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Since: 20.1.02
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#1 Posted on
Over the past 20 years, how many wrestlers in the United States have made it to the top of the game without EVER having had a tenure in the WWF?

Sting and Goldberg (obviously to a lesser extent than Sting). Is there anyone else?

(and correct me if either of these men ever appeared in the WWF)
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#2 Posted on
I don't recall ever seeing normal sized La Parka in the WWF, but I believe that Mini Parka wrestled on PPV a few times.



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Since: 8.1.02
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#3 Posted on
I don't recall seeing Dusty Rhodes in the WWF.

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#4 Posted on
I guess you've blocked out all memories of a fat polka-dot covered man hanging out with some black chick?



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Since: 8.1.02
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#5 Posted on
I guess I am if you're talking to me...when was this and what was his angle? I *very vaguely* remember this now...

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Since: 2.1.02
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#6 Posted on
How could you forget the Polka Dot Dusty? That was one of those things that was so stupid that I probably will ALWAYS remember that. I think his female sidekick was named Sapphire.

(edited by dskillz on 5.2.02 2044)



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#7 Posted on
Didn't he also have an earlier pre-Vince Jr. WWF stint?

I guess it doesn't count, but I would like to include Flair because he was already at the top of the game when he came to the WWF in 1991. But he may well have been there at least one time before that--a lot of people wrestled for Vince's dad but didn't return afterward.

Edit: That is to say, there are a lot of people who spent time in the WWF [and the WWWF] in the Seventies but their time there is probably forgotten by the average fan today.
Flair may well have wrestled there during the Vince Sr. period for all I know.

(edited by WTF13 on 5.2.02 2316)



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#8 Posted on
What I'm thankful fo' Thanksgivin'??

FO' MY POLKA DOTS!!!!!

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#9 Posted on
My earlier response made me go spend some time at Kayfabe Memories for confirmation, and yes indeed, Dusty Rhodes did wrestle in the WWWF in the late Seventies. He feuded with Superstar Billy Graham for the world title.

I don't think Flair ever wrestled there before 1991, though he did apparently have a "Title unification match" with Bob Backlund, but that doesn't really count.



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Since: 21.1.02
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#10 Posted on
Hmm, if Flair counts because he made it big before joining the WWF, how about the Steiner Brothers? Granted, Scotty got even bigger (in more ways than one) post WWF.



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Was it true that Vince did the polka dot gimmick to bury Dusty? But Dusty got over anyway...

I think I read that somewhere.

Maybe.



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#12 Posted on
Yeah that sounds about right. That gimmick was career killer, I wouldn't put it past Vince McMahon if that's why he wore that ridiculous outfit. What was it? The Common Man? HAHAHAHAHAHAAA. His son once did a skit about that on RAW, the funniest shit I've ever seen. HE EVEN DID THE SHIMMY!



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#13 Posted on
I heard someplace that Goldust was originally another attempt at Rhodes humiliation.

I would agree that the WWF had little to do with the Steiners' success, even though they wrestled there. How long was that, anyway? It seemed like they were only there a few months.



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Since: 6.1.02
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#14 Posted on
Well if you're talking about people who were on top before they went to the WWF like Flair, then couldn't you include The Giant and Booker? Sure they're no legends like Flair but they were both main eventing shows for WCW before ever coming to the WWF.



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If you really wanna drop names that were bigger before they went into the fed, you gotta mention Vader. This was the man that ran dominant over WCW for half a decade.

Also, to my recolection, Inoki, Giant Baba, and a surprising shitload of guys never made it in the WWF.

Neither did Sabu.



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Since: 20.1.02
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#16 Posted on
My intention was to compile a list of top performers (of the last 20 years) who NEVER had a WWF stint. If they made it elsewhere and THEN came to the WWF, that's great. However, I see the jump to the WWF by performers like Flair (and Rhodes) as another notch in the belt (or polka dot on the belt). They got over on a large scale, but they felt that they needed the money or fame associated with a WWF contract.

Sabu might be another example, but didn't he wrestle on RAW during the original ECW invasion? He's get on the list with Sting and Goldberg, but with a very small asterisk.
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#17 Posted on
The funniest video introduction the WWF ever did were those Dusty Rhodes clips. Dusty riding the back of a garbage truck, or eating at a diner and some random black guy yells out, "HEY isn't that??" The American Dream/Common Man theme song is only second to the Mountie's. Who can forget the horror when Saphire was bought by the Million Dollar Man.

Oh yeah, the point of this thread. How about Abdullah the Butcher? I'll throw Sandman on this list too. Oh yeah, the most obvious tag team, the Ding-Dongs.
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Since: 22.1.02
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#18 Posted on
Or Dusty delivering pizza.... Americana pizza!!!
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#19 Posted on
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#20 Posted on
"I would agree that the WWF had little to do with the Steiners' success, even though they wrestled there. How long was that, anyway? It seemed like they were only there a few months."

It was over a year. They beat the Beverlies in their PPV debut at Royal Rumble 1993. Around KotR time, they traded the belts a few times with Money Inc, but they lost the belts for good to the Quebecers before Survivor Series. They were in the main at SS (Luger/Taker/Steiners vs Yoko/Borga/Crush/Quebecer Pierre), and I remember Rick Steiner being caught by Borga off the top rope and absolutely destroyed with some sick move that I can't remember the exact details of. All I can remember thinking was that it killed him. They were in the Rumble the next year (Kwang gave Rick the green mist on his entrance), and that's about all I remember of their WWF tenure.

It was for the most part, pretty forgettable, though they DID have one sweet ass cage match against Dibiase and Schyster on Raw.



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