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Ike
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Having watched the Brazil / Turkey match on the replay today, I will say the following:

Was the penalty shot a miscall? Yes, but Turkey deserved it after all the diving they did in the game. At least twice there were TWO Turkish players on the pitch writhing in pain until they realized they weren't going to get the call, so they got up like nothing happened.

Mind you, I'm not so happy with Rivaldo either for clutching his face and falling to the ground after taking a second to realize that the ball hit him in the... leg.

This overselling is rivaling Rocky's worst performances in the ring, I tell you.

Ike



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Reading your second paragraph I was all ready to bring out the "hypocrite" card, but you saved yourself on the third paragraph...lol

I thought the Brazilian guy got shot in the head I swear, my heart jumped seeing him on the ground in so much pain. I really think he should be punished, it was sick the overacting... I love my Dad who's portuguesse and has a soft spot for Brazil giving excuses in "well the ball shouldn't be kicked to him" I'm like "DAD HE ACTED LIKE HE WAS SHOT", LOL... I truly think soccer fans don't worry to much when they see stuff like this because they are so used to seeing it, while a casual world cup fan like myself is more disgusted witht he diving.

As for bad acting. I thought Rivaldo did an amazing job, fooled me. fooled the ref and he gave the Turkish guy a red card. I'm sure if it was Ben Afflick doing that acting the Turkish guy would only get a yellow card
I actually heard rumors that they might punish Rivaldo "maybe a yellow", I think they should



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Apparently FIFA is reviewing the whole Rivaldo thing.

What's unbelievable is this: He got hit with a soccer ball. Even if he did get hit in the face, THAT'S WHAT HE DOES ALL GAME LONG-continually makes physical contact with the ball-head, chest, knees, feet, etc.

Soccer balls do not hurt. At the worst, they can sting a bit. They do not feel like wrecking balls.

That lone play put Brazil in my "do not want them to win" category. Just pathetic.
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The ejection was justified regardless of how much flare Rivaldo put on the situation, as kicking the ball at someone like that is a pretty extreme case of unsporty behavior.

Rivaldo SHOULD have been shown the yellow for his dive during the game. Even if the referee did not see it, the assistant referees and the fourth official are there to inform him of such things. However, it didn't happen. FIFA can do whatever they want with him about it, but they should also levy a punishment against the officials if they choose to do so.



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Now THAT is delving into some bad territory. A soccer referee, perhaps more that any other sporting official (okay, maybe hockey) has to go by his own judgement - sometimes from up to 50 yards away. If FIFA's judgement is different, fine, but unless there was some deliberate cheating by the ref going on you can't punish him for it.

I was a baseball umpire for a while and let me tell you, you CAN'T get every call right. It's impossible. You just hope you don't blow it during a big game. That goes for officials in every sport where one person's judgement is needed.

Believe me they don't need the added pressure of "If I screw up, I'm going to get fined".

Anyway, I thought diving was an accepted part of the game by now. Are there any rules against it?

Oh, and Goon, two things:

1) Sorry for confusing you with BrewGuy in another thread.
2) Catching a soccer ball full in the nose is miles different from hitting it with your forehead or other place where you're supposed to hit it. It hurts.

Ike



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I was slightly exaggerating about the punishment against the refs. I was more referring to a warning from FIFA to pay more attention to calls involving diving.

The point was, it's up to them to see what Rivaldo had done. By levying a punishment against him (he got fined), FIFA's basicly saying that the referees didn't do their job, especially considering they've been told to crack down on "simulation of fouls." If they feel the need to do the refs' jobs for them, something's up with that.



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