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#1 Posted on
I came across this site and found an thread about TK so I figured this was as good a place as any to talk about TK. Friday is his final show and it's kind of depressing. Almost everyday I listen to him and his ramblings and I love it, he will be missed.
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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.41

I assume I really don't need to say how upset I am. And I knew about it in Novemeber, which made it even worse.

We can just count the days until the local show starts. And I can listen to the last 3 months of the show, which I have on my hard drive. God Bless Replay Radio.




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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.84
Maybe now that he's quitting radio, he might write a column for the Washington Post every now and then instead of teasing us by pretending to be a newspaperman.



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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.86
    Originally posted by odessasteps

    I assume I really don't need to say how upset I am. And I knew about it in Novemeber, which made it even worse.

    We can just count the days until the local show starts. And I can listen to the last 3 months of the show, which I have on my hard drive. God Bless Replay Radio.


That's great for you Mark, but those of us in the hinterlands are screwed. I absolutely hated to miss Satchmo. I have listened for the last four years and am a Mr. Tony addict. The most smart, literate, thought-provoking talk show on the radio. To loose him and keep the "Sports Bash" makes me ill.

Mark, what is the real reason for his departure? He obviously loves the format.



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I thought he spelled it out pretty clearly yesterday. Management, other than his first and last bosses (the last boss started after he had already researched doing a new local show - my speculation), wouldn't let him do the show he wanted. So, he picked up his mike and is going "home", where he can do a local show just the way he wants (once his no-compete clause is up).

I can't catch the last hour of the show at work, because he's only on for the first two hours locally. And, my work computer is running Win95, so I can't listen on the net. I just hope that they have the whole show archived on ESPN's web so I can listen tonight.

Thanks for everything, Tony. You'll be missed.



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#6 Posted on
You can listen to the show until the next show, so you have till Monday to hear his last show. Is there anyway we could find the web site of the local station he broadcast on and they could have a web broadcast like ESPN radio does, one can only hope. This makes me so mad, ESPN can't do anything right.
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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.52
    Originally posted by Franchise21
    ESPN can't do anything right.



That's a pretty broad statement. As the WORLDWIDE LEADER IN SPORTS with four solid regular cable stations, and the world's largest sports radio network, I would guess they are doing SOMETHING right.



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#8 Posted on
It's their fault TK is leaving, and if you think letting a guy who has 1.5 million listeners go is smart then you don't know much about radio. Also, if you go to ESPN.com and find the complaints sections, there are pages upon pages of posts on why ESPN is going downhill, which it is.

(edited by Franchise21 on 26.3.04 0804)
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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.52
    Originally posted by Franchise21
    It's their fault TK is leaving, and if you think letting a guy who has 1.5 million listeners go is smart then you don't know much about radio.


Did I say that? If you think I did, read my comments again. I didn't say anything about this particular move (TK) is smart.

You said, "ESPN can't do ANYTHING right." That's simply not true. They do lots of things right. The situation with TK might not be one of them, but that doesn't mean they don't do ANYTHING right.


    Originally posted by Franchise 21
    Also, if you go to ESPN.com and find the complaints sections, there are pages upon pages of posts on why ESPN is going downhill, which it is.


ESNP's ratings have done nothing but climb in the last 5-10 years. They've added several new stations in the last 5-10 years, their radio market share is growing daily and has grown signicantly in the last 5-10 years, and they have a room full of Emmy awards for Sports Century and EPSN Classic, most (if not all) have been earned in the last 5-10 years. How many other SPORTS ONLY media companies can make those claims? And how can you claim they're going "downhill" with all those facts saying they are not? It's not my opinion that they have progressed, it's fact.

EDIT for spelling

(edited by The Amazing Salami on 26.3.04 0811)


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#10 Posted on
Because they have a monopoly of the sports broadcasting market. It wasn't until just recently that Fox sports has started to progress but they don't have a show like Sportscenter. If some one does create another sports company, with TV and radios channels, I wouldn't be surprised to see them overtake ESPN. People are feed up with having to pay for almost everything ojn ESPN.com, The anchors on Sportscenter now are a joke.
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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.52
    Originally posted by Franchise21
    If some one does create another sports company, with TV and radios channels, I wouldn't be surprised to see them overtake ESPN.


Call me when this happens and I will concede defeat in this particular argument.

And one more thing:

Monopoly - Exclusive control by one group of the means of producing or selling a commodity or service.

The fact that Fox HAS a sports broadcasting company makes your statement about ESPN having a monopoly false. Fox's stations make ESPN's NON-EXCLUSIVE.

Just because they own the largest market share DOES NOT give them a monopoly. It just means they're doing more things right than anyone else in the business, which I think was our original argument. :)



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#12 Posted on
Well, if you decide to listen to the archived version, you'll only need the first hour and a half if you're interested in hearing Mr. Tony's exit.

He said he was leaving early and he wasn't kidding.
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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.41

More than likely, Tony will be on WTEM aka Sportstalk 980 in Washington. This is where Tony was before, where Andy works and will probably be again.

WTEM does stream audio.

Also, Tony will continue to do his "Tony Kornheiser's Washington" at 5:30 on 980, during the "sports reporters" show with Andy and Steve Czaban.

Again, I would suggest Replay Radio, which lets you record streaming audio, if you can't listen on a regular basis.




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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.52
Do you think they'll hand the timeslot to ANDYPOLLEY with a new sidekick or will they go another route completely.

I guess I don't really care as long as they get rid of the SPORTS BASH soon. Ugh.



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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.86
After listening to his signoff I am sad, very sad.



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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.41
    Originally posted by The Amazing Salami
    Do you think they'll hand the timeslot to ANDYPOLLEY with a new sidekick or will they go another route completely.

    I guess I don't really care as long as they get rid of the SPORTS BASH soon. Ugh.


The new show is some guy from Nevada named Colin. Supposedly, it's a mixture of sports and pop culture, which would technically make it like Tony's show on paper.




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#17 Posted on
    Originally posted by odessasteps

    More than likely, Tony will be on WTEM aka Sportstalk 980 in Washington. This is where Tony was before, where Andy works and will probably be again.

    WTEM does stream audio


Thank you, I was hoping I could still hear him. He has said a few times he'll be back in a few months. I thought I heard the new show is going to be called the Herd, with Colin Herd.
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#18 Posted on
FWIW, here's the new guy:

http://espnradio.espn.go.com/ espnradio/story?storyId=1742243
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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00
:( * a billion.

I completely blame Jay Mariotti - it seemed like Tony getting knocked off Chicago, even when that was just a moronic prospect before it became an insane reality - was the final straw. I hate that man.

See, if I'm angry than I'm not sad. So I'm going with that.

The depressing thing is that even when he comes back, it's not going to be the same. I'll still listen and all, but he pointed out days ago ago that if he was doing a Washington based show, he would've done an hour on Georgetown's coach getting fired, and I can't fake an interest in that. But I'll probably just mentally tune out for that and stick around for Maggie the Dog.

Cowherd sounds like a nice guy and all - reading articles about him via news.Google.com the last couple months makes it seem like a lot of people in the NorthWest adore him. But this is a tough spot.


    And I can listen to the last 3 months of the show, which I have on my hard drive. God Bless Replay Radio.


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Would it be possible to get a hold of a couple of those? I'll really write that article I owe you.



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#20 Posted on
I guess we'll have to give the guy a shot. I mean he's not going to be a TK, but we might like this guy just as much.
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Oooh, cool -- you're much better at finding things on ESPN's site than I am! Let's record it & see if its the right thing. (Hey, this is what your TiVo is perrrrrfect for.)
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