounded like ABC was totally willing to take the money as well (reports are that it was $1 million per network), but they couldn't figure out what to air in the half hour from 8:30 to 9:00, as all their Wednesday shows are hour-long.
* MyNetwork is showing The Rocky Horror Picture Show on Thursday night. That's going to be edited so much that it'll make even less sense then it normally does, I imagine.
* The Saturday Night Football games are Texas vs. Texas Tech and Nebraska vs. Oklahoma, I believe.
* America's Funniest Home Videos is only 30 minutes this Sunday because of the DICKIES 500, the next race in NASCAR's Chase For the Cup.
* The Sunday Night Football game is New England vs Indianapolis.
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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.87
I'm sure FOX is pleased as punch that the World Series got curbstomped by CBS on Thursday, and then Big Ten'd on Saturday. Between the old people in Tampa and the split fans in Pennsylvania, this really isn't working too well.

Perhaps Criminal Minds should be America's new pasttime.
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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.16
    Originally posted by Super Shane Spear
    I'm sure FOX is pleased as punch that the World Series got curbstomped by CBS on Thursday, and then Big Ten'd on Saturday. Between the old people in Tampa and the split fans in Pennsylvania, this really isn't working too well.

    Perhaps Criminal Minds should be America's new pasttime.

How much of this is due to the fact that ESPN and FOX have spent most of this decade making sure everyone knows the only baseball games that really matter involve either the Red Sox, Yankees or Cubs? Much like the NBA suffered post-Jordan era due to the marketing of MJ above all other things, so MLB suffers when one of the chosen three aren't able to advance. It's great for them in the regular season, when they can make some essentially meaningless Red Sox game important simply because its the Red Sox, but it comes back to bite them in October if some other team has the temerity to advance.



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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.36
Also, the games not starting until 10PM and running into like, 1 AM can't help matters any.
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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.02
    Originally posted by Mr. Boffo

    * Last season, the shows that got a renewal on the big 4 networks needed to average about a 2.4 in the demo. The exception is reality shows, which are much cheaper to produce than scripted shows, and can therefore get by with lower ratings. With that said, here are the shows that are in trouble (with the last episode's 18-49 rating in parenthesis): Lipstick Jungle (1.7), 'Til Death (1.7), Pushing Daisies (1.9), Dirty Sexy Money (2.0), Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles (2.1), Kath & Kim (2.2), Knight Rider (2.2), Eli Stone (2.2). Both Terminator and Knight Rider are especially worrisome because as sci-fi shows, they're more expensive than the average show. If you're a fan of any of these shows, you might want to recruit others to watch it (or prepare for the impending cancellation). I'm going to give the Friday shows a pass this week, but Crusoe isn't looking good.


Damn...Eli Stone is the best damn thing on television. Come on, people, support it! Dirty Sexy Money is a good show when the older generation (Sutherland/Clayburgh/Krause/Underwood) is onscreen and a lousy one when the Darling kids are on--the fact that they Chuck Cunninghammed one of the kids was a good sign, but I won't really mind if it goes. I don't care at all about Terminator except I know my Dad would be really bummed, so for his sake I hope it lives.

Tnanks for the analysis; it does help in making sense of all this. (I remember the days where you needed a 20 to survive!)
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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.00
Knight Rider and Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles are going to stick around for a little while.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3ia353f77f11f28ab973f4c073ae33f212



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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.56
It kills me to see Pushing Daisies continue to struggle so much in the ratings. It's such a great show.
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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081028/ap_en_tv/tv_ex_list;_ylt=AgG4QGziMDYEEzGC.7dXF6ys0NUE

Add "The Ex List" to the list of ex-shows. It's being yanked and a rerun of NCIS will air in it's slot Friday.



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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.49

I was enjoying that show, but I knew it was doomed.



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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.03
    Originally posted by Mr. Boffo
    FOX's Thursday night game show Hole In The Wall. Replacing it are reruns of Kitchen Nightmares.


Wow, so taking a concept that - at best - should serve as a two minute segment on an episode of "Super Sloppy Double Dare" and trying to stretch it out into a full 30 minutes failed? I'm shocked.



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The most hilarious thing about Tommy Dreamer is that everyone else in WWE, from Shelton Benjamin to dudes who haven't even debuted yet, has a T-shirt available. WWE doesn't even bother printing up a T-shirt for Tommy Dreamer, A MAN WHOSE GIMMICK IS WEARING A T-SHIRT WHILE WRESTLING. And why is that? Because not a god damn person would ever pay money for a Tommy Dreamer shirt. Not even his own mother. As a result he usually ends up wearing a shirt that says "WRESTLEMANIA 24" or "JUDGEMENT DAY." I think it's time for Tommy Dreamer to just print up a T-shirt that says "UPCOMING PAY PER VIEW"

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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.63
Also also on hiatus, FOX's 'Til Death. In retrospect, the last airing was on October 8th, but they kept it hidden from us because the last 3 weeks it's been preempted by baseball. You're seeing this rash of shows on hiatus because the November sweeps start today, and run through Wednesday, November 26th. If the networks can get more from a rerun of a more popular show (like FOX showing reruns of House on Wednesdays) rather than a new episode of some other show, you're not going to see that other show on the air during sweeps.

    Originally posted by Alessandro

    Wow, so taking a concept that - at best - should serve as a two minute segment on an episode of "Super Sloppy Double Dare" and trying to stretch it out into a full 30 minutes failed? I'm shocked.

I still maintain that the problem with that show was the announcers, as well as the pace. They went through like 6 walls in a half hour. Less time talking, more time going through walls!

    Originally posted by Peter The Hegemon

    (I remember the days where you needed a 20 to survive!)

I could see that in the pre-cable days. What a lot of people are not aware of is that the ratings are actually percentages. 12.2% of all households watched Dancing With the Stars on Monday (but only 4.1% of adults 18-49).
With the proliferation of digital cable, you've got hundreds of channels to choose from (not to mention all the people who aren't spending their night watching TV). As such, 5% of the possible audience is pretty darn good.

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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.01

I liked watching Hole in the Wall when it was a Japanese game show, because, well, it was a wacky Japanese game show.

In the states, where I could understand the inane commentary, it was not as fun.



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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081101/ap_on_en_tv/tv_king_of_the_hill;_ylt=AtUr9J7QBUgW45SEaxT.ThCs0NUE

Now it's being reported that King of the Hill has been canceled. I vaguely remember them doing a final season about 3 years ago and that changed...



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