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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.66
Not going to bother to recap the show since better people here do that then me plus I missed part of the beginning due to Bones. I read the spoilers and caught the rest on TNA doing recaps. So, we got a lot of storyline tonight. A lot of storyline. The show had 16 minutes of wrestling which consisted of Pope getting beat down by Fortune, Joe getting a DQ win over Abyss after a ring bell shot and Jeff interfering in the Anderson/RVD match. As well as Tara/Madison re-creating the finger poke of doom. The reasoning behind "They" makes some sense ie Hogan and Bischoff want total control and Dixie was meddling too much in their plans. Now, Fortune joining them is a bit of a stretch. Hogan and Flair being on the same side is just weird. It just defies all the laws of the wrestling cosmos. Yet, They which is now called "Immortal" needs more then just three wrestlers. I don't like it unless its just a fake out on Flair's part. Either way, I didn't care for that.

One of the interesting things about the show, Miss Tesmacher was the leak for Sting and Nash. It was nice that actually explained how Sting and Nash knew about it. It also sounds like she is going to the KO division. Speaking of the KO division, Jwoww really went to town on Cookie. It looked like some legit shots to her banging Cookies head on the side of the mat. Either Cookie is a great seller or Jwoww didn't know to ease up or care to ease up.

The one thing that did piss me off was how little or time given to Team 3D's announcement/challenge to the Guns. That is a pretty big deal and probably the easiest storyline to do in the next couple of weeks. Even a small promo from the Guns accepting the challenge would have been nice. As for the rest of the show. It was ok. Jeff becoming some weird Anti-Christ character has potential. The video promo was just unsettling or cheaply done depending on your point of view. I do think it got the message across that Jeff has always been a guy who is a little off and he has finally now he swan divided head first into an empty swimming pool.

As for where do they go from here? I have no idea. The show can easily become a mess and someone would argue it already is or has been a mess for awhile. At the start of any heel take over storyline, the heroes have to divided or beaten-up early then come together. I just hope they have an endgame plan with this and don't turn it into MEM where it had some great moments as well as matches before it went off the rails with Joe's turn then magically disappeared before the payoff of AJ winning the title. There has to be some idea of what the payoff is and how to get there. If not, then its going to be six month to a year when Eric and Hogan's contracts are up of Immortal doing their best NWO impression with the forever long promos as well as squash matches.
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I watch TNA - and I believe the only way to watch TNA is - the same way I watch NXT: for the trainwreck. Except here's the big difference: NXT is way funnier. NXT is way better written. And NXT has Michael Cole. Cole is already on three WWE shows as the Voice of WWE, but he needs to make it four, and become the Voice of TNA that says how stupid everything is on air. That's what missing from total non-stop enjoyment of this terrible, terrible program.

Yes, stop saying They, everyone. ReAction made clear by repeating the word over and over and over that They - Hogan's new regime that includes Fortune - is called IMMORTAL. Or maybe it's not all in caps locks. Immortal. Some chyron would help. (Spelling Update: According to Mickie James' iMPACT! Tron it's spelled "Mickie" but that still can't be taken as confirmation. However, according to their new logo and chyron, it is officially spelled Fortune. Not Fourtune, which is stupid for at least two reasons.)

Eric Bischoff was awesome in the segments with Dixie Carter. He was full-on Gene Hackman as Lex Luthor in Superman II. The smugness, the cigar... Hogan could well have been General Zod in the scene. All that was missing was for Bischoff to ask Hogan if he could have Australia.

The best moment of the entire show was when Dixie called Eric a "little smug shit!",** which was not only not censored, but repeated again on ReAction. I popped for "little smug shit". So you can say "shit" on TNA! And Anderson called Eric a "douchebag" later on. You know, it beats "poopy".

I barely pay attention to the details of this show but Pope and Nash have been banging Miss Tessmacher for weeks according to their subtle allusions on the matter, so no shock she's the leak. The questions are does Eric Bischoff watch his own show, how often, and if so, how long did he know Tessmacher has been telling Nash and Pope what They are up to. And if it's been more than three weeks Eric has known, why put her "in charge" of the Knockouts Division only to yank her from the job suddenly? Oh, who cares.

With all this ridiculous shit going on with Immortal and Dixie getting thrown out and Angle nearly being paralyzed, what a weird fucking night for JWOWW to show up by herself, pulling into the arena parking garage and strolling into the building met by nobody and accompanied by nobody, with no pass or credentials or anything. The entire JWOWW/Shore segment should have ended with JWOWW walking back to her car with her $15,000 contained in a bag with a dollar sign on it.

You know what was sad? Really depressing? On ReAction, Samoa Joe cut a long ass promo with the camera lens pressed up to his bleeding head ranting on and on and on about Jeff Jarrett, while every cut away to Jarrett had Jarrett babbling incoherently about Kurt Angle making his life a living hell. Jarrett only mentioned Angle, not Joe. That's good editing/storytelling/rivalry building/thinking, geniuses.

Where is Cole and where is Cole's Gong?

** @TNADixie Dixie Carter
A special thanks to Spike TV for allowing my calling Bischoff a "smug shit" to air. Can't tell you how good that slap felt.

(edited by John Orquiola on 15.10.10 0915)

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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.11
From gerweck.net:

WWE Champion Randy Orton posted the following comments while watching TNA for what he claimed was only the second time ever last night.

“I enjoyed the backstage stuff for the most part anyway. Something about the realness of the conversations between some of the talent was really well done.”

“Samoa Joe can move”

“I Miss working with Kurt and Jeff”

“Coulda done w/o the JWoW segment tho,”



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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.81
So how many "you never saw it coming!" segments where the new heel group shows clips of all the things they did over the past few months that don't actually make sense but was all part of an elaborate master plan where guys on the same side fought each other to fool you because you never saw coming is Russo up to now since Deadly Game '98?
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If the "they" angle ends with anything except Samoa Joe, RVD and Tessmacher (as Fred, Shaggy, and Velma) unmasking Eric Bischoff, who proclaims that he would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for you pesky kids, I'll be upset.

16 minutes of wrestling on a two hour wrestling show called "Total Nonstop Action: Impact" is just plain stupid, though (as are fingerpoke's of doom and titles changing hands via lockboxes). They can't seriously ask us to sit through about 90 minutes of talking and then expect us to sit down and watch Reaction, which is another hour of talking.

I really only cared about Mickie James promo - the rest was just 'eh'. I don't watch or care about the Jersey Shore, so that whole segment I could do without (how about instead of spending $15,000 for her you put Sarita, Wilde, or Hamada on television and let them wrestle).

I see that Jeff Hardy is morphing into Raven 2.0.

(edited by wannaberockstar on 15.10.10 1305)
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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.72
    Originally posted by JustinShapiro
    So how many "you never saw it coming!" segments where the new heel group shows clips of all the things they did over the past few months that don't actually make sense but was all part of an elaborate master plan where guys on the same side fought each other to fool you because you never saw coming is Russo up to now since Deadly Game '98?
I remember actually enjoying the post-swerve clip show when Bret Hart joined the NWO. It certainly had some "well why did they bother" moments, but there didn't seem to be any full-on "that made no logical sense, why did those two friends hit each other" bits.



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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.62
Most wrestling plots fall apart if you dig too deep, it’s usually safer if you don’t expect much going in. I may not think it makes total sense how they got here, but I did enjoy what I saw for the most part last night. Yes, there wasn’t much in ring action, but they were coming off a PPV (a situation where WWE usually gets a pass for light ring action the next night), plus, quite frankly, they had a lot of ‘splainin’ to do!

The new Hardy heel character seems interesting so far, almost with a tinge of Heath Ledger Joker.





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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.81
    Originally posted by kentish
    Most wrestling plots fall apart if you dig too deep, it’s usually safer if you don’t expect much going in.


It's nice when they don't directly contradict themselves, though. But I guess it could've been worse. RVD could've been in Jeff's spot. "Fake blood! You never saw it coming!"
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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.98
With Flair, Hogan, and Bischoff as the new evil stable du jour, this is just another version of the Australia Hulkamania tour draping itself upon the TNA scaffolding.

When they first came to TNA, it was happy Hogan and Eric versus Flair, who managed and redefined new world champ AJ Styles. Now, Immortal features world champ Jeff Hardy, but the title is overshadowed by the older, mostly inactive personalities. This doesn't inspire my interest, and it's unfortunately the dominant angle for TNA.

I don't mind a good heel stable. I don't mind the turn of a prominent face (although I do wonder if they think they scooped WWE's plans with Cena). But it cements Eric and Hogan as one-trick ponies. I wonder if wrestling fans ten years younger than me perceive Hogan as anything other than an old guy who forms heel stables.



(edited by Matt Tracker on 15.10.10 1329)


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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.95
I considered writing my thoughts on this then I remembered that TNA is like my old 8-Bit Nintendo that would just reset itself for no reason.

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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.78
    Originally posted by BigDaddyLoco
    I considered writing my thoughts on this then I remembered that TNA is like my old 8-Bit Nintendo that would just reset itself for no reason.


If that isn't the best way to sum up TNA in a nutshell, I don't know what is.

At this point, the biggest shock for me on this show is that Mickie James was allowed to keep the rights to her name. I thought for sure we'd have a "Team 3D" situation on our hands, or does WWE think that little of her that they didn't think the Mickie James name was worth getting the rights for?

Nothing else shocks me from these people anymore. I desperately want the product to get better, though. The wrestling's been at such a high-quality lately that it deserves better than to get drowned out by these nonsensical storylines and turns.




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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.72
    Originally posted by It's False
    At this point, the biggest shock for me on this show is that Mickie James was allowed to keep the rights to her name. I thought for sure we'd have a "Team 3D" situation on our hands, or does WWE think that little of her that they didn't think the Mickie James name was worth getting the rights for?
It's her actual name. Now why they changed her name to something they couldn't trademark, I do not know.



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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.33

Ummmm...OK, this is why I DVR TNA and watch 80% in ffwwd. This show was NOT SCOTTISH!!! This TV time would be much better put to use by an ROH-DragonGate-Chikara-ProWrestlingGuerilla-Shimmer recap show or the new NWA Show than the mess TNA is. It's a sad,sad day when someone takes a failed business model and repeats it action for action. Can I have some money thrown at me since someone obviously doesn't need theirs???? Time to take TNA out behind the barn and shoot it.



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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.66
Either Jersey Shore must be a giant phenomenon or everyone underestimated turning Jeff heel. I think that beats Smackdown's rating from last week.

PWTorch.com is reporting that last night's TNA Impact broadcast, which was the Bound For Glory follow-up show, was watched by 1.90 million viewers. This would make last night's show the most watched episode of Impact since January 21st, when the show was watched by 1.93 million viewers.
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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.09
    Originally posted by lotjx
    I think that beats Smackdown's rating from last week.


Last week's Smackdown had a 1.8 rating, this week's Impact only had a 1.4.

Oh, and Thursday's episode of The Jersey Shore had a 2.8 rating.

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