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So - when I was at the theater to see Brave, I saw a poster announcing that, to promote the upcoming release of Star Trek: The Next Generation on Blu-ray, they will be showing two episodes in theaters as a "special limited engagement". Then I saw *which* two episodes: "Where No One Has Gone Before" and "Datalore". While the visual effects are good in those episodes, they both are "The Wisdom of Wesley Crusher" episodes - where Wesley practically saves the day, while the rest of the crew looks like fools. Why not a remastered "Encounter at Farpoint" instead?

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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.00
There was a trailer for that when we saw Moonrise Kingdom.

Also wondered why they picked what they did.

I think going to see the remastere Singin in the Rain would be more enjoyable.




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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.26
    Originally posted by odessasteps

    Also wondered why they picked what they did.



I believe there was a fan vote on startrek.com and those were the two most popular episodes chosen.



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Over Best of Both Worlds?!! I refuse to believe that



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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.39
    Originally posted by lotjx
    Over Best of Both Worlds?!! I refuse to believe that


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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.26
    Originally posted by wannaberockstar
      Originally posted by lotjx
      Over Best of Both Worlds?!! I refuse to believe that


    You underestimate the amount of misguided Wil Wheaton fans on the Internet who don't know any better.


Guys, speaking of misguided, this TNG event is to promote the season one Blu-rays so only season one episodes were eligible to be voted on. Relax with the "THESE TNG EPISODES WERE THE BEST EVARRRR" umbrage.



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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.24
    Originally posted by John Orquiola
      Originally posted by wannaberockstar
        Originally posted by lotjx
        Over Best of Both Worlds?!! I refuse to believe that


      You underestimate the amount of misguided Wil Wheaton fans on the Internet who don't know any better.


    Guys, speaking of misguided, this TNG event is to promote the season one Blu-rays so only season one episodes were eligible to be voted on. Relax with the "THESE TNG EPISODES WERE THE BEST EVARRRR" umbrage.


Christ, they weren't even the best ones for that, Encounter at Fairpoint.



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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.85
Maybe because "Encounter at Farpoint" was one of the three episodes that were included on the "Next Level" sampler Blu-ray previously released, whereas these two episodes in HD will be new to people.
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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.57
How could they not vote for "Skin Of Evil"?! Armus: TNG's GREATEST VILLAIN.
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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.95
Incidentally, the episode ratings at TV.com (voted on by several hundred people, presumably TNG fans who haven cared enough to rate episodes) have "Datalore" and "Where No One Has Gone Before" as two of the best 3 episodes in season 1.
    Originally posted by http://www.tv.com/shows/star-trek-the-next-generation/episodes/

    8.4 - Datalore, Conspiracy
    8.2 - Where No One Has Gone Before
    7.9 - Encounter At Farpoint, The Arsenal of Freedom
    7.8 - 11001001, Heart of Glory
    7.7 - The Big Goodbye
    7.6 - The Naked Now, Hide And Q, The Neutral Zone
    7.5 - The Battle, Coming of Age
    7.4 - Skin of Evil
    7.2 - Symbiosis
    7.0 - Lonely Among Us, We'll Always Have Paris
    6.9 - The Last Outpost, Home Soil
    6.7 - Haven
    6.6 - When The Bough Breaks
    6.3 - Too Short A Season
    6.1 - Justice
    6.0 - Angel One
    5.9 - Code of Honor

I'm surprised to see "Conspiracy" up there, but now that I think of it, I wonder if the alien at the end of it has been changed at all. And "Datalore" is the "Shut up, Wesley" episode. Pretty sure that's going to get a big cheer in theatre.
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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.88
    Originally posted by Amos Cochran
    How could they not vote for "Skin Of Evil"?! Armus: TNG's GREATEST VILLAIN.


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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.15
I liked "Heart of Glory", "The Battle", "Conspiracy" and "11001001" among my favorite season-one episodes that haven't yet been discussed. Particularly "Heart of Glory", which is the first episode to really talk about Worf being pulled in two directions by the Federation and Klingon Empire, and having to keep himself from losing control.



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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.24
Any of the Q episodes, Skin of Evil and Heart of Glory would have been better choices. I understand DataLore, mainly due its the first time we meet Lore, but Where No One has Gone Before? I don't think so. I like Lore, but I never got why he was allied with the Crystalline Entity or came and went when he didn't seem to have a Starship or how he convinced the Borg to be make him their king. Great idea and concept to have an evil Data, but it sometimes went off the rails.



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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.39
    Originally posted by lotjx
    Any of the Q episodes, Skin of Evil and Heart of Glory would have been better choices. I understand DataLore, mainly due its the first time we meet Lore, but Where No One has Gone Before? I don't think so. I like Lore, but I never got why he was allied with the Crystalline Entity or came and went when he didn't seem to have a Starship or how he convinced the Borg to be make him their king. Great idea and concept to have an evil Data, but it sometimes went off the rails.


Correct. Q episodes > anything.
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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.15
    Originally posted by lotjx
    I like Lore, but I never got why he was allied with the Crystalline Entity or came and went when he didn't seem to have a Starship or how he convinced the Borg to be make him their king. Great idea and concept to have an evil Data, but it sometimes went off the rails.


When Lore was created, Soong made him so perfectly human that the colonists became envious of him, in Lore's own words. I wouldn't be surprised if he'd also become quite dangerous by that point, quite frankly. The colonists implored Soong to deactivate and dismantle Lore and replace him with a "less perfect" android, Data. Lore caught wind of the plan and, having previous knowledge of the Crystalline Entity (which probably attacked the colony in the past-- how could the kids make the drawings of the Entity if they were all dead?), called it to destroy the colony.

Lore was dismantled, Data was created, but apparently the Entity attacked as Soong was getting ready to activate him. Soong had to leave Data behind on the slab, and apparently escaped the colony, while the rest of the colonists, after sending a distress call, died in the attack. Data, being non-biological and inactive, was spared; later, the USS Tripoli, responding to the colony's distress call, found the planet much as we saw it in "Datalore". They activated Data, and he went up to the ship with them, eventually joining Starfleet Academy.

Skip ahead to the events of "Datalore", ending with Wesley beaming Lore into space. Lore drifted around in deep space for two years before being rescued by a Pakled ship. It's not made clear how he was able to respond to Soong's siren call in "Brothers"; either he commandeered the Pakled ship (they're not exactly the sharpest knives in the... place where they keep the knives), or he got a starship or shuttle of his own. The events of "Brothers" take place. Lore steals the emotion chip that was meant for Data, assaults and accidentally kills Soong, and escapes via transporter.

After the events of "I, Borg", and Hugh's return to the Collective, chaos reigned in the particular collective that Hugh was a part of. Instead of unanimity, there was endless debate with nothing getting done, and mass suicides. Lore arrived, and using his charisma and "vision", got the Borg to follow him, promising them better lives, giving them the vision of becoming truly artificial like himself.

Of course, Lore had no idea what he was doing, and eventually a rebel faction, of which Hugh was a part, broke off from that part of the Collective and ultimately fought against the others, along with Riker and Worf, in "Descent, Part II".



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