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Since: 9.8.02 From: england
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| #1 Posted on 10.8.02 2327.43 |
So it looks like Hogan didn't make the Australian tour over money, while JR says hogan at his age and back condition couldnt make the flight/ I hope there is nothing to the rumours of trouble over payoffs, Hogan is a legend, but not really a main eventer anymore and he already has more cash than he will ever need. If buisness is down so will be the payoffs, but if the tour is a sellout should the pay increase?.
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| #2 Posted on 10.8.02 2356.44 | No to everything you said.
Also, no to everything you will say.
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| #3 Posted on 11.8.02 0017.29 | Now THAT's a rebuttal.
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| #4 Posted on 11.8.02 0048.14 | Best that I can tell Vince wanted Hogan to do things unspecified in Hogan's contract (additional flight hours) and Hogan wanted to be compensated for the unspecified work. He had every legal right to refuse to do that. And while the smart-mark spin will be that Hogan doesn't care about the fans, I feel that if Vince was so pro-Aussie, he would have just forked over the dough. What's he worth 750 million in personal monies? Make a hundred grand withdrawal, asshole, it won't kill ya.
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| #5 Posted on 11.8.02 0350.31 | He didn't go for two reasons.
1) Back and Knee problems. He would've been in an exceptional amount of pain making the 19 hour flight to Oz. He was given time to rest them, hence Brock putting him out.
2) His 49th Birthday
Source: Dave Meltzer
(edited by Mild Mannered Madman on 11.8.02 0151)
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| #6 Posted on 11.8.02 0449.18 |
But if the money was good, I bet the hulkster would have jumped on the plane. He must have worked on his birthday many times before, or maybe he now realises that at this stage off his career that family and health come first.
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| #7 Posted on 11.8.02 0551.40 |
Originally posted by SmooveK No to everything you said.
Also, no to everything you will say.
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| #8 Posted on 11.8.02 1107.14 |
Originally posted by ja c
But if the money was good, I bet the hulkster would have jumped on the plane. He must have worked on his birthday many times before, or maybe he now realises that at this stage off his career that family and health come first.
With all the years of wrestling behind him plus a couple of B-level movies, Hogan has more money than he will ever need.
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| #9 Posted on 11.8.02 1440.17 | Instant Rating: 0.00 | I agree.... Hogan has done the years of wrestling on special personal occasions.... let him take the time when he needs it.
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| #10 Posted on 11.8.02 1533.19 | A little off the mark here, but not worth it's own thread. I would love to know about Hogan's non-DQ jobs. How many times since winning the belt from the Sheik before his current stint? I'm no historian, but I remember Andre, Warrior, Undertaker, Goldberg, Kidman, Sting when he came out in street clothes and laid down. There must be more- my memory is a little spotty and I didn't see his late WWF and early WCW days. Did Flair ever pin him?
My point is compare that to his jobs in the past 6 months- Rocky, Taker, Angle, Brock, HHH in a rematch? Okay, my statistics are way off as I'm exhausted and could be forgetting lots, but- is it possible that Hogan will job more in 2002 than in the 18-20 previous years combined?
Sorry if this makes no sense. I'll check agian after a nap.
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| #11 Posted on 12.8.02 0540.58 |
I think Flair beat Hogan at an Uncensored PPV once. Hogan has probably lost cleanly and put more guys over since his return in Feb than his entire WWF and WCW stints, if only he had done this in 1999 WCW might still be going. Can anyone else recall Hogan losing clean in the WWF, apart from the warrior match at Wrestlemania?.
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| #12 Posted on 12.8.02 0835.06 |
Originally posted by ja c
I think Flair beat Hogan at an Uncensored PPV once. Hogan has probably lost cleanly and put more guys over since his return in Feb than his entire WWF and WCW stints, if only he had done this in 1999 WCW might still be going. Can anyone else recall Hogan losing clean in the WWF, apart from the warrior match at Wrestlemania?.
Once Hogan was wrestling the Genius when Mr. Perfect accidently tripped into Hogan with Genius' scroll letting Genius win by count-out. Since we know Perfect would never have cheated, it was clean.
Cause' here me and KG come naked, out of the side hatch, with the oils and perfumes, and incense!
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| #13 Posted on 12.8.02 0849.30 |
I remember the Genius match, and since I am such a Mr.Perfect mark, I will agree and say that he would never cheat, so therfore yes the Genius beat Hogan clean.
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| #14 Posted on 14.8.02 2040.51 | Accordin to 1wrestling.com, there does indeed look to be trouble in paradise between Hulk Hogan and Vince Mcmahon. The bottom line, as it always has and will continue to come down to in wrestling is the money. I hope we havent seen the last of the real american.
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| #15 Posted on 14.8.02 2218.52 | I am suprised to say this since I hated him in WCW but I like Hogan now. He is putting more effort in now then he has since probably 89. Basicly the man has been on cruise control ever since the whole UT double switch. Not that he is a technical geniuos still but he is trying now.
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| #16 Posted on 15.8.02 0158.05 | Whoa!! I can't belive Hogan's 49. I thought He was like 60 something.
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| #17 Posted on 15.8.02 0214.15 | Yeah, Hogan's ONLY 49. Really he's not that old. But, I think the ever present orange glow has taken it's toll on his skin making him look ten years older.
Also, anything you read on almost ANY wrestling website is probably wrong (granted there are some where the guy is mostly right but it's never 100 percent). Don't believe the hype. Period.
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| #18 Posted on 15.8.02 0235.20 | A week ago, a story "leaked" that Matt Hardy was getting in trouble for suggesting things backstage to people and being upset with the Creative team, which was mad at him as a result.. after that startling revelation, Matt Hardy then appeared on two straight shows of Raw, first coming an inch away from winning the Tag Titles, and then the show after, suggesting things backstage to Eric Bischoff because he's upset with how he's being handled, and having Eric get mad at him as a result. Hmm. Could it be that, possibly, they leaked the story purposely to get some people all in a tizzy, then turn it into an on-air storyline?
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| #19 Posted on 15.8.02 0628.38 | If that's the case (probably not, though) then that would lead to the heavily rumored Hogan-McMahon match at Wrestlemania X-9.
(edited by tomvejada on 15.8.02 0430)
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| #20 Posted on 15.8.02 1029.29 | SOK (hailing from Calgary, AB), quietly says:
Originally posted by Dahak I am suprised to say this since I hated him in WCW but I like Hogan now. He is putting more effort in now then he has since probably 89. Basicly the man has been on cruise control ever since the whole UT double switch. Not that he is a technical geniuos still but he is trying now.
I've never been a huge fan of Hogan until now. I like him because he's working with the younger talent and he's (gasp!) losing matches cleanly. I doubt he's even complaining! X-Pac, you reading? Good.
Hogan's loaded. For sure. He doesn't have to wrestle if he doesn't want to. I believe he's there still because he can lend his experience to the product and to the younger stars and help elevate talent. he hasn't held anyone down, as far as I can see. Aside from his title reign (which was short, thank goodness) he's doing what he should -- being a normal wrestler.
Hogan the main eventer? No thanks. Hogan the midcarder works really well for me.
And onto this bit of nostalgia...
Originally posted by ja c
I remember the Genius match, and since I am such a Mr.Perfect mark, I will agree and say that he would never cheat, so therfore yes the Genius beat Hogan clean.
Wasn't that when Mr. Perfect destroyed the championship belt ringside with a hammer?
And yes, the Genius would never cheat. He's too smart for that!
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