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The W - Pro Wrestling - TNA Impact 11.20.2008 - "Leadership, Divided"
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Since: 5.11.08
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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.22
TNA Impact Report for 11.20.2008 from the Impact Zone:

- The show kicks off with Kurt Angle promising a proper burial for Christian Cage, which sounds too much like a rehash of several of WWE's Undertaker/Kane feuds.

- And they do roll out a casket! Ha! It's got a Christian Cage picture on it, as well. Angle says that since Christian refused to commit to TNA, they beat him within an inch of his life and sent it back to the E. Another reference, me no like. He hypes the match at Final Resolution, then offers an open mic to anyone in the back who has issues, leading to the entry of Rhino. Bleh. So that's why he was in that match last week. He and Nash trade insults and borderline shoot comments, and Rhino calls them all bitches. Booker puts in his two cents, which includes a comparison of the testicular areas of Rhino and Booker's dog, and that's enough provocation for Rhino to try and jump them. That's dumb, and he gets his ass handed to him on a platter, including a Legend's Title shot, which busts him open. Angle, like a good heel should, claws at that wound. Then they dump him in the coffin. Well, at least they put it to use.

- Elsewhere, Jeff Jarrett says he's taking back the house. Huh? Elsewhere still, AJ Styles motivates the Originals, before MCMG show disrespect again. MUTINY! Foley makes MCMG v Joe/AJ for later tonight.

Match 1: Jay Lethal and Consequences Creed over Sonjay Dutt and Hiroshi Tanahashi in about 2-and-a-half minutes when Creed pinned Dutt with the TKO. Eh. Too short to be entertaining.

- Backstage, Lauren lets the Beautiful People know that Christy Hemme has a partner in Sojourner Bolt. Velvet makes fun of that name. Who wouldn't? Angelina wants to know why "Christy Hemme is still playing wrestler?" BURN~! Kip gets bleeped out for saying "Suck it."

- Elsewhere, Jim Cornette rails on Shane Sewell and reverses the decision from last week and makes Bashir the champ again. EY gets a match against Booker T for the Legends Title. I'm lost on that logic. Oh, and Sewell is on probation.

Match 2: The Beautiful People over Christy Hemme and Sojourner Bolt in about 3 minutes when Love pinned Hemme with the Lights Out. Well, Bolt was pretty good, and Angelina was probably the best of the bunch. Sky is improving, but Hemme needs to not wrestle until she can find a proper answer to the question Angelina asked earlier.

- Rough Cut on Homicide includes a story about tampons and bullets. You gotta check it out.

ODB's Angle: Ugh. ODB does all she can to establish that she's no Karen, including no-selling her guest Sharmell's answers. This goes on and on without leading to anything until finally they get catty and ODB challenges Sharmelle to a match at Final Resolution. Yuck.

- In the back, Angle offers Foley some prospective main events for Final Resolution: Angle v Jarrett and Winner of tonight's Joe/Styles-MCMG and two partners v the Main Event Mafia. That second one tickles my taste buds.

Match 3: Samoa Joe and AJ Styles over MCMG in about 8 minutes when Styles pinned Shelley with the Styles Clash. What this doesn't tell you is that there was a 4-minute commercial break in the middle of this match that ABSOLUTELY KILLED it. I hate TNA for pulling this shit time and time again. The MEM do a beatdown on the two Originals (again, Sting does not participate), and Lethal and Creed try to save them but wind up getting smacked up also.

- Traci has no new opponents for Kong, so Raisha Saeed promises a Kong eating frenzy. I was hoping for a debuting Knockout, instead this is what I get.

- Backstage, Rhino does his warcry, while wiping out the MCMGs. That was the first real entertaining promo of the night, though the stuff from Velvet and Angie was pretty cool too.

Legends Title: Booker T over Eric Young via shenanigans and Axe Kick in about 5 minutes. This was probably the best match on the card. ODB checks on EY afterward. Well, you know who'd be the man of that couple. Or really any other couple involving ODB.

- Backstage, Team 3D rail on Beer Money and MEM at the same time. Seems as if they're real desperate to get in on the MEM action.

- Elsewhere, Awesome Kong wipes out NASCAR driver Hermie Sadler. I think that's his name. I hate NASCAR so I support Kong. What's the skill in taking 4 left turns 500 times? F1 is where the real shit is.

Match 5: MEM (Nash and Angle) over Abyss and Matt Morgan in about 11 minutes when Nash pinned Abyss with a big boot after James Storm hit him with a beer bottle. This was slow, plodding, and generally bad. Of course, all of those adjectives apply to Kevin Nash and that's probably why.

Main Event Interview: Mick Foley comes out to give a verbal blowjob to the MEM, calling them the future of TNA. Wrong there, Mick. He makes two matches for Final Resolution: 1. Sting, Booker T, Nash, and Steiner v Joe, Styles, and two partners - if MEM win, Sting retains the TNA Heavyweight Championship; if they lose, AJ Styles becomes TNA Champ. [TNA needs to die for exactly this kind of booking decisions.] 2. Kurt Angle v Rhino.

Angle calls bullshit on this matchmaking and throws a fit. He wants to know why Jarrett's a pussy and slaps Foley. Wrong man, Kurt. If Angle can't have Jarrett at Final Resolution, then he wants Foley! But Jarrett heads to the ring to stop the party and adds a stip: if Angle beats Rhino, he gets Jarrett; if Rhino beats Angle, Angle's fired. Well, that's one match that's not gonna need predicting at Final Resolution. Angle slaps HIM, so Rhino pops and GOREs him.

Wrestling Counter: 29.5 minutes, of which 8 went towards commercials.

**Well, this show emphatically kills the good-show streak TNA had developed recently. The booking decisions are puzzling and for reasons unknown to me, they're already going over the top on a storyline that was coming along so nicely.




(edited by used2bcool on 21.11.08 1118)


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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.00
Yeah, not a great show.

Rhino? They decide that the TNA Originals need more muscle, so they offer up...Rhino? Yech. I'd almost rather see Cheex come back. Nothing against Rhino, but this makes it clear that the Origs are just weak little boys who need an adult to tell them what to do.

It would have been an improvement if the Origs had run in to save Rhino from the MEM beatdown (and them not doing it, again, makes them look weak) -- then Rhino would feel indebted to them. Instead we get this "well, they need an ex-WWE veteran to whip them into shape" crap.

(Why don't they put Rhino in the MEM? He could wrestle more than Kevin Nash can and would look awesome in a suit.)

That X Division match was really garbage. The X Division is like a toy that the kid has outgrown but doesn't want to give up yet -- "I love this toy! It's really special!" "Then how come you never actually play with it?" "I dunno."

(Tanahashi is pretty excellent, though -- I like him 20 times more than Volodar.)

I was really pleased to see Cornette reverse Shane Sewell's decision -- it's the right thing to do and I wasn't expecting it.

Sojouner Bolt runs the ropes really delicately -- Hemme, at least, throws herself in there, making up a little in enthusiasm what she lacks in finesse. Love KILLED Bolt with that big boot! That was great.

u2bc is a braver man than I -- I didn't try to watch even a second of ODB's Angle. You say ODB and Sharmell are going to have a match? Yikes.

Yes, Sting didn't participate in another beatdown, but this time he watched from ringside -- at least they aren't just ignoring his non-participation. I'd like Joe and Styles to pick the MCMG as their partners but it'll probably be Lethal and Creed.

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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.03
    Originally posted by Karlos the Jackal
    I'd like Joe and Styles to pick the MCMG as their partners but it'll probably be Lethal and Creed.
    --K


Yeah, they absolutely blew their opportunity with the MCMG last night. What should have happened was after the MEM jumped Joe and AJ, the MCMG should have gotten back in the ring and saved them from the beatdown. Then they could have gone on about how they've all earned each other's respect and so on. Instead, what we got was an angle where the MEM complain that the Originals are no-good punks who don't show respect, and then the Originals get on the MCMG's case because they're no-good punks who don't show respect. Who's supposed to be the faces in that situation? I mean, I know who they're telling me the faces are, but it doesn't make a lot of sense.
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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.40
    Originally posted by Karlos the Jackal
    Yes, Sting didn't participate in another beatdown, but this time he watched from ringside -- at least they aren't just ignoring his non-participation.


All they have to do is explain that Sting, as the champ, doesn't waste energy unless he's defending the belt. It makes him arrogant and a little cowardly. It would take 2 seconds.

The MEM plot is doing nothing for me. They haven't lost a significant match, and they continue to make the Originals looks weak/stupid. It's five guys against the entire locker room. They already have the world title and the brand-new Legends belt. They are a surprisingly boring bunch to listen to, and there's no suspense for their matches. We've seen this before.

But worst of all is the desperate effort to say Angle NEEDS to beat Jarrett. But then Jarrett was only ever credible as a midcarder.

Bolt looked HORRIBLE. He jogged off the ropes and offered a damn sloppy crossbody. A very weak outing for the new girl.

Samoa Joe/Styles vs MCMG was fun stuff, and I'm always happy to watch Dutt wrestle. Otherwise, woof.



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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.90
    Originally posted by Matt Tracker
    All they have to do is explain that Sting, as the champ, doesn't waste energy unless he's defending the belt. It makes him arrogant and a little cowardly. It would take 2 seconds.



Yeah, but that would require TNA taking the 2 seconds to think of this.



(edited by thecubsfan on 21.11.08 1034)
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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.00
It's a minor thing, but ... why was that scene with AJ and the MCMG filmed in front of a bank of lockers, with Sabin for some reason wearing a backpack? Because they looked totally like high school kids (with Foley playing the role of Principal Weatherbee).

I just can't get behind Consequences Creed. He's a decent worker and a thoroughly suitable babyface, but there's just something that puts me off.

The Knockouts are really hurting by having no one to seriously challenge either Kong or the Beautiful People. ODB is over, but she's a one-note comedy character; Christy Hemme is useless; Roxxi's hardcore gimmick doesn't seem to be going anywhere.



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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.07
    Originally posted by Karlos the Jackal
    I'd like Joe and Styles to pick the MCMG as their partners but it'll probably be Lethal and Creed.


Would it be too much to ask for them to be Christopher Daniels & Low-Ki?
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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.22
    Originally posted by Mayhem
      Originally posted by Karlos the Jackal
      I'd like Joe and Styles to pick the MCMG as their partners but it'll probably be Lethal and Creed.


    Would it be too much to ask for them to be Christopher Daniels & Low-Ki?


Yep. It would be too much. That would require thought, and that's something TNA tends to be short on at these crucial junctures. And for reasons utterly beyond me, they seem to be really getting behind Creed. I know what Shem is getting at, I have the same problem with Creed. And I'm not the only one.



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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.49
    Originally posted by used2bcool

    Match 5: MEM (Nash and Angle) over Abyss and Matt Morgan in about 11 minutes when Nash pinned Abyss with a big boot after James Storm hit him with a beer bottle. This was slow, plodding, and generally bad. Of course, all of those adjectives apply to Kevin Nash and that's probably why.

    (edited by used2bcool on 21.11.08 1118)


This is exactly why I've been against Abyss and Morgan being no Team TNA. I don't think they need size to combat Nash and Steiner because those matches would suck. At least with smaller wrestlers Nash and Steiner can toss them around before the smaller wrestler makes a big comeback. Really the two largest guys that I think would be suitable for Team TNA are Joe and Hernandez.

I'm still holding out hope that Joe and AJ will choose Daniels as one of their partners. He's been off screen for a long time now so hopefully it's to bring him back in some big way. Low Ki would be a good choice too but I'm not sure he wants to come back to TNA.





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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00
Wouldn't you need a heck of an explanation to justify bringing back the ultimate loser of last year's Feast or Famine match when you're hyping up another one for this year?



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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.38
    Originally posted by Karlos the Jackal
    Yeah, not a great show.
Which show ever is?
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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.00
    Originally posted by Broncolanche
      Originally posted by Karlos the Jackal
      Yeah, not a great show.
    Which show ever is?
Yes, yes, "zing" and all that. The last couple of shows before this were pretty good, though.

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