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#21 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.40
If it wasn't true before, this has to prove that Hulk Hogan is the most brilliant political mind that wrestling has ever seen.

All the effort Kurt Angle put into forcing Jarrett out of the company and getting the backstage pull, just to be blindsided right out of it by Hulk freaking Hogan?

Nobody saw it coming.

I'm completely amazed that he pulled it off.






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sticking my head in, I will probably give impact a look if Hogan's there. I don't watch much for the pretend fighting and enjoy the stories. Hogan knows how to tell one, 60 or not



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#23 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.71
More significant perhaps than Hogan and Bischoff could be where the press conference was held. Was this the first time that another wrestling promotion even got a foothold into Vince's sacred territory of MSG? That might be the biggest shot across the bow.
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#24 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.22
Plus, Macho Man vs Hulk could happen in TNA and wouldn't happen in WWE. So... there's that for ya.



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#25 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.90
    Originally posted by CRZ
    So DID Flair get his cash up front?


Even if he did, I'm pretty sure he's used it up already on the wooooo! strachoffs.

If you're Desmond Wolfe (Nigel McGuinness), how are you feeling right now? You finally break through into a upper-tier company (at least higher than ROH) and get a big push right off the bat. Now with Hogan in the picture, all or most of the attention Wolfe was going to get is directed now to the Hulkster. It's going to make his push almost null and void. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Hogan turfs Wolfe to do a program with Angle and tries to say the reason for it being is that Wolfe 'hasn't learned the ropes' or 'earned his stripes' or some bs like that.








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#26 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.14
    Originally posted by John Orquiola

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    I'd say congratulations to all parties are involved. I'm sure that today, for the first time probably ever, Vince McMahon took some time out of his day to seriously consider what TNA is and what this means to his business.


I still dont see Vince seeing TNA as a threat, but to answer spf's question; Hogan always has drawing power... too bad he no longer has in-ring performing power.

One thing is saying "ha ha Undertaker is old", "Ric Flair is old what is he doing in the ring" but another thing is the fact that Hulk Hogan's entire lower body is a cyborg... and not the cool kind that would be an enhancement, I mean he has two fake hips and he just should not be in a wrestling ring anymore.
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#27 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.53
Well I enjoyed MCMG's one week push.

Edit: I forgot they already taped this week's episode of Impact. Two week push!

(edited by Quezzy on 27.10.09 2014)


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#28 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00
SPOILER:

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Week 2 doesn't go so well for one of 'em.




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#29 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.00
Personally, I guess what I'm hoping for is Hogan in a GM role or something, and wrestling very occasionally if at all. One problem with that is the idea that the GM can beat most everyone on the roster with one hand. (And where this would leave Foley, who knows.)

One thing I'm wondering about is the contract status of the wrestlers on the Hulkamania tour. Are they contracted to the Bischoff-Hervey group, and if so, given whatever the nature of the TNA/B-H partnership is, will they all be funnelled into TNA?

People are already talking about Ric Flair -- I read one suggestion that he could be contractually obligated to appear even if he didn't want to, which sounds dubious to say the least -- and Flair's name would come up regardless of any grain of truth.

But, Lord, what a bunch of doofs are lined up for Hulkamania. So many guys I hoped to never see again, all in one place -- Val Venis, the Godfather, Heidenreich, Eugene, Gangrel, Rikishi...*shudder*



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#30 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.63
I don't know much about contracts, but I'm not sure how Flair agreeing to work with Hogan on an Australian tour means he must be obligated to work with Hogan in TNA. Wouldn't they be two completely separate business deals, Australia and TNA? Does that mean he has to follow Hogan anywhere? If Hogan agreed to work in Antarctica, Flair would have to go there too? That seems really odd to me.

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#31 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.38

If Russo is gone, I'm all for this deal.



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#32 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.63
    Originally posted by odessasteps

    If Russo is gone, I'm all for this deal.

According to Keller, Russo knew Hogan was coming in and doesn't seem worried about his job. He'll even be a part of a group representing TNA that will be at Spike TV headquarters tomorrow.
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#33 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.36
    Originally posted by Karlos the Jackal
    But, Lord, what a bunch of doofs are lined up for Hulkamania. So many guys I hoped to never see again, all in one place -- Val Venis, the Godfather, Heidenreich, Eugene, Gangrel, Rikishi...*shudder*


Good lord, this list made my eyes bleed. And with their closeness to Hulk, a Nasty Boys return is inevitable. A Nasty Boys/Team 3D feud is hanging around the top of the list of things I NEVER want to see on television. I can't believe some of those names I saw, especially Orlando Jordan, who I was hoping had dropped off the face of the planet. That list of "stars" look all kinds of terrible, with no potential in any of them. And yes, I count Ken Anderson in that group of misfits. The only prospect that looks slightly enticing is a possible Rikishi/Umaga tag team, but then I remember that Rikishi just won't let go of the Stinkface as a "wrestling move" and shake my head.

One question, though. I thought Charles Wright bought the Godfather gimmick from Vince McMahon. Maybe a strip joint in Vegas isn't as lucrative a venture as he thought it would be. (And if a STRIP CLUB in VEGAS can't succeed, then what can?)

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#34 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.64
    Originally posted by geemoney
      Originally posted by odessasteps

      If Russo is gone, I'm all for this deal.

    According to Keller, Russo knew Hogan was coming in and doesn't seem worried about his job.


I want Russo gone as much as anyone but I think Russo has more clout than most would think in that 'professional wrestling booker with successful track record in national wrestling promotions' is a pretty specialized field. (Russo's track record of success post-1999 is debatable, but fact is, he already has the job.) Who could replace him and not just run TNA's creative team but book them successfully into becoming the equal of WWE within 3-5 years? It's a short list of people who have the track record and ability. Paul Heyman is at the top of the short list, but that's a longshot at best unless a lot of moving pieces came together. Mind you, again, I reiterate, I want Russo gone today, but he'd still need a replacement that's a better option than he is.
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#35 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.00
    Originally posted by odessasteps
    If Russo is gone, I'm all for this deal.
You know -- and I would not have said this at any other point in the last decade or so -- but right now, I'm willing to cut Russo some slack. In the time since Jeff Jarrett and Dutch Mantell left and we've been getting, apparently, "Unfiltered Russo," I've been enjoying TNA more than I have throughout most of the last few years.

There are other factors at work, I'm sure -- who knows how much direction comes from Dixie, for instance -- but as of yesterday, I was pretty excited about the future of TNA and their "youth movement."

But just as it was difficult for me to imagine an AJ/Joe/Daniels match Main Eventing a PPV as of six months ago, it's equally tough to imagine that match happening in a Hogan-led company.

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#36 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.03
    Originally posted by John Orquiola

    There are really only three true free agent megastars that TNA could bring in to give them the kind of recognition they need to be considered a rival - or they hope, an equal - to WWE:

    Hulk Hogan, Stone Cold Steve Austin, and The Rock.

    Everyone else, including Ric Flair, is a just wrestling star, no matter how big a wrestling star. Those three guys are household names transcending the wrestling business. Rock and Austin are pipe dreams for TNA. But Hogan is the biggest score they'll ever have.


Very good point.

Who would have imagined that Hogan would be joining a new company years after the other two had retired (for real) from the ring?
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#37 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.53
    Originally posted by John Orquiola
    In terms of being able to stake a claim in the general public's minds that they are indeed serious about becoming the kind of powerhouse promotion WWE is (or WCW was when it challenged the WWF), signing Hulk Hogan is the greatest move possible for TNA.

    Whatever Hogan's presence does, specifically whatever damage to the status quo or to whatever the elements of TNA are going to be upended by him, in terms of public perception - and let's face it, TNA has very, very little to the general public - Hulk Hogan's name, stature and star power gives TNA credence.

    There are really only three true free agent megastars that TNA could bring in to give them the kind of recognition they need to be considered a rival - or they hope, an equal - to WWE:

    Hulk Hogan, Stone Cold Steve Austin, and The Rock.


I find this kind of thinking a little weird. It's been fifteen years since WCW signed Hogan in order to make a name for itself - why does everyone think that time and Hogan's multiple diminishing returns have had no impact on his mainstream perception?

I think this move ignites interest from those with one eye on TNA already, and that could lead to ratings boosts as the hardcore fans tune in a little more. But Hulk is more a punchline than a genuine crossover star these days. Reality TV show, Hell's Angels nonsense, the divorce, the Nick situation, the OJ comment...he's wrestling's version of Anna Nicole Smith at this point. Frankly I think non-wrestling folk, or even semi-casual wrestling fans, are more likely to roll their eyes at the guy than start following TNA because he's cropped up on it.

Plus, from a pure product standpoint, there's no way th is is good for TNA.
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#38 Posted on
I want to know if that Hogan Unreleased archives DVD will still come out as planned. Because I think that was supposed to come out next month, will Vince allow a DVD to be released that spotlights his competitor?
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#39 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.29
No keep RUSSO in TNA I do not want him back in the WWE! As for Hogan I guess he needs the money going through a nasty divorce. Credit Vince McMahon for ignoring Hogan except when it comes to making money off him(Hogan) in DVD's.
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#40 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.69
    Originally posted by Amos Cochran
      I find this kind of thinking a little weird. It's been fifteen years since WCW signed Hogan in order to make a name for itself - why does everyone think that time and Hogan's multiple diminishing returns have had no impact on his mainstream perception?



    I think Hogan is actually a bigger star today than he was 15 years ago.

    Where was he 15 years ago? The Hulkamania angle was painfully played out & his one-note, eat-your-vitamins character completely stale. His films (anyone remember "Suburban Commando" & "Mr. Nanny," for fuck's sake) were beyond embarrassing. He was linked to a steroid scandal and mocked on late-nite TV. It literally took a shocking heel turn and the Angle of the Decade to make him relevant again.

    Now? He has a lifelong connection with the 40-somethings who remember him from "Rocky III" and Hulkamania. He's known with the 30-somethings from his nWo / WCW run. The 20-somethings and teens know him through reality TV. And if TNA has the balls to run with it, there's a tremendous curiosity factor about Hogan right now, due to his wife divorcing him & banging a teenager, his kid getting thrown behind bars, and his daughter's career nosediving. Y'know?

    Personally, I have zero interest in seeing the Hulk Hogan CHARACTER anymore, but Hulk Hogan THE MAN -- with a live mic and some scores to settle -- would make me put down the remote. For a while, at least. And if TNA can hook me while I see where this goes, more power to 'em.



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