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Any buzz on this one?



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Can't wait. They've been doing some pretty good trash-talking, with Mayorga saying he's going to retire Trinidad for good and Trinidad wanting to shut Mayorga up. Mayorga claims he's going to let Tito hit him with his best shot (a la Vernon Forrest) then knock him out. Should be a great one.

Also, if you're not wanting to shell out the $55 for Tito-Mayorga, there's a card on (free) Showtime that night as well, with two good fights and the return of Wladimir Klitschko.



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There's a really big buzz here, as the fight's in MSG and Tito's almost a god among the Puerto Ricans here.

As far as the matchup goes, the buzz is that it should be a good fight because both fighters are somewhat unknown commidities. Mayorga's always a wild card, and he's moving up two weight classes, which is almost unheard of. He's got a great chin, but does he have it for a GREAT puncher 13-pounds over anyone he's fought before?Tito's coming off a two-year hiatus and nobody really knows what kind of shape he's in or where his head's at. Plus he's never really fought someone with Mayorga's brawling style before.

My heart says Mayorga, but my head says Tito. Tito's only been beat (this inludes the De La Hoya fight) by a skilled boxer with a disciplined game plan that emphasised defence. This isn't exactly how one would describe Mayorga. Plus I don't care how tough the guy is, Tito's got enough power to put down a heavyweight, much less a really-blown-up 147-pounder. I think Mayorga's only chance (other than if Tito ends up pulling a Roy Jones Jr. after his layoff) is for his style to confuse and frustrate Tito enough that he looks good enough to steal the rounds even though he's actually landing less and boxing worse than Tito - kind of like Forrest II. Of course, that's also predicated on him avoiding a clean knockout shot for 12-rounds.

My call is Tito by KO. Mayorga's never had any defence, and while you can't question his chin and his heart, it's simply not enough to stand up to Tito's power. If he tries that "come on and hit me with your best shot, motherfucker" shit he tried against Forrest, Tito'll knock his head into the 8th row.

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    Originally posted by MoeGates
    There's a really big buzz here, as the fight's in MSG and Tito's almost a god among the Puerto Ricans here.

    As far as the matchup goes, the buzz is that it should be a good fight because both fighters are somewhat unknown commidities. Mayorga's always a wild card, and he's moving up two weight classes, which is almost unheard of. He's got a great chin, but does he have it for a GREAT puncher 13-pounds over anyone he's fought before?Tito's coming off a two-year hiatus and nobody really knows what kind of shape he's in or where his head's at. Plus he's never really fought someone with Mayorga's brawling style before.

    My heart says Mayorga, but my head says Tito. Tito's only been beat (this inludes the De La Hoya fight) by a skilled boxer with a disciplined game plan that emphasised defence. This isn't exactly how one would describe Mayorga. Plus I don't care how tough the guy is, Tito's got enough power to put down a heavyweight, much less a really-blown-up 147-pounder. I think Mayorga's only chance (other than if Tito ends up pulling a Roy Jones Jr. after his layoff) is for his style to confuse and frustrate Tito enough that he looks good enough to steal the rounds even though he's actually landing less and boxing worse than Tito - kind of like Forrest II. Of course, that's also predicated on him avoiding a clean knockout shot for 12-rounds.

    My call is Tito by KO. Mayorga's never had any defence, and while you can't question his chin and his heart, it's simply not enough to stand up to Tito's power. If he tries that "come on and hit me with your best shot, motherfucker" shit he tried against Forrest, Tito'll knock his head into the 8th row.

    (edited by MoeGates on 1.10.04 2012)





Mayorga is just a bomber who just wings punches. Trinidad took the beating of a lifetime from Hopkins, he is shot. God or not, these two will pick up the scraps at 160 after Hopkins retires



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The whole island is ready for this fight, along with Cotto and other new comers, the boxing fans are feeling this could be a new golden era in Puerto Rican boxing. As for the trash talk, they both bet 100,000 of their share to who ever wins, it was supposed to be a million, but they talked it down to 100,000. I am worried about the hard punches of Mayorga, one blow can end the fight, but I gotta go with Tito by TKO in the 10th.



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Yes, Hopkins gave Trinidad the beating of a lifetime, but Mayorga is hardly a Bernard Hopkins. As Moe pointed out, I just can't see El Matador coming up two weight classes and really being able to bomb with a guy like Tito. It'll be one hell of a war, though.

Interestingly enough, unless Tito absolutely murders Mayorga, I don't think this will really damage Ricardo very much as a fighter. He's still one of the most entertaining guys out there... losing to one of the true greats of the last decade, two weight classes higher than your optimum -- he can still drop back down and contend against Spinks as a welterweight. That's a rematch I'd like to see (and one he deserves).

Which might be the best result we can hope for. Because if Trinidad loses, that means one less marquee guy to really get jazzed up about on a Saturday night!
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    Originally posted by JayJayDean
    Mayorga claims he's going to let Tito hit him with his best shot (a la Vernon Forrest) then knock him out.


I guess that strategy didn't work out so well. I didn't realize that Trinidad hadn't boxed in 2 1/2 years!




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Apparently those 2 1/2 years didn't rust him very much, eh? One hell of a fight, that was!

Guess Tito lines up for one of Vargas, De la Hoya, or Hopkins... I'd like to see him take Vargas again, then rematch Hopkins. Not much interest in seeing the Golden Boy fight again.

As for Mayorga, well, he lost to a guy who outweighs him (normally) by 15 pounds. He'll fall back down to Welter, and I really hope fight Zah Judah to determine who gets a rematch with Spinks for the title

Some excellent looking fights on the horizon, that's for sure!
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SO PRETTY!
The island just went insane, the whole expressway yesterday was blocked with fans waiting for Tito from the airport to his house in Cupey. F'n insane!

Great fight, Mayorga took more punches that a mere human could, but Tito showed he still got it...Hopkins, you're next!



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HBO's showing the replay Saturday night at 11 pm ET/PT. Makes me glad I watched the Showtime card, as Lacy-Vanderpool was a SICK fight, Ouma-Phillips was quite good, and Klitschko-Williamson was entertaining if unfortunately stopped due to the unintentional headbutt. Wlad's got a pretty long way to go to come back, though.



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Oh, I would LOVE to see Mayorga fight Zab "Punk with a glass jaw" Judah. I'd probably pay money for that one.

As for Trinidad, I'm thinking the big money match is still De La Hoya. And I think if Oscar can beat him, he's right back in line for Hopkins again. And I think Hopkins would take that match in a heartbeat and dance a jig.

No matter what, Oscar still pulls twice the money as any other non-heavyweight, so he's going to be a player if he wants. And he didn't do that bad against Hopkins - he got caught, but wasn't getting beat up or anything. And I don't care how much a freak of nature Bernard is, he can't keep a natural 160 pounds, 27-inch waist up forever. Two more years could make a huge difference.



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