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Since: 8.1.02
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#1 Posted on
Does anyone think Torrie Wilson did a somewhat decent job in that match last night with Staci? For someone who looked horrible the first time I saw her attempt anything close to wrestling, she put in some decent boots, *tried* some decent flip overs which could have been much worse, and got in some good slaps. She must be working on SOMETHING, although I don't think she'll ever be close to Trish. At least she had Staci beat in the FINE department.

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#2 Posted on
Bulls hit. What that match needed was Jazz doing a run-in, then Jazz slapping Lawler's mouth shut.
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#3 Posted on
In no way does Torrie beat stacy in the fine department. But, maybe Trish's work ethic is starting to rub off on both Torrie and Stacy, who seemed to have picked it up a notch in the ring. DB is correct though, we need to have Jazz making her mark, she IS the Champ afterall. I'd also like to see Molly wrestle again, as she kicks ass over everyone else except Ivory.



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#4 Posted on
I'd rather see them perform basic moves in the ring and execute/sell them well, than try to do something more complicated (like the rollup sequences last night) and botch them as badly as they did. This was simply the lingerie match redone in different skimpy outfits, and was executed far worse than the first time around.

Possession of ovaries does not compensate for lack of talent. There are some things Stacy and Torrie can do well; wrestling is (by far) not one of them.






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Since: 8.1.02
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#5 Posted on
Come on, they're trying and may continue to improve. When did Trish loose the title by the way? I must have missed it.

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#6 Posted on

    Originally posted by DMC
    Come on, they're trying and may continue to improve. When did Trish lose the title by the way? I must have missed it.

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If they HAD improved on their last match -- which they didn't -- I wouldn't be complaining.

It was only 1:18 from bell to bell, which was a blessing. Still, I'd have taken 1:18 of (let's say) Molly vs. Jazz over the Cinemax interlude that they aired.

Trish got STOMPED by Jazz about five minutes after Stephanie's big "I'M PREGNANT!" announcement. Pretty much a squash.



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#7 Posted on
Women's wrestling will NEVER be over. It wasn't over with Wendi Richter.....it wasn't over with Moolah or the Bomb Angels..or Alundra Blayze..... women wrestling a straight match will NEVER make money.

WWF divas MAKE money. Tits and Ass sells. No one wants to see a legit match between Torri and Stacy. Give them two minutes, let them roll around in bikinis and everyone is happy.

If Molly vs Jazz produced high ratings or big buyrates McMahon would do it in a second. But it doesn't.
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#8 Posted on
I am still convinced if you marketed a good storyline between well defined (get your mind out of the gutter) female character. A decent female division could be sucessful. I think now with Trish, Ivory, Molly, Jazz err and even Lita I guess you have some talent there. Unfortunatley when Lawler screams "puppies" it pretty much kills any chance for any women to get over as a character.

I'm not saying take away sex appeal, just girls fighting in bikinis is lame as hell and kills anyone's character and fans caring about them at all
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#9 Posted on
When was the last time the women's division was over anyway?

If I had to venture a guess, I'd say that two years ago with Stephanie/Lita was probably the last time that the crowd really responded well for a women's match...



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#10 Posted on
Just last year Stephanie and Trish had a pretty good program going. Alot of that involed the T+A of Trish anyway though. But i remember them having a good ppv match which the crowd was way into. I liked the bikini match. Torrie and Stacy wrestling in bikini's does make me take them less seriously, but so does the fact that Molly Holly thinks she is a superhero. Or just a sidekick. Or whatever.



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#11 Posted on
"In no way does Torrie beat stacy in the fine department"

Bullshit, horseshit, gatorshit, any kind of shit you can imagine! There is no f*ckin' WAY that Stacy is finer than Torrie. None! Well, correction there... She's skinny and young-looking so I guess she has a bit of that P4P (porno for pedos) appeal going if you're into that. Torrie, on the other hand looks healthy enough to bang the first and second string of the Patriots and ask for the third. Oooooookay. Sorry about the outburst, but dammit I get downright pissed when someone suggests that Stacy, that Olive Oyl imitator, has anything on Torrie, or Ivory, or Molly, or sweet, sweet Jackie. Let's not forget Sunny in her Prime (before the drugs). Hell, I'll get old school on you and invoke the name of one of the finest chicks ever in wrestling, Susan Sexton! Now THAT was a real woman! But I digress... It wasn't a BAD match, compared to some of the other matches the WWF has pounded down our throats recently, but dammit, I wish they could put on a match like Ivory, Molly, Jackie and Jazz could!



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#12 Posted on
I never said I really _wanted_ to see women's WWF wrestling on my TV. The reason is simple, and has been stated elsewhere in this thread; if they're going to half-ass it (no pun intended), they shouldn't even bother.

I understand _why_ they're putting two bimbos out there and having them roll around; that much (ratings) is obvious. I also understand why they're bringing Hogan back. That doesn't mean that I want to see either one, or that they couldn't do something better with their airtime.

Again: Torrie and Stacy in a Divas video and as valets makes sense. Making them wrestle when they're far from ready is just embarassing to all concerned.




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#13 Posted on
Good one, East Coast. :)

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#14 Posted on
Ummm...they put two hot blondes in bikinis rolling around for two minutes on your tv because that's what men 18-34 (and Jerry Lawler)like to see.
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#15 Posted on

    Originally posted by The Masked Hungarian
    Ummm...they put two hot blondes in bikinis rolling around for two minutes on your tv because that's what men 18-34 (and Jerry Lawler)like to see.


Oddly enough, I myself am a man in the 18-34 demographic, and I wasn't impressed.

It's not the blondes-in-bikinis-rolling-around part that I had the problem with. Just put two wrestlers in the ring, Torrie & Stacy on a gymnastics mat at floor level and give me a split-screen effect, that's all...



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#16 Posted on
I think the WWF should just axe the women's division and make the non-wrestlers valets. Have the Torries and Stacis do their gravy bowl matches every so often, and have the women with ability wrestle each other, occasionally do a mixed tag, but get rid of the pretense of a Women's title and that it means anything. In the WWF, women's wrestling is strictly a novelty, sort of like midget wrestling, and I haven't seen anything to make me take it seriously.





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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05
the women's division is sad...

is Jazz finally the champ? that would make 100% of the division former champs...and it's not like they haven't been champ in a while...jackie was champ back when they restarted it back in 98...


so in 3 years, 100% [i think] of the division has one the title...

wow...

bring in Nakano!!!!



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    Originally posted by The Masked Hungarian
    Women's wrestling will NEVER be over. It wasn't over with Wendi Richter.....it wasn't over with Moolah or the Bomb Angels..or Alundra Blayze..... women wrestling a straight match will NEVER make money.

    WWF divas MAKE money. Tits and Ass sells. No one wants to see a legit match between Torri and Stacy. Give them two minutes, let them roll around in bikinis and everyone is happy.

    If Molly vs Jazz produced high ratings or big buyrates McMahon would do it in a second. But it doesn't.



... Agree wholeheartedly with all of this. If the Jumping Bomb Angels couldn't get over, nothing in the Women's division will. The best chance the WWF has with the women, imo, would be to book a series of matches with Molly (because she's the most talented woman who is actually HOT, and not just some dead ringer for a crack whore) and Torrie (who is just simply f'n HOT HOT HOT HOT and can learn from Molly).

Torrie would be a face simply for her look, and heel Molly would be excellent (if Molly's match with Lita a while back is any indication).



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#19 Posted on
Last night's No Way Out was perfect as far as its amount of female involvement.



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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.01
“Is Jazz finally champ? That would make 100% of the division former champs.”

No, no, bloody no! LOL...

Molly is not a former Women's Champion. Neither are Torrie or Stacy. If you want to include Nidia in this, neither is she.

BTW, I had no problem with two half-naked fine chicks having a Cinemax interlude on my television. They just shouldn't have pretended to have been wrestling.



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