Comparing Jim Cornette to Vince Russo is like comparing a steak to a vial of anthrax.
To those who say people wouldn't look; they wouldn't be interested; they're too complacent, indifferent and insulated, I can only reply: There is, in one reporter's opinion, considerable evidence against that contention. But even if they are right, what have they got to lose? Because if they are right, and this instrument is good for nothing but to entertain, amuse and insulate, then the tube is flickering now and we will soon see that the whole struggle is lost. This instrument can teach, it can illuminate; yes, and it can even inspire. But it can do so only to the extent that humans are determined to use it to those ends. Otherwise it is merely wires, and lights, in a box.-Edward R. Murrow
Originally posted by canis582For creative or just on screen?
TNA started an angle last week where a new authority figure representing "the new face of TNA" has taken over but has yet to appear. I'd assume Cornette will be playing that part.
According to Meltz, though, he's having surgery and won't be available for such a role for a couple of months. That would be a heck of a long time to run such an angle. Then again, I don't know who else they could use. Maybe Jimmy Hart?
Any guesses as to who Sting's "mystery partner" will be? (If you've got spoilers, I don't want to know. Just speculation.) Given who they've brought in as teases, you'd think it would be someone from the nWo--Scott Hall, maybe? Savage would fit, but I can't see them giving him what he would want (which would probably be a title run).
Originally posted by Peter The HegemonAccording to Meltz, though, he's having surgery and won't be available for such a role for a couple of months. That would be a heck of a long time to run such an angle. Then again, I don't know who else they could use. Maybe Jimmy Hart?
When I first saw them hinting at it, I actually assumed it was going to be Hart.
As far as Cornette's concerned, I get the impression that his negotiations with TNA are more recent (correct me if I'm wrong), even though they've been playing up the new "authority figure" angle for longer than that. I'd really hope that this wouldn't be a case of TNA starting an angle before they know where they're going with it, but it also wouldn't surprise me (especially since I've suspected that to be the case with the whole Jackie Gayda thing from Day 1).
I also have to wonder if Cornette owning part of OVW, with speculation that ECW could be taking the developmental talent away, has anything to do with this since him and Heyman had so much heat with each other in the past. On second thought, wouldn't make much sense for it to just come to a head now since The E replaced Cornette with Heyman (in his role with WWE Developmental).
Originally posted by canis582Also, why is Gail Kim being put over by AJ Styles?
That was a nice ending to the match, and Gail had done virtually nothing on the weekly shows save argue with Jackie. When Jeff had the belt, the Jackie angle was getting a lot of airtime. She was in on five-minute promos and skits every week. Now, she's onscreen for maybe 30 seconds a week.
"To be the man, you gotta beat demands." -- The Lovely Mrs. Tracker
Originally posted by Mayhem Doesn't Jimmy Hart have one of those legends deals with WWE, thus preventing him from an on-camera role with TNA?
I don't think that's how the legends deals work, since it is my understanding that Sabu has one, and still works per-appearances for TNA. If I'm understanding correctly, these aren't exclusive deals to keep them from working in competing promotions, they're just a deal that allows that if the WWE wants to put out a series of "Glory Days of ECW" action figures, they don't have to get in touch with Sabu and make a whole new arrangement, they already have a deal that says what his cut will be.
Take that with a grain of salt, though. It is primarily inference from things I've read on this board...
"I tear my quadracep all the time! I tore it this morning, I'm fine! I'm here, I'm jumpin' around..." -- Kurt Angle
Cornette has never owned any part of ovw, he is just really tight with Danny Davis. In fact that is one of the reason's they have the developmental contract, The agreement was with Danny Davis and the ovw school and not with ovw booker Cornette. Davis supposedly kept Cornette around much longer than WWE wanted out of loyalty, but with the threat of losing free high grade talent (remember, Vince pays those boys, Danny Davis sure as hell does not) to another training facility (ie Deep South) he caved in and let them shit can Cornette on the verbal abuse charges. I am a huge fan as Cornette the performer, but his booking was getting really stale and the guys on developmental deals were complaining of "getting trained for 1987". I work in Louisville and know folks that have worked at ovw right since there inception. And they say that over the last year or so all that matters is what Stamford wants. And that developmental people have conference calls from all sorts of folks from writers, to agents and so forth every week. If you watch ovw tv every week you see future wwe storylines you just don't know it. (ie spirit squad uniforms were on tv weeks before they debuted, they were just never explained) BTW Heyman is there booking tv, but Aaron Stevens books the house shows so Heyman can play mad scientist. Sorry if I hijacked this thread into o ovw thread.
Originally posted by canis582I watched most of it last night. The fed is sort of promising, but not as long as Double J, Steiner and the Nitro class of '99 is featured. Also, why is Gail Kim being put over by AJ Styles?
Sorry, Cornette rules...I watched my copy of Matt Long's best wrestling interviews and he had about 15 minutes straight of various interviews where he whips up the southern crowds into a nice lather.
The Class of '99 is being brought in as a suggestion but nobody from that era has been selected yet. Sting's partner may not be from that era but then again it could also be Mongo because I believe Jarret and Mongo have some history. I'm really hoping all the older guys were brought in as a swerve and it turns out to be someone new. Come to think of it, Road Dogg was Double JJ's roadie at one point.
I like the Kim and Styles bit and that match. I'm not that big on Daniels and Styles as a team though.
Cornette does rule and he is one of the reaon's why I miss managers and valets.
If he is allowed to come on TV and cut a bitter, anti-WWE promo, I am all for it. His rants back on Raw in '97/'98 were great. Although, if they let Joey Styles bash their own product on their own show, I guess I can settle for that.
Originally posted by Peter The HegemonAccording to Meltz, though, he's having surgery and won't be available for such a role for a couple of months. That would be a heck of a long time to run such an angle.
I could actually see TNA dragging this out for months, inasmuch as "the new face of TNA" is already making executive decisions from behind the scenes and doesn't have to introduce himself to exert his authority. The only plot hole is that Larry Zybysko is incapable of learning who this guy is, and everyone he asks either knows but won't tell him or doesn't seem to care.
Quite a rambling podcast. You guys like to say the F word a lot. The real question is who is ignoring you guys. I think an investigation is in order. I tuned out most at the ROH stuff. I think we just need a thehyphenw.com podcast.