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The recap for TNA Impact 8.19.2010, taped from the Impact Zone in Orlando, FL.

We open with a wild brawl between Jeff Hardy and Abyss which is from "About half an hour ago." They start backstage and eventually make their way to the Impact Zone, where the setup for the show is still going on. Kendo sticks, chairs, and extension cords get involved. They make their way to the outside where security break it up. The idea was good but the execution not so much. There was hardly any intensity; it came off as pretty tame. I also did not need to see Jeff Hardy's asscrack. 0 for 1.

Eric Bischoff comes down to the ring to tell everyone that he's never seen anything as horrific as last week in 20 years. He says he hold Ric Flair responsible and apologizes to Dixie Carter. He says what happened to RVD was "borderline homicidal," and says Abyss has no idea what's coming to him. He says Rob's condition is far worse than expected and he's held together by 117 stitches, but the show must go on. He says they've come to a decision to vacate the title and hold a single-elimination tournament which will culminate at Bound for Glory, with the guys from the top ten participating. This tournament has some potential. 1 for 2.

Match 1: TNA Title Tournament: Jeff Hardy over Rob Terry via Swanton Bomb in 3 minutes. Terry sucks and Hardy was way off his game, botching both spots at the finish. 1 for 3.

Hogan is on the phone backstage, thinking about quitting. He says taking out RVD is like taking out the President because no one can replace RVD as champion. He says he doesn't like the idea of the tournament.

Match 2: TNA Title Tournament: Mr. Anderson over Jay Lethal vis Mic Check in 4 minutes. Decent enough match, and a better outing than the first one. A bit more time would've helped them, but this was good for what it was. 2 for 4.

Christy Hemme tells Angelina Love that Madison Rayne has invoked her rematch clause. Angie calls Rayne a mini-me and tells her that the only way Rayne can get the title is if she can pry it from Angie's cold, dead hands. She begged Rayne to bring her bodyguard because Angie's got some backup of her own.

Match 3: TNA Kockouts Title: Angelina Love over Madison Rayne via Botox Injection in 2 minutes. Velvet was Angie's backup and there was a four-way brawl before the match. Velvet thwarted Bike Chick's interference attempts, allowing Love to get the pin. Postmatch, the Original Beautiful People celebrate but Rayne and Bike Chick choke them out. More story than match. 2 for 5.

Flair comes down to the ring, surrounded by Fortune. He says he's added a little European flavor, and has a new 6'11" insurance policy, Matt Morgan. He puts a verbal hurting on EV2.0, calling them a circus act. He calls them undisciplined animals. "I dare you to call yourselves wrestlers!" He tells EV2.0 that until one of them can crash in a plane and talk about it, they can kiss his ass. Hehe. He says they wanted a hardcore finale, so Fortune gave it to them. AJ Styles gets on the mic, saying this is the house that AJ built. Dixie Carter interrupts, saying it might be the house that AJ built but she owns this house, and since it is her house, it is EV2.0's house. EV2.0 show up on stage. Dixie says we thought last week was the last time we'd see these guys, but she has given all of them contracts. What a load of shit. Flair gets in a nice line, "Where on my resume does it say that I take crap from a woman?" Foley gets on the mic to tell him that he regrets the call he made to hire Flair. Flair tells him to go home and watch while Fortune takes names and kicks asses. Flair says he works only for Ric Flair and Fortune. Dreamer says they will take care of Abyss the way they know how. Dreamer says tonight, he will take on AJ Styles. Flair was great in that promo, but the story sucks. EV2.0 sucks and so does most hardcore wrestling. Dixie Carter needs to go home and keep her head in the business side of things because if I see her on TV ever again, it will be too soon. 2 for 6.

Kurt Angle reiterates that he is only 3 matches away from being TNA champion again.

Match 4: Kurt Angle over Doug Williams via Ankle Lock in 5 minutes. These guys have similar styles and good chemistry. This made me interested in seeing them go at it longer. 3 for 7.

Nash and Sting head down to the ring. I can see Karlos fast-forwarding already. Nash says he respects Sting more than anyone in the business. Nash mentions that he's been called a cancer before but after 20 years and 28 operations, he can safely say he's not here just for the money. He says TNA is "this close" to turning the corner, but can't because of the cancer in the back. Nash promises to reveal the truth but Jeff Jarrett interrupts, calling Nash full of BS. He says Nash will never change. Jeff says he could open the closet door and let all the skeletons (and Orlando Jordan) out about Sting. He says there's a locker room full of people who are sick of Sting and Nash. Jeff says TNA has gotten better since Bischoff and Hogan got here. He says he knows the secret, Nash and Sting are upset the spotlight is not shining on them. Oh, the irony. Jeff says he's gonna beat them up, and Hogan joins him. There's no one on my screen right now that deserves to be there. Just as Jeff and Hogan reach the ring, lights go out and Fortune start beating the crap out of everyone, except I think Hogan. 3 for 8.

Backstage, Raven and Dreamer agree to co-exist. Raven says they should've killed them, but they didn't, and they will make mistakes.

Match 5: TNA Title Tournament: D'Angelo Dinero over Matt Morgan via DDE in 5 minutes. Decent match, Morgan looked dominant in the loss. 4 for 9.

No Surrender will have the semi-finals and the final will be at Bound for Glory. Good planning.

Mick Foley reiterates that he is with EV2.0. Was there evey any doubt?

Match 6: Non-Title: AJ Styles over Tommy Dreamer via Sportz-Entertainment Finish(tm) in 7 minutes. Fortune come down to the ring about halfway, only to be interrupted by EV2.0 and triggering a brawl. Abyss emerged from the mess and nailed Dreamer with the Black Hole Slam for the win. I don't remember the Dreamer of ECW and whatever I saw of him in the WWE wasn't very good, so I didn't expect this match to be good, and it wasn't. 4 for 10.

Wrestling Counter: 26 minutes.

The Score: 4 for 10: I know every show can't be like "The Whole F'n Show," but this was too much talk and too little wrestling. Even the big title tournament got so little time that it felt not very important. Fortune has the potential to be a good stable but right now they have no credible opponents. With RVD gone, where's the money match? Who can wrestle on the EV2.0 side? I have no interest in seeing any of them wrestle. And as much as I found the Nash/Sting/Jarrett beatdown personally gratifying, where does it lead? Apart from Bischoff's promo at the top of the hour, the entire followup to last week's ending felt undercooked and lacked (sorry for the terrible pun in advance) impact.

Aside: is there any reliable source which has the episode title every week? Usually I scour wrestling websites for recaps and try to find the name of the show but no luck today.




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Very beginning of show should have the title of it.

I notice all 4 people left in the tournament are faces. Interesting.

Good show, TNA is doing alright.



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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.00
    Originally posted by Psycho Penguin
    I notice all 4 people left in the tournament are faces. Interesting.
I didn't notice that (you're right, of course), but I did notice that in the three matches where it was an ex-WWE guy vs. a TNA "homegrown," the WWE guy went over. (The fourth match had two ex-WWE guys.) What would it hurt to let Lethal get into the semis?

Other than that, eh. I love tournaments but this one isn't doing anything for me so far. (Also, I hate "strip the title" angles.)

    Originally posted by u2bc
    I can see Karlos fast-forwarding already.
Yes, thanks for the recap 'cause woosh.


    Usually I scour wrestling websites for recaps and try to find the name of the show but no luck today.
Yeah, no title this week. They often do that when a show is joined "in progress" or it opens with something other than a recap of last week.

The addition of the ECW guys has caused the TNA roster to hit "critical mass" of Guys I Just Do Not Give A Shit About. I am FFWDing more than ever.

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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.51
So Hernandez doesn't get to be in the tourney, but Rob Terry does? There's something seriously wrong here, unless Hernandez is hurt again.

So is RVD injured legit or did he busted for drugs again or something? Because I can't think of any good reason why they had to write him out and take the title off him?

All of EV2.0 is under contract now? Ohhhh...this won't end well at all. And I'm not loving the EV2.0/Evolution 2.0 feud.




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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.86
TNA have used up all of RVD's contractual dates for the year so they had to write him out. Vintage Dixie!

I'm guessing the EV2.0 guys are on pay-per-appearance deals. Still, what a waste of time.
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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.94
    Originally posted by It's False
    So Hernandez doesn't get to be in the tourney, but Rob Terry does? There's something seriously wrong here, unless Hernandez is hurt again.


Actually what they said about the tournament didn't match what they did. Bischoff said that the tourney would have the top-ten contenders, and I assumed it would be the top eight guys, and the old 1v8, 2v7, 3v6, 4v5 format. But Terry is #10, Morgan and Doug Williams aren't even in the top ten. Abyss and AJ Styles have other issues going on. Joe has disappeared. And the end result is that no one, including TNA, gives a damn about the top-ten rankings. Not that it's a big surprise, but I think they should at least pretend to care.



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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.56
If Fortune continues to take out the EV 2.0 as well the rest of the older wrestlers then it will be worth it. Its an angle that should be set-up for someone like Joe or Hernandez or a bunch of younger wrestlers to come in to save the day. Fortune minus Flair mostly young guys anyway, so they already are pushing young talent. Flair's line about "Not taking crap from women." was awesome, the rest no so much. I almost forgot that Kennedy wrestled for TNA, Hardy and Kurt not so much due to what they did. Of course, we can bitch about the Ex-WWE guys holding the WCW belt or the ex-WCW/ECW guys holding the WWE during Attitude era, but why bother, people take different roads to get where they are today, so why nitpick.

I do think Rob should have jobbed to Kurt or someone instead of being strip of the title. If RVD's dates are up, I except Flair to be next just in time to induct Arn into the Hall of Fame. The rest of the show was just there tonight even with the Love/Sky reunion. They need to be heels and they also need to start pushing or getting in some new female faces. I also hope they start putting more focus on the World Title Tournament instead of Fortune next, but we will see.
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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.86
    Originally posted by lotjx
    If Fortune continues to take out the EV 2.0 as well the rest of the older wrestlers then it will be worth it. Its an angle that should be set-up for someone like Joe or Hernandez or a bunch of younger wrestlers to come in to save the day.


Is there anything, ANYTHING, in TNA's history that makes you think this is how they will book it. Nice goalpost-moving, too - after Hardcore Justice your refrain was "this was great as long as the ECW stuff is a one-off". Why the change?

Also, counting Steve Austin, HHH and Mick Foley solely as "ex ECW/WCW guys" would be pushing it. Were Kurt Angle, Jeff Hardy and Ken Anderson jobbing undercarders during their WWE stints?

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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.56
Kurt won the title in his first year, Jeff was part of a tag team that won the title in their first year and Kennedy won Money in the Bank in year one or two of his career. Austin and Foley started off and were known in WCW, but in ECW their careers took off thanks to Heyman giving guys a lot more freedom to do what they want then WCW every did. They threw on mask on Foley and turned Steve into the Ringmaster, so I am not sure what that says.

I don't think its a change since my hope is that we are done with EV 2.0 after Hard Justice. Hard Justice should have been it for them, but if they want to use them as cannon fodder for Fortune until a face of young guys comes along I am good with it.If it leads to two months of feuding between the two factions then its an utter waste of time. I just want EV 2.0 gone since they really are just keeping the rest of the company down at this point.

Fortune is a more established youth movement where you can easily buy they will take over especially with Flair being the mouthpiece, but he has to tone down the interrupting stuff that was annoying last night and give someone else the mic. The best part of the Horsemen was everyone got to talk. Fortune looks like the Horsemen expect the British dude, he didn't seem to get the memo. They need to act the part which is giving mic time to those guys to let them explain why they joined and what their goals are. So far, they seem to be Flair's flunkies which is not what is needed here. I am a little shocked AJ wasn't in the title hunt, so this an angle tailored made for him to get the belt and dominate.

As for who is going to stop them, I don't know. I liked Frontline vs. MEM, it had some nice moments and good matches, but it needed an end. My hope is that they thought this through with a beginning, middle and end instead of letting Flair cut 20 minute promos while everyone stands around and the matches are younger experienced against older borderline hasbeens. MCMG, Joe and a few others already have built in storylines for them to join up and push their younger talent.
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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.03
That Jeff Hardy/Rob Terry match was the single worst wrestling match I've seen in a very long time.
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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.86
Scuttlebutt is Fourtune/EV2.0 running all the way to Bound For Glory. So yeah, it's a waste of time.

And sorry, Fourtune isn't a youth movement. It's a "TNA guys who've been poorly booked for years" movement.

I just feel like you're certain of stuff happening that isn't there. Your posts read like fantasy best-case scenarios being put forward as near-inevitabilities. It'd be like me watching how Evan Bourne's being booked right now and saying "well if this leads to him winning the Rumble and main-eventing WrestleMania I am fine with this".
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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.09
    Originally posted by lotjx
    Kurt won the title in his first year, Jeff was part of a tag team that won the title in their first year and Kennedy won Money in the Bank in year one or two of his career. Austin and Foley started off and were known in WCW, but in ECW their careers took off thanks to Heyman giving guys a lot more freedom to do what they want then WCW every did. They threw on mask on Foley and turned Steve into the Ringmaster, so I am not sure what that says.



Austin's and Foley's careers took off in ECW? Really?

Ah, yes, right, because the only thing WWE did with them was making Austin the Ringmaster and Foley Mankind. And nothing else happened after that, right? Their careers didn't take off in WWE, right?

Yeah, WWE really sucks as far as making huge stars that are known worldwide (e. g. Superstar Steve Austin from ECW fame) is concerned.
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What I caught of the show suggested great potential but fell just short.

The Anderson/Lethal match, short as it was, should not have featured such a long stretch of a pinfall after one move. That's something you do in the third act of a long bout. Those crazy initial Anderson pops were diluted during the match, making me wonder if the crowd had burned themselves out during the taping of the first episode.

They did, however, go crazy for Hogan during the WCW veteran segment. That response seemed to prove Jarrett correct when he claimed Hogan was the biggest box-office draw in wrestling's history. Still, I genuinely don't care about these characters. They're not involved in major storylines (although the beatdown can draw them into a three-way feud with Fortune and EV2.0) and I don't see them bringing anything in the ring. It's a very recognizable gang of "eh."

Angle/Williams was nice, mainly for the smart subplot of Angle moving up the ranks like Randy Couture. Angle was used perfectly in the match.

The Reaction bits with Anderson and MCMG are fantastic, and I'd much prefer all the backstage material to be presented this way. TNA could better distinguish themselves from WWE by eliminating the cliched interview/monologue skits, including the one-question interview in front of a logo.Yes, TNA, I'm asking you to push the production team.

I'm very concerned the biker chick is going to be Ivory. But I don't think Ivory would look that good in that suit.



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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.26
I don't have a link, but I read that Van Dam had asked for time off due to a family emergency.

Having said that, even though I like tournamanents, I think that since AJ jobbed to give RVD the title - RVD could have done the same for someone else.



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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.56
    Originally posted by Tyler Durden
      Originally posted by lotjx
      Kurt won the title in his first year, Jeff was part of a tag team that won the title in their first year and Kennedy won Money in the Bank in year one or two of his career. Austin and Foley started off and were known in WCW, but in ECW their careers took off thanks to Heyman giving guys a lot more freedom to do what they want then WCW every did. They threw on mask on Foley and turned Steve into the Ringmaster, so I am not sure what that says.



    Austin's and Foley's careers took off in ECW? Really?

    Ah, yes, right, because the only thing WWE did with them was making Austin the Ringmaster and Foley Mankind. And nothing else happened after that, right? Their careers didn't take off in WWE, right?

    Yeah, WWE really sucks as far as making huge stars that are known worldwide (e. g. Superstar Steve Austin from ECW fame) is concerned.


Both were fired from WCW and when they went to ECW and there they got noticed by WWE. Foley's book says that WWE never looked at him twice even when JR was pushing for him. WWE didn't pick up Austin right away til he started cutting the promos on WCW. Their careers were stagnant in WCW til they got shitcanned and ECW picked them up and helped groomed their personalities til WWE picked them up. WWE got them, because their careers were restarted in ECW.

As for their WWE tenure, Austin was hella boring as Ringmaster til he became the Austin we know and love which ironically enough was the same Austin he was basically playing in ECW. The original idea for Foley was throw him into a Man in the Iron Mask outfit til Foley convinced Vince to make it a leather mask as well as adding the background behind the character. WWE does a good job of promoting stars, no doubt, but in ECW Foley and Austin learned their craft and were big stars for that company. They got "You sold out" chants from various crowds their first year, so its not like they magically appeared in WWE then were instant stars well maybe Foley since Mankind was having great feuds with Taker, but he wouldn't have been there without being big in ECW same goes for Austin.
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I agree that if RVD had at least one more date, it should have been used to drop the title. This was lame. Do the right thing, and drop the belt. Has he even jobbed since he joined TNA? I like the guy, and have rarely heard bad things about him backstage, but this seems odd.

Even thought the brackets were bizarre due to who was and who wasn't included, I am fine with the Final 4. Should lead to some decent matches, and I think we will see Anderson take the belt at BFG.

Constantly seeing Jeff's crack pixalated (sp?) totally ruined what could have been a decent brawl to open the show. Then again, if I actually saw his crack it may have had the same effect.

I dig Fortune taking out any old guys who try to steal their spotlight, but it is ironic that Flair, the biggest geezer on the roster, is right there in the mix.




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Very frustrating show after last weeks excellent show. Rob Terry is a joke that makes Batista of -02-03 look great. All the matches were much too short. I liked Angle's storyline of moving up the ranks but now we've got another tourney. IMO a tournament for the world title with only eight guys in it taking two months is way too long. Williams Vs Angle was really really good and you wish it would have gotten 8-10 more minutes. I thought Styles carried Dreamer to an okish match. Fortune has a ton of talent in it but I hate the fact that Flair is the leader and everyone is his minions standing in the background. Dixie Carter has a tiny bit more personality than Linda McMahon. Get her off of TV. The EV2 guys add nothing IMO. I rather Fortune be feuding with Lethal-Joe-MCMG-Hernandez among others. Gotta laugh at Jarrett being Hogan and Bischoff's greatest defender because only a few months ago he acted like they were the worst thing since loafed bread. The X Division couldn't be deader and the Knockouts division is flat lining too.

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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.94
    Originally posted by kentish
    I agree that if RVD had at least one more date, it should have been used to drop the title. This was lame. Do the right thing, and drop the belt.


He didn't need "one more date". Just do it in one of his last dates. It would have been easy enough to do it at Hardcore Justice or on the free-per-view.

It also seems really stupid to announce you're stripping someone because he needed lots of stitches, and then set up a tournament to last two months. In kayfabe terms, there would be no reason to think he couldn't be ready to defend his belt by Bound for Glory anyway.
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It's a good thing that Douglas Williams brought his X-Division title out with him last night because I totally forgot their was an X-Division in TNA (then again, considering they didn't even give an X-Division match last week on the "big show", I'd guess TNA forgot about it, as well).

So, going into Bound for Glory, the main feuds are EV2 vs. Flair (w/ Fortune in tow), Hogan/Jarrett vs. Nash and Sting, and a tournament for the championship with all former WWE guys (which we know that Kurt will win due to their idiotic "if I get pinned, I retire stipulation". Perhaps after Bound for Glory, they'll rename the next pay-per-view to "One Last Stand... This time we really mean it!"

I did love the Angle/Williams match, though. Hopefully we'll get more of that down the road. The counter from the Chaos Theory into the ankle lock was really cool.

I'm so sick of the Beautiful People, though. I like them but they've been so overexposed on television it's just tiring - I'd *say* that with the Velvet/Angelina reunion, at least we might see some different faces like Sarita, Hamada, or Wilde but this is TNA so we'll probably just end up with more Rayne/Love/Sky stuff.

Thanks for playing, Jay Lethal. :/ All four of those that made it to the semi-finals could have taken a loss. Would it have killed them to elevate Lethal a bit? I sure wouldn't have minded a Lethal/Angle final.

The bits in the back might be good but are they necessary considering you have an entire hour after Impact devoted to that stuff?
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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.78
    Originally posted by Karlos the Jackal
      Originally posted by Psycho Penguin
      I notice all 4 people left in the tournament are faces. Interesting.
    I didn't notice that (you're right, of course), but I did notice that in the three matches where it was an ex-WWE guy vs. a TNA "homegrown," the WWE guy went over. (The fourth match had two ex-WWE guys.) What would it hurt to let Lethal get into the semis?

    --K


Hell, they could have re-created one of the WWF's biggest tournaments ever: The finale to WM4~!
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