Triple H said last night that he headlined more PPVs and he is correct, but it is close. Triple H has 20, HBK has 17. For Triple H, I counted the 6/97 King of the Ring because it was the final match of the night. And I counted Wrestlemania 18, even though it can be argued that the real main event was Hogan/Rock. I didn’t count the England PPVs, but if you want to, just add 1 for HBK and add 3 for Triple H. Interesting to note the HBK has headlined 3 Manias compared to 1.5 for Triple H. And HBK has more success in Royal Rumbles.
Triple H had 5 Championship runs compared to 3 for HBK. This may lead you to believe that Triple H spent more time as the champion. However this is not the case. If you total the amount of time each wrestler spent as the Champ it equals 257 days for Triple H and 402 for Shawn Michaels. Many people forget that HBKs first title run lasted around 8 months. This is the longest title run in the last 7 years.
Originally posted by CajunManWho cares? Everyone knows HHH will do the job at Summerslam!
This is one of those times I hate knowing the concept "putting the younger guys over."
"YOU WANT A PIECE OF ME?" - The chilling words of the Shockmaster!
"Here comes Charles Benoit, and he's really mad.....Charles Benoit is here, and he's FUCKING CRAZY"- T.R. on the barbecued cat thread (it's too terrible to link)
THE AWESOME UNDERTAKER drives out - damn, how did those STEEL steps rise up onto their ends and out of the way of - hey wait, I see DUDES there! They must be soulless minions of Big Evil's Red Devil Underwood Deviled Ham Team Evil. What? - CRZ, back to his old antics
"This is one of those times I hate knowing the concept "putting the younger guys over.""
Old School's Film Quote O' The Week-"This story's gonna grab people! It's about this guy, he's crazy about this girl, but he likes to wear dresses. Should he tell her? Should he not tell her!? He's torn, Georgie! This is drama!" -Jonny Depp as Edward D. Wood, Jr. in Ed Wood. Or is it Vince Russo upon his triumphant return to WWE-Land?
No way Hunter loses this match. They're gonna use the fan-sympathetic HBK character to get Hunter over as a mega-heel again... it's the same thing they did with Mick Foley. Destroying Mick's dreams of being champ/ main-eventing Wrestlemania (even though Linda brought him back) really made Triple H seem like an asshole.
As much as i want to see HBK go over HHH... i dont think it will happen. Feels like this is it for HBK. I would like to see him go out with a win.... but it's going to be used to supposedly "put" triple H over. I would like to see a surprise though.
I've torn myself apart.... and tried to figure out why... but the only answer i was ever given... that really fits..... is the fact... that women are crazy.
Jesse Ventura:"He just hit him with the belt, thats a disqualifaction!, where the hell is the referee?." Tony Schiavone:"But that's on the outside of the ring Jesse". Jesse Ventura:"So what?, what are you going to tell me Schiavone, you can shoot somebody outside of the ring, as long as it's outside the ring?, you are even dumber than Monsoon, I thought Gorilla was the stupidest man alive!." Warrior Rude at SummerSlam '89'
Originally posted by SerWolfe I would like to see him go out with a win.... but it's going to be used to supposedly "put" triple H over.
Seems like people sure do that a lot for ol' HHH don't they? I know the HHH fan-boys will have their usual set of reasons why this too really isn't HHH being given far more push than anyone else gets or somehow try to justify the amount of push given to him, but really isn't retiring one legend enough for a career? Is there no one in the WWE who could benefit more from putting HBK into retirement than Hunter? Wouldn't the destruction of HBK by Lesnar do far more for his character and his drawing power than yet another in the seemingly endless string of feuds won by HHH is going to do for anyone? I know it's seen as passe by some to speak ill of HHH, but really, something is wrong here. I don't know if its HHH is a fine politician, or just good in bed, or if he just sits backstage quietly and waits for his assignments, but someone has really come up with some odd ideas about how best to book HHH, either Steph or Vince or HHH or somebody.
And the worst part is that really the only wise booking is to have HHH go over HBK, now that they've booked themselves into this position. It's worked out so that they either have the old crippled retiree go over their top heel, or HHH gets to have another huge feather in his cap. Way to go WWE. Only you guys could make yet another HHH victory look like the only right booking call.
(edited by spf2119 on 14.8.02 0450) You never know when you'll meet that special someone... the someone that's mysteriously blind to your flaws. or, you know, stupid enough not to realize that yes, you really are that cynical.
Originally posted by humanmealTherefore: Must revive the 'No shots to the face' stip from Summer Slam 1992!
Oh, man, that's when Michaels was so cool. And Martel, for that matter. That match confused the hell out of me at the time -- I'd never seen a heel-vs.-heel match before. I thought it was against the rules.
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Originally posted by skorpio17Triple H said last night that he headlined more PPVs and he is correct, but it is close. Triple H has 20, HBK has 17. For Triple H, I counted the 6/97 King of the Ring because it was the final match of the night.
Actually, wasn't the Undertaker vs Faarooq for the WWF Title the final match of the night?
This is getting tougher than I thought. The 6/97 King of the Ring could be counted for Triple H, since he won the tournament. The title match was Undertaker/Farooq, which I don't believe was a heavily promoted match. It also had HBK/Austin which was the most hyped match, but had a screwjob ending and didn't have the main event feel.
I counted WM 11 for HBK/Diesel, even though Bam Bam vs. LT was the last match on the night. I'd like to check the video box for WM 11. Whoever it shows on the cover, I'd give credit for the main event.
Originally posted by skorpio17This is getting tougher than I thought. The 6/97 King of the Ring could be counted for Triple H, since he won the tournament.
So, Billy Gunn vs X-Pac and Mabel vs Savio Vega were main events?
It really depends on how the finals are promoted, true, but there was no strong uppercard at KOTR '97, so I'd give the only "main event" nod to the Title match (UT vs Faarooq) and HBK-Austin as semi-main at best.
It is true that we had Bret Hart vs Bam Bam Bigelow headline the first KOTR PPV, but that's an extreme rarity. In fact, I don't think it's happened again in the 10 KOTR PPVs we've had.
But, hey, it's your statistical analysis, so I won't be a dick about it. :)
I'm in favor of bringing back 1 secondary belt per show, but I wouldn't bring back the US and IC titles. After the last few years of those belts, there importance diminished significantly. Thus the idea for the two new titles: RAW: Cable Champion.