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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.82
... at least I think that was the title, and I actually missed the whole Angle saga, because of the NBA Draft what I did see wasn't great.

AJ Styles vs Consequences Creed

I like Creed's look, but his name sucks. The match was very underwhelming. I was expecting more especially with the prematch hype of these two having a history together. It led to AJ being told about the Angles.

Christian vs Brother Ray

Brother Ray just doesn't job, but gets DQ's via shenanigans with Devine and a kendo stick. A glass table is brought out by Devon and Tomko. Christian is Superbombed through it. It looks okay, but the trainer coming in has a bunch of towels kind of exposing the one inside which looks red. Moments later the one he is applying to Cage's back is blood splotched. The whole thing comes off kind of dumb.

Awesome Kong challenge. She squashes some small girl with great tits. Taylor from last week wants some. Challenges Sayid? Are financial backers fair game?

Team Mexico vs Team Japan

Team Japan is fast and crisp. Team Mexico looks really sloppy. Team Mexico wins. This tournament should be used to get Team Japan over, these guys can go.

Sonjay Dutt comes down with children ... I don't think so ...

... back from the Draft

Nash vs Booker T

You know what? I don't care how great Nash looks in the back or as an enforcer his matches are absolute shit. This one just reinforces that fact. Terrible match. Booker T wins from Joe/Nash oopsies.

As great as the Nash/Joe feud has been built, this thing should not happen as a headline to any PPV. Kevin Nash should not be allowed to do anything but talk and maybe tag.

A really bad show. Team Japan looked good, but didn't even win. This figures since I was just starting to like the show.

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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.88

It must have been weird for Ultimo and Bucanero to work as tecnicos.

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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.97
I only saw the X Cup tag match, which I really enjoyed--although, since when can two guys get the pin in a tag match?
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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.00
    Originally posted by Peter The Hegemon
    I only saw the X Cup tag match, which I really enjoyed--although, since when can two guys get the pin in a tag match?
ESPECIALLY since the ref, earlier in the same match, refused to count a pin because both Team Japan guys were in the ring at the same time.

I didn't think the show was that bad -- a significant drop off from the last two weeks, but nothing egregiously stupid, either, which is a net gain.

The "glass" table was a nice visual for future highlight reels.

Most of the matches weren't as good as they looked on paper -- I agree with Loco about the Creed vs. Styles match, and, to a lesser extent, the X Cup match -- that one had some neat stuff and it kept me smiling. (Not nearly as good as the Team Japan vs. MMG match, though.)

The Kong challenge wasn't that great either -- Kong could barely get the girl, Danielle, up for the Kong Bomb -- I dunno whose fault it was, but Kong seemed even more peevish than usual afterward, kicking Danielle onto the floor.

    Originally posted by BigDaddyLoco
    Challenges Sayid? Are financial backers fair game?
Well, Saeed's wrestled (once) before, so she's fair game.

I'm not excited by Lethal/Dutt right now. I did like the part where Jay was talking about the ruined wedding in his "Macho" voice, and Val said that they are going to postpone the wedding. Lethal, immediately switching to his normal voice: "Uh, you never told me that." Heh.

Oh, also, Dutt using children as shields is pretty excellent.

ODB vs. Moose -- also disappointing. These two could have an awesome, bloody brawl if TNA let them, but this was like an old WWE Hardcore match, shopping cart of plunder and all. At least there were no cookie sheets.

And, yeah, the Booker/Nash match. That was pretty bad. My favorite part was Don West claiming that Nash looks better every week, when in fact he looks like a Kris Kristofferson mugshot.

Okay, so yeah. The wrestling didn't live up to expectations, but at least they weren't trying to be stupid, which is something of a sea change.


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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.40
I know what kind of flak this will catch, but I again call for a significant singles push for Brother Ray. Face, heel -- I don't care. Give him the mic, let him beat up people. He's an arrogant, mean New Yorker with a history of hardcore violence and a bad attitude toward women. He can sell like a champ and work comedy matches if need be. Let him do exactly what we saw Scott Steiner do for the past year.

I also think he could have a fantastic feud with Abyss.

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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.76
I may have liked this show more than the rest of you guys, but the main event did taint things a bit. I do think Nash LOOKS as good as he has in years, but his body is just DONE. He more or less admits it on screen, too. It adds realism to his character, but that's about it.

Matt Tracker, I agree with most of your points about Brother Ray, but IMO he seems to fall in the same category as Nash. Gold on the mic, but mediocre at best in the ring. I would still rather watch him than Nash, for sure. The benefit he has over Nash is that if he got into better shape, it would help his performance a great deal. Nash is in decent shape but still sucks. Ray also has too much of the stench of tag wrestler after all these years to be a serious singles threat at this point. It's not like he is Shawn or Bret going single in their primes.

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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.82
The thing about Brother Ray is that he looks great beating on little guys like Spike Dudley or whomever today's X-Divisioner is ... he looks fat and slow against a guy his size. He is a bully, needs to play the bully and needs to trash a littler guy. The only way a feud with Abyss would work is if it featured a lot of D-Von 'evening the odds' or tilting the scale towards Ray being a bully again

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I really don't buy into that "he must be the greatest champion ever, he's held the belt the most amount of times" theory. Surely that means he's also lost the belt the most as well?
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