Quick rundown for TNA Impact 11/06/2008 from the Impact Zone:
- Main Event Mafia introduces Scott Steiner as their hitman. The good guys claim to have recruited Cage. Cage/Booker rail on each other.
- Random AJ Styles/ Mick Foley interview.
- Beer Money and Booker T over Christian Cage and the MCMG via shenanigans.
- Uncle Kurt threatens JJ's kids again.
- Matt Morgan and Abyss over LAX, Tanahashi and Volador, and Team 3D in a ladder match to gain a Tag Title Shot.
- Foley speaks. AJ/Sting rail on each other.
- Awesome Kong and Raisha Saeed over Taylor Wilde and Rhaka Khan via Implant Buster.
- Sheik Abdul Bashir rails on...Mike Tenay.
- The Main Event Mafia (Nash/Sting/Angle) over Eric Young/Jay Lethal/Consequences Creed via Angle Slam.
- Rhino rails on Lauren...and Bashir.
- Scott Steiner over Samoa Joe via shenanigans AND brass knuckles.
IMO, it was a nice build for the PPV. The promos were nice, the in-ring action left me a bit disappointed. But a nice builder show.
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Compared to the Main Event Mafia, the TNA Originals look like the Island of Misfit Toys. It's nice that Eric Young (seems to have) dropped the comedy schtick, but he's still, you know, Eric Young. Nevertheless, if he can do it, why can't Jay Lethal?
I think the TNA Originals need to focus on five guys who compare well to the MEM. If you have more than five, it starts to look like an unfair number advantage; then, when the MEM comes out on top, it makes the TNA Originals look weak and ineffective. (It's like watching a buch of children play-wrestling with their dads.) Joe and Styles are obvious. MMG are right there, of course, but if you wanted some size, you could swap them out for Morgan and Abyss (MMG are busy with Beer Money right now anyway) or maybe LAX. Last slot seems like it would have to go to Jay Lethal, hopefully de-machofied -- he's earned his place, but his gimmick tends to override that. (The TNA Originals also need a better name than "TNA Originals.")
Also, since the Prince Justice Brotherhood looks like it might be defunct, I wouldn't be surprised to see Curry Man get released, opening up room on the roster for Christopher Daniels come back. In fact, I'm going to predict that he shows up at Turning Point and saves Styles from a MEM beatdown after the Styles/Sting match. Man, wouldn't that be awesome? And then we could have a Styles/Daniels tag team reunion! And a Styles/Daniels/Joe team in six-man tags!!!
It should be noted that Rhaka Khan (subbing for an "injured" Roxxi) turned on Taylor Wilde, chokeslamming her and feeding her into Kong's Implant Buster. The villains all stood tall together at the end of the match -- I assume they will form a tag team called "KHANG."
Rhino was a total dick during his promo. He threatened to gore Lauren!
Rest of the show...I agree that the in-ring stuff mostly was so-so -- although not bad -- and I skimmed over the rest, to be honest.
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Originally posted by Karlos the JackalRhino was a total dick during his promo. He threatened to gore Lauren!
That was a head-scratcher for me. Calling the interviewer "toots" and threatening to gore her is not face behavior. However, intentionally trying to make Bashir into a face seems a bit too... shall we say, "progressive"... for TNA, so I'll just chalk it up to bad writing.
Originally posted by Karlos the Jackal I think the TNA Originals need to focus on five guys who compare well to the MEM.
I thought there were too many of them when I first saw last week's show too. Personally I would go with Joe/Styles/Daniels/MCMG. I know there is a lack of size there but MCMG is much better than LAX and Abyss/Morgan just because Sabin smokes the rest of them as far as being a TNA Original. They should play up the fact that he's a 4 time X Division Champion (back when it meant something), won the deciding match in 2 World X Cups, and he's been in 8 of the 15 Ultimate X matches. How long is Kaz going to be out? I'd maybe add him to counter Christian even though I think Christian is going to be a member of the Mafia begrudgingly.
I'm okay with the TNA Originals name simply because it puts more focus on TNA vs. non-TNA as opposed to young vs. old like originally thought.
How could Christian 'begrudgingly' join the faction? That stipulation for his match with Booker makes no sense. If Booker wins, the MEM will let someone into their group who dislikes them and will probably try to sabotage them at every opportunity?
Originally posted by AlexMain Event Mafia sounds like something out of an e-fed.
That may be true, but it has been 3 weeks, we will have to learn to live with it.
I am all for adding Morgan and Abyss to the TNA side, if anything just to add some size. Maybe that's why they have more than five on their side, because outside of Joe, the rest of the TNA guys look tiny.
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Originally posted by sentonBOMBHowever, intentionally trying to make Bashir into a face seems a bit too... shall we say, "progressive"
You have to admit, it would be a SHOCKING SWERVE~
Originally posted by QuezzyHow long is Kaz going to be out?
Until early-next-year-ish, reportedly, but these Suicide vignettes make me wonder if that's overstated. (Or if someone else is lined up to play the Suicide character -- Low Ki, for example, who provided Suicide's voice in the video game. [My vote goes to Tyson Dux, a perfectly serviceable worker whose face annoys me.])
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The promos are better these days, so the MEM plot has brought that to TNA. I enjoy the intensity that's at least suggested. Even Sting had some nice moments against Styles. Whether this leads to decent matches has yet to be seen, and I don't ecpect much this weekend except dirty finishes.
Rakha Kahn is HOT. She's put on weight since her introduction with Scott Steiner. And so has Bashir, frankly. He's so much thicker now that my mind immediately says that's not natural. I'm glad he got the promo time with Tenay, and I'm glad to watch him talk without the stereotypical accent. He's a good performer, and any significant screen time for him is good.
I don't see Christian/Booker or Kurt/Jeff ending without a swerve. Jeff is a natural heel. So is Christian. I don't think they can play tweener for a long stretch. Since all the face heavy-hitters are established as hanging with Joe now, the only hook for this main story is to see who joins the MEM. You have to think Team 3D are joining; there is no stronger tag team in the business with such a legacy. Unfortunately, this then is just the new NWO, and we would all be shocked if Sting isn't the first to leave the group, either because he's drubbed out (a la the Horsemen) or he is again directed by his faith to do the right thing.
I'd be happy to be wrong about all this, TNA. Surprise me. Be good.
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Oh my god, when did Sting learn to cut a promo? Don't get me wrong, he was never terrible on the mic but I can't remember him ever cutting anything more than a decent promo throughout his whole career. His promo with Styles this week was tremendous! If that's what finally committing to being a heel does for him (albeit in the short term I suspect) then we've all been missing out for the past 20 years. He sounded confident and, more importantly, that he believed every word he was saying which had always been his biggest failing for me. Keep it up!
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Lets see in WCW he came in as a heel in 1995 turned face in the Summer of '96 to face Hogan for the title joined the NWO a month later and then was thrown out of the NWO after Starcade and turned face again.