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Since: 22.1.02

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#1 Posted on
This week's episode: Will Jessie Lose Her Smile?

Sorry. I just wanted to be the first one to make that joke.

I marked out to see Danny make it back.

Not enough Bob or Chavo for my taste. Looks like Holly streches someone next week--any bets on who? I think Jake, maybe.

At the end of the show, I wanted to yell, "MY GOD! THEY KILLED HIM! SOMEONE STOP THE DAMN SHOW!"



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#2 Posted on
Don't forget that while stretching him, Holly was saying "Don't you ever tell me you missed me again."

I have a feeling this whole season is just going to prove the fact that Bob Holly does in fact rule.



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Since: 1.3.02
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I have to agree on what happened to Aaron. Scary scary scary.
I just wonder if there's a point to when the trainers feel that enough's enough. Talk about bad PR if something goes awry, eh?

I still have no idea as to who's going to go all the way. For TE1 I thought Greg and Paulina were locked. I was wrong on that! But I'll go out on a limb and say Anni and Danny will make it. Guess we'll see how wrong or right that is in a couple of months.



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I dont think that its as bad as it looks. Havent you ever banged your shins really bad and felt woozy after? I think that combined with the exertion they were feeling led to him passing out. Plus if he did get seriously hurt and had to leave the show they wouldnt cut anybody next show. On another note, Im pissed theyre deciding to do stupid physical challenges. Isnt the Wrestling traning hard enough without doing silly "Survivor" style shit? This is no doubt MTV's idea. Im having a feeling Im not going to like this new Tough Enough. And I thought Ivory was being a bitch. Its not like the girl was dragging ass. She was doing it, She was just happy. Whats wrong with being happy? LOL.

(edited by rockdotcom_2.0 on 8.3.02 0028)
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#5 Posted on
Unless one has an actual match, how can one tell if s/he can take the strain and stress of a fast-paced wrestling match, doing the variety of moves the wrestlers do in a short period of time, other than an obstacle course? rockdotcom, it is not just a challenge; they have to do it every day during training.

Ivory did well in disciplining Smiley Girl. She did look a little turned on in the clenches. Only Sting and Dallas Page gets away with smiling a lot in match, cause they kick ass (Page as a bouncer used to throw out drunken wrestlers and wannabes out of famous bars, that's how he is so well-connected). In a match, someone like Jazz would stiffly slap the smile off Smiley (no, never Norman Smiley, but this Smiley), and maybe loosen a few teeth. Kick ass first, then smile.

Poor Aaron. At least he won't die in the ring.
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I agree that Aaron probably won't be out yet since they are cutting someone next week. But he could be the one that gets cut cause they are worried about him. I hope he is able to stay though, he was nailing that basic stuff better than anyone. Also I hope he stays because again my picks were Linda and Aaron.

As for bad PR? I don't think they did anything wrong, they aren't working them any harder than coaches of other sports.



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#7 Posted on
Instead of "Will Jessie lose her smile" how about Jessie grow a backbone and NOT run off to the bathroom and start cying because Ivory told her to stop smiling like a moron. Ugh, I hope she gets eliminated and fast

For next week...Don't Fuck with Bob Holly! I thought Tazz was a tough SOB with the TE kids, if the promo is true...Tazz has nothing on Hardcore Holly.

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    Originally posted by deadbeater
    Unless one has an actual match, how can one tell if s/he can take the strain and stress of a fast-paced wrestling match, doing the variety of moves the wrestlers do in a short period of time, other than an obstacle course? rockdotcom, it is not just a challenge; they have to do it every day during training.


Huh? Man you lost me here. Tough Enough is about wrestling and learning how to be a wrestler. I dont think any stupid obstacle course has shit to do with learning the proper way to do an armdrag. They are not training to be in the Navy SEALS, they are training to be wrestlers. Last season they didnt do any of that stupid stuff in the beginning, they showed the training for the most part. And thats what interested people. If I wanted to watch "Survivor" I would watch it. Did you notice how none of the Wrestling trainers took part in that survival course nonsense? Probably because the trainers know all that survivor course is going to do is get someone hurt unnecessarily. Wait, that happened.



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    Originally posted by rockdotcom_2.0
    I dont think any stupid obstacle course has shit to do with learning the proper way to do an armdrag.


Maybe it has something to do with being able to execute a proper armdrag when you're dead tired?

If that's not the reason, then I have no clue why they had the obstacle course. Rockdotcom makes a good point, though: Why weren't ANY of the wrestler-trainers there? I mean, there are four of them; not even one could find the time?

On the other hand, I'll bet if any of the WWF wrestlers WERE there for the obstacle course, they would have stopped Aaron and taken him off the course before he hurt himself.

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Since: 2.1.02
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I think you're forgetting the run and the mudfight that started off Tough Enough 1. What were those? Physical challenges. And then at the end of the series, they did the swim and the rockpile climb.

It's not a Survivor-type atmosphere. It's cross-training. It's for all-around physical fitness. Especially with this one, where they didn't make an effort to show it as a "competition" other than the one guy promising that at least ONCE he'd be fastest.

You can't expect to just work out in a wrestling ring to become a wrestler. You need much more than that, and the constant running of this obstacle course will, they're thinking, help provide that.

I bet by the end of the season their times will be cut in half, and they'll be smoking that course.
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    Originally posted by Hokienautic
    I think you're forgetting the run and the mudfight that started off Tough Enough 1. What were those? Physical challenges. And then at the end of the series, they did the swim and the rockpile climb.

    It's not a Survivor-type atmosphere. It's cross-training. It's for all-around physical fitness. Especially with this one, where they didn't make an effort to show it as a "competition" other than the one guy promising that at least ONCE he'd be fastest.

    You can't expect to just work out in a wrestling ring to become a wrestler. You need much more than that, and the constant running of this obstacle course will, they're thinking, help provide that.

    I bet by the end of the season their times will be cut in half, and they'll be smoking that course.




Im sorry I dont agree, I think this is just MTV wanting to stick their noses in. When Tazz had them do the mudfight that was wrestling related. Running and swimming are good ways to improve condtioning, and with the rockpile that was at the end of the training. All that stupid obstacle course did is get that guy hurt. Make them run I say, make them swim too. But they proved last year that the wrestling training alone can weed out the weak ones. They dontneed silly obstacle courses run by half ass LA trainers to make them wrestlers.



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Since: 2.1.02
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#12 Posted on
Last season, the people they showed the most in the first episodes were the first to be cut. We didn't see Taylor, Maven and Nidia hardly at all until mid-season.
I think it's obvious Jessie and Anni will be the first two to go because they've had the most exposure.
And Hawk is going to win, I've decided. Why? Because during the physical challenge in the casting special they showed a Hawk flying up the mountain. SYMBOLISM~! (I'm being sarcastic)

Actually, Jake and Jackie have my vote.

Side note: What's up with the lesbian overtones to the Jessie/Anni bedroom segment? Did you see them hugging and Jessie stroking Anni's leg?
I stood up and yelled "LESBIANS!" when it happened and my wife got all pissed off and said, "Just because they are having a moment doesn't make them lesbians!" That's true...but still...



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#13 Posted on
At least we'd be pretty sure which is the bitch and which is the butch...

I do think that they were just bonding, not in a romantic sense.

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Since: 4.1.02
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#14 Posted on
This whole show is a bunch of bullshit. You have first Tazz, and now Hardcore Holly as the two bitter old bastards way past their prime stretching the trainees to make themselves feel like a man and no one is willing to strike back because they know DAMN well they'd be out on their ass if they raise a finger in their direction. You have a purposeless obstacle course that was probably forced on them by MTV. And before I forget, we have a bunch of wimps with little to no previous training (Hawk being the exception) who are willing to eat this shit up with a spoon for what?
The "privilege" to work for that piece of shit, Vince McMahon! My personal plan for the longest time was to go back to wrestling school after I graduate college and work the indies, hopefully working my way up. Well, I may do the weekend warrior thing for a while (for kicks) but the dream is now to get on one of these shows and give the ultimate show: That is, the first time one of these "trainers" steps over the line, kick their ass until their nose bleeds!
Sorry for the anger overdose, but I've been through wrestling school once and that was a great experience I'd recommend to anyone wanting to break into the business. But Tough Enough? It's MTV teaming up with a bunch of bitter J-brones (Al Snow and Jackie excluded since they looked like they actually wanted to TEACH something!) to haze a bunch of ignorant kids who don't know enough to tell them to fuck off, then find a real school!
Final note: Good looking lesbians on tv is NEVER a BAD thing... It's a GOOD thing! ;)



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#15 Posted on
Whats wrong with lesbians? I love lesbians, you love lesbians, everybody loves lesbians. Howard Stern said it best. Lesbians = ratings...



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Since: 2.1.02
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#16 Posted on
Oh, I love lesbians, too. I just found it a little odd and...Real-World-ish.



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#17 Posted on
    Originally posted by shea

      Originally posted by rockdotcom_2.0
      I dont think any stupid obstacle course has shit to do with learning the proper way to do an armdrag.


    Yeah i agree, but when I was in Basic Training they had us doing some silly sh*t that had nothing to do with being a soilder. (let alone one who was a personell administrator aka Pencil Pusher) But what it did do was teach us dicipline and to finish whatever task needed to be done, even if we didnt want too, like and obstacle course.

    Silly little things like that give whomever is in charge a good beed on whos a trooper, whos a slacker and whos putting forth effort and at least trying

    (edited by NOMAD974 on 8.3.02 1816)
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They should do a vignette after Matt wins the title with him celebrating and pigging out on hamburgers and beer and everything. Then Stephanie comes in and tells him he has to defend against Kidman in a rematch on Smackdown. "Shannon!
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