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http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ys-bushheisman090710

I think this kind of sucks that they are going to penalize him like this, What is next? Will they take away S.C.'s national championships too? Just pretend it never happened?
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I think if they are soon to take away Bush's Heisman and did put some really stiff penalties on USC's program, taking away their championships will probably be inevitable.

In relation to USC and what will probably happen to their championships, like Triple H said, "It never happened".

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I understand penalizing USC because they turned a blind eye while Bush took illegal benefits. But what I don't understand is that the Heisman is supposed to be a performance-based award. Nothing Bush did enhanced his performance on the field, so how is taking this award away from him fair?

And this question is coming from an admitted USC-hater who would love to see Lane Kiffin sent out of town on a rail.




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This is how the Heisman Trust describes their award


    The outstanding college football player whose performance best exhibits the pursuit of excellence with integrity.


They didn't bold it, but they probably would when explaining why they're taking the award back.



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    Originally posted by It's False
    I understand penalizing USC because they turned a blind eye while Bush took illegal benefits. But what I don't understand is that the Heisman is supposed to be a performance-based award. Nothing Bush did enhanced his performance on the field, so how is taking this award away from him fair?

    And this question is coming from an admitted USC-hater who would love to see Lane Kiffin sent out of town on a rail.

If he was an ineligible player, then you have to say that he can't be awarded for anything he did would be my guess. Kind of like if Peyton Manning put on a fake mustache and went back to UT for a season and put up huge numbers, won the Heisman, then revealed his ruse.



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    Originally posted by spf
      Originally posted by It's False
      I understand penalizing USC because they turned a blind eye while Bush took illegal benefits. But what I don't understand is that the Heisman is supposed to be a performance-based award. Nothing Bush did enhanced his performance on the field, so how is taking this award away from him fair?

      And this question is coming from an admitted USC-hater who would love to see Lane Kiffin sent out of town on a rail.

    If he was an ineligible player, then you have to say that he can't be awarded for anything he did would be my guess. Kind of like if Peyton Manning put on a fake mustache and went back to UT for a season and put up huge numbers, won the Heisman, then revealed his ruse.


Emphasis mine in your quote. He was ineligible, which is why USC has to vacate every game he played and since he was ineligible, he couldn't even be in the running for the Heisman.



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Today on Around the Horn Woody Paige quoted (or maybe just paraphrased?) the Heisman guidelines that stated the Heisman winner had to be a college-eligible athlete.

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    Originally posted by thecubsfan
    This is how the Heisman Trust describes their award


      The outstanding college football player whose performance best exhibits the pursuit of excellence with integrity.


    They didn't bold it, but they probably would when explaining why they're taking the award back.


And that's the problem I have with this. I'm not defending Reggie Bush; he does deserve to be punished in some way for his actions. But does he deserve a stiffer punishment than say, one OJ Simpson? Simpson (who let's forget if he did murder Nicole Brown and Robert Goldman, still was involved in numberous legal problems afterward and was convicted of robbery and kidnapping, gets to keep his while Bush has his taken away? If the trust has worries with Bush threatening the integrity of the trophy, shouldn't they had even bigger worries with OJ? What makes them act so harsh towards Bush that he's likely to be the 1st one to lose his trophy instead of Simpson?






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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.34
    Originally posted by supersalvadoran


    And that's the problem I have with this. I'm not defending Reggie Bush; he does deserve to be punished in some way for his actions. But does he deserve a stiffer punishment than say, one OJ Simpson? Simpson (who let's forget if he did murder Nicole Brown and Robert Goldman, still was involved in numberous legal problems afterward and was convicted of robbery and kidnapping, gets to keep his while Bush has his taken away? If the trust has worries with Bush threatening the integrity of the trophy, shouldn't they had even bigger worries with OJ? What makes them act so harsh towards Bush that he's likely to be the 1st one to lose his trophy instead of Simpson?


OJ never lost his eligibility. I get what you're saying, about his off the field stuff, but he was still eligible to play the year he got his trophy.



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I'm sure Reggie Bush will cry about this all the way to his next (massive) payday.



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    Originally posted by ekedolphin
    I'm sure Reggie Bush will cry about this all the way to his next (massive) payday.


hee hee I rea this as next massive playboy, like the girls he dates, anyways as a big USC fan I think it is unfair kinda; yes we cheated but who doesn't



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You got caught. That's the difference. It's like the old saying: "Win if you can, lose if you must but always cheat"



.....especially against Alabama. Fuck them.
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