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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.56
Recap for TNA Sacrifice 5.24.09.

I didn't get the preshow match, but read somewhere that Red beat Kiyoshi in an extended Impact Special(tm).

- Foley arrives in a car that is certainly older than he is.

Eric Young and Lethal Consequences over Motor City Machine Guns and Sheikh Bashir when Lethal rolled up Bashir in 14 minutes. Fun, energetic stuff, probably the match of the night. The selling is still shoddy, but the spots were cool and it was good action.

Monster's Ball: Taylor Wilde over Daffney via TKO in 4 minutes. Nothing match, and I have no idea why Daffney was made to lose this, either. Postmatch is more important, as Dr. Stevie wants Abyss to put Wilde through some tacks, but he hesitates. Lauren comes out to stop him, so Stevie puts his hands on her. WRONG! Abyss chokeslams him into the tacks for his troubles.

- Borash makes the annuoncement that two former world champs and a new Knockout will appear on Impact next week. The names are there in the Impact thread.

X-Division Title: Suicide over Daniels in 17 minutes via Lung Blower. MCMG caused Suicide to lose in 12 minutes, but Daniels didn't want the title that way and so he wanted 5 more minutes, in which he lost cleanly. Poor bastard. Match was OK.

Knockouts Title: Angelina Love over Awesome Kong via rollup after spray-shot in 7 minutes. Nothing actually came out of the spray bottle, but Kong sold it anyway. Postmatch, Angie eats a pair of Implant Busters. Now bring on the makeover Angelina promised this week on Impact.

- Sting promises to retire on his terms.

Samoa Joe over Kevin Nash via Coquina Clutch in 8 minutes. I was surprised by the cleanness of the finish. The match has Nash, and therefore sucked. Joe goes haywire post match, killing unsuspecting referees. Steiner comes out to check on Nash once Joe is gone. GREAT way to re-establish Joe as a badass, and far better than anything involving that god-forsaken sling blade.

3D Invitational Final: Beer Money over British Invasion when Storm pinned Williams with the superkick in 12 minutes. Good tag action. Beer Money shake with 3D postmatch and the trophy presentation is on Impact this week.

I Quit Match: AJ Styles over Booker T when Jenna Morasca threw in the towel in 16 minutes. It was a good match, one of Booker's best in TNA, but the finish turned me off big-time. There was no reason to advance this pathetic, two-bit angle at the cost of this match.

Ultimate Sacrifice Match: Sting pinned Kurt Angle to become the new leader of the MEM in 14 minutes. Again, entertaining action, but was I the only one who failed to realize that Foley wouldn't lose the title if he wasn't pinned? So Sting wins the Main Event, which also involves the World Champion, and doesn't become the champ? Dumb.

--> From an in-ring perspective, this was one of TNA's best top-to-bottom performances this year. There was nothing downright abysmal, and quite a few matches were very entertaining. From a booking perspective, the main event and the I Quit match were big turn offs, at least as far as I was concerned. What did you guys think, and did you know beforehand that Foley had to be pinned in order to lose the title? In any case, if the booking had been to the level of the in-ring action, I would go far higher on the overall rating, but as it is, I'll say 5.5/10.



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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.00
Amazing Red vs. Kiyoshi was fun enough; Red wins with the Red Star Press.

    Originally posted by used2bcool
    Monster's Ball: Taylor Wilde over Daffney via TKO in 4 minutes. Nothing match, and I have no idea why Daffney was made to lose this, either.
Yeah, if it was just a "Knockouts Hardcore Match" it would've been fine, but calling it a "Monster's Ball" raises expectations that it couldn't meet. Daffney losing was weird, especially as it didn't really tie into the post-match stuff anyway -- but if it doesn't tie in to Stevie's treatments on Impact, it probably didn't matter much one way or the other anyway. Will we see Abyss/Wilde vs. Stevie/Daffney next month?

    Originally posted by used2bcool
    X-Division Title: Suicide over Daniels in 17 minutes via Lung Blower. MCMG caused Suicide to lose in 12 minutes, but Daniels didn't want the title that way and so he wanted 5 more minutes, in which he lost cleanly. Poor bastard. Match was OK.
Daniels didn't actually lose cleanly; the time limit of the extra five minutes ran out. Of course, Daniels was in the midst of getting pinned anyway, but the important thing is, he didn't get pinned, and maybe that's some small comfort to him. Match was pretty good, yeah, but didn't blow me away, unfortunately.

    Originally posted by used2bcool
    Samoa Joe over Kevin Nash via Coquina Clutch in 8 minutes. I was surprised by the cleanness of the finish. The match has Nash, and therefore sucked.
Oh geez yeah, on both counts. Nash got killed but the match was easily the worst of the night. Joe really looked like crap -- whether it was his opponent or Joe's own lack of motivation I dunno, but there it is.

    Originally posted by used2bcool
    3D Invitational Final: Beer Money over British Invasion when Storm pinned Williams with the superkick in 12 minutes. Good tag action. Beer Money shake with 3D postmatch and the trophy presentation is on Impact this week.
...which the British Invasion is totally going to crash. I predict a three-way match at Slammiversary.

    Originally posted by used2bcool
    I Quit Match: AJ Styles over Booker T when Jenna Morasca threw in the towel in 16 minutes. It was a good match, one of Booker's best in TNA, but the finish turned me off big-time. There was no reason to advance this pathetic, two-bit angle at the cost of this match.
Again, I totally agree here. My least famous finish ever might be "unrelated person throws a towel into the ring and the ref calls the match." And the fact that a Styles/Booker "I Quit" match exists ONLY to put over a Sharmelle/Jenna feud? Repulsive.

    Originally posted by used2bcool
    Ultimate Sacrifice Match: Sting pinned Kurt Angle to become the new leader of the MEM in 14 minutes. Again, entertaining action, but was I the only one who failed to realize that Foley wouldn't lose the title if he wasn't pinned? So Sting wins the Main Event, which also involves the World Champion, and doesn't become the champ? Dumb.
Really? No, I like that finish and stipulation. They didn't explain it that well (they never do), but, yeah, I thought it was pretty clear that nobody loses their sacrifice if they're not pinned. I think it's neat in that it takes away the "Champ loses without being pinned" thing (or, more specifically, the "you can become champ without pinning the champ" thing -- not that I'm against that per se, but it's something different) and I'd like to see this match every Sacrifice.

I TOTALLY blew this match in my predictions, but I still suspect that Jarrett will be the one to take the belt off Foley (*yawn*).

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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.00
    Originally posted by used2bcool

    Ultimate Sacrifice Match: Sting pinned Kurt Angle to become the new leader of the MEM in 14 minutes. Again, entertaining action, but was I the only one who failed to realize that Foley wouldn't lose the title if he wasn't pinned? So Sting wins the Main Event, which also involves the World Champion, and doesn't become the champ? Dumb.


I'm not a huge TNA fan, but the friend I watched this with is and he thought the title was on the line, too. It wasn't until Foley sat down at started doing commentary and mentioned how he couldn't lose the title if he wasn't pinned that we understood.

And to be fair, I don't think even the referee was really sure what was going on. After Sting got the pin, you'll see the ref in the ring with the title belt, looking like he's trying to give it to Sting. After that, the ref goes and talks to Jarrett, like he's trying to figure out what's going, then he finally leaves the ring with the belt, gives it to Foley, and comes back to raise Sting's hand.
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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.18
    Originally posted by Caliban
      Originally posted by used2bcool

      Ultimate Sacrifice Match: Sting pinned Kurt Angle to become the new leader of the MEM in 14 minutes. Again, entertaining action, but was I the only one who failed to realize that Foley wouldn't lose the title if he wasn't pinned? So Sting wins the Main Event, which also involves the World Champion, and doesn't become the champ? Dumb.


    I'm not a huge TNA fan, but the friend I watched this with is and he thought the title was on the line, too. It wasn't until Foley sat down at started doing commentary and mentioned how he couldn't lose the title if he wasn't pinned that we understood.

    And to be fair, I don't think even the referee was really sure what was going on. After Sting got the pin, you'll see the ref in the ring with the title belt, looking like he's trying to give it to Sting. After that, the ref goes and talks to Jarrett, like he's trying to figure out what's going, then he finally leaves the ring with the belt, gives it to Foley, and comes back to raise Sting's hand.


Given these two facts:

1) Foley's sacrifice was that the title was on the line.
2) Every other wrestler only lost their sacrifice if they were pinned.

... I don't understand how one could have thought Foley would lose the title if not pinned.

(edited by TheBucsFan on 25.5.09 2019)
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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.15
I thought this was a very transitional PPV. For all intensive purposes the MEM is done and will take a backseat while Kurt vs. Sting and they have to deal with their woman situation. It will allow AJ vs. Joe, Jarrett vs. Foley and the rest of the roster to focus on other more interesting feuds. It also won't shock me to see the end of the MEM on Thursday where Kurt either renames or disbands it just to piss off Sting. I will say I am hoping we can move past Kong for the title and see other Knockouts try to get the belt.
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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.54
    Originally posted by Karlos the Jackal

      Originally posted by used2bcool
      Ultimate Sacrifice Match: Sting pinned Kurt Angle to become the new leader of the MEM in 14 minutes. Again, entertaining action, but was I the only one who failed to realize that Foley wouldn't lose the title if he wasn't pinned? So Sting wins the Main Event, which also involves the World Champion, and doesn't become the champ? Dumb.
    Really? No, I like that finish and stipulation. They didn't explain it that well (they never do), but, yeah, I thought it was pretty clear that nobody loses their sacrifice if they're not pinned. I think it's neat in that it takes away the "Champ loses without being pinned" thing (or, more specifically, the "you can become champ without pinning the champ" thing -- not that I'm against that per se, but it's something different) and I'd like to see this match every Sacrifice.



I agree. I understood the match and I like the stipulation but Sting pins Angle to win it? That's surprising. Didn't he put his career on the line just to get the World Title back? Did Sting just swerve Angle by making him think he wanted the World Title when he actually wanted to have control of the MEM? That would be unusually smart on Sting's part.

This PPV was better than I expected and I look forward to what they've possibly set up for the future other than Jarrett/Foley. Angle/Sting, AJ/Joe, Stevie/Abyss, 3D/Beer Money/Invasion, Daniels/Suicide/MCMG/Lethal Consequences, Angelina/Kong are all interesting.



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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.64
I've missed the last couple of Impacts and won't catch the PPV until it airs here on Wednesday but was it ever explained what would happen if any of the other participants had pinned Angle? Could Jarrett have ended up as the leader of the MEM for example? That's not a knock on the gimmick because I really liked the concept of the match and agree it would be cool to have it as an annual thing like they have with Lethal Lockdown and King of the Mountain.



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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.81
    Originally posted by Quezzy

    I agree. I understood the match and I like the stipulation but Sting pins Angle to win it? That's surprising. Didn't he put his career on the line just to get the World Title back? Did Sting just swerve Angle by making him think he wanted the World Title when he actually wanted to have control of the MEM? That would be unusually smart on Sting's part.







Better to pin someone and win something you might not want than wait for a chance at pinning Foley for the title and getting shockingly pinned to lose your career. A bird in hand is better than 2 in the bush.
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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.62
    Originally posted by redsoxnation
      Originally posted by Quezzy

      I agree. I understood the match and I like the stipulation but Sting pins Angle to win it? That's surprising. Didn't he put his career on the line just to get the World Title back? Did Sting just swerve Angle by making him think he wanted the World Title when he actually wanted to have control of the MEM? That would be unusually smart on Sting's part.







    Better to pin someone and win something you might not want than wait for a chance at pinning Foley for the title and getting shockingly pinned to lose your career. A bird in hand is better than 2 in the bush.


But then why enter the match if those were his priorities?



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