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Lance Hoyt vs. Chase Stevens
-Hoyt won. Post-match angle involving AJ Pierzinski and Dale Torborg getting into it with Hoyt. AJ laid out Hoyt with a chairshot to the back. Meanwhile, Shane Douglas confronted Stevens in the ring over Stevens still wearing Douglas's black and yellow colors. Pull-apart brawl, with Douglas looking scared. A bit of a mess.

Rhino vs. AJ Styles
-Rhino won. That's about it. Then Rhino's attempt to "finish" AJ backfired and Rhino went through a table near the stage. Boring, typical brawl for my liking.

Christopher Daniels vs. Chris Sabin vs. Jerry Lynn
-Sabin won the X-Division Title again. The end. Boring match for my liking.

Petey Williams vs. James Storm
-Storm cheats to win. Gail Kim tells the ref he cheated. Storm proceeds to beat down Petey and handcuff him to the post. Gail attacks Storm and threatens to hit him with the beer bottle, but Jacqueline debuts and lays out Gail, then hugs Storm. Not THAT bad, but not good either.

Alex Shelley vs. Austin Starr
-Of course, this goes the 10-minute limit. Two judges split. Backlund (a judge) calls it a draw. Nash gives the match 5 more minutes, and Shelley wins quickly. Starr is pissed off and gets into a brawl with Senshi, then picks a fight with Backlund, who locks on the crossface chicken wing. Match of the night.

Team 3D vs. LAX
-LAX won via DQ, when Runt came to the ring drunk and interfered. Brother Ray got pissed at Runt and threw him out. So I guess Russo is zoning in on another "real life" angle from this past summer, when Runt performed at an indy event while drunk. Ennnnh. Nothing spectacular.

Kurt Angle vs. Samoa Joe
-Angle won 3-2, tapping out to a leglock a split second after the time ran out. So Joe nearly tied it. But Angle wins (as should have been expected based on house show booking on recent shows) and gets the title shot against Christian next month. This match was very boring and dare I say it - OVERPLAYED and PREDICTABLE. It didn't seem like either guy was that interested in the match.

Abyss vs. Sting vs. Christian Cage
-Christian won the NWA Title. Abyss was eliminated. Sting was close to winning several times. Abyss comes back to the ring, attacks Tomko. Then it appeared as if Abyss would turn on Mitchell... but he didn't. It looked as if he would hit Christian with the chains wrapped around his fist... but he didn't. He hit Sting instead. One froglash later, and Christian is the new champ. Abyss is still with Mitchell. Entertaining match to some extent.

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Overall, I'd give it a grade of 3/10. Just a boring show overall.

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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.00
that's a much better thread than my drunken confusion that CRZ banished, so:

- Can't say that Angle v. Christian lights me on fire, but the wrestling business is what it is and mindset says that Angle and Cage and their WWE-ness are 10X times the stars that say Joe or Abyss or even Sting at this point are. Much like WWE booking, it does no good to complain about TNA booking because it won't change a thing. I'd like some theories how this ever leads to Joe being NWA champion. As I've said before, Joe is to TNA as RVD was to original ECW. They waited so long to pull the trigger, I doubt it will ever happen.

- Cage winning is fine, but won't rock the world. We are all fooled thinking Cage meant anything as a draw, but the matches will be fine. Will there be a blowoff to the "secret" angle?

- The Shelley/Starr stuff just sounds like the greatest thing ever.

- The TNA women's division sounds like the polar opposite of the greatest thing ever.

- TNA screwed the pooch on LAX and without Konnan to rant and rave I doubt the group is long for the world. Goddamn, I love Homicide, but the "experts" have to see his size and just view him as midcard fodder.

(edited by flairforthegold13 on 14.1.07 2150)
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Opps...I really meant to type something here.

I watched and I actually liked Angle/Joe three but I still didn't exactly feel comfortable with Angle winning. Will Angle pick up the belt next month?

James Storm cheating thing was ok. So he can do it on his own.

I actually liked the turn, not turn, turn, not turn, and so on with Abyss.

Shelly/Star was probably the most entertaining thing on the card. I love the commentary as Nash was rewriting history.

The matches just seemed to lack a bit tonight.

Oh, Womens Division was my idea...but the board I posted the comment on is now lost to the internet. Crap...can't prove that now.

OVERALL: I think it was ok. Not as good as I've seen before but not an, once again, E piece of crap PPV.

(edited by jwrestle on 15.1.07 0120)


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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.00
I thought the show started off strong, turned to total shit in the middle and never really recovered.

I enjoyed the first two matches -- this is the second PPV in a row that Styles has "cheated" the fans out of a good ending, and I for one am highly amused.

Shelley vs. Starr was pretty good, too, although it never really "caught fire." I don't understand why TNA thinks it needs to have its own oily naked fat man. Do they think they're being ironic, or what? Also, was that Vince Russo dressed as Somalian Joe? Anyway, this match ended with a loooong scoring segment, then they had a sudden death segment, and then they had ANOTHER angle thing where Starr turned on Nash.

Williams vs. Storm was fair, but was again followed up by MORE STORIES, including a run-in by MISS JAQUELINE of all people; this again baffles me. Why her, of everyone possible? (I kind of assume that they tried to get Lita for this spot.)

And THEN we get a LOOOOONNNNGGGG PROMO by VKM, which leads into an EVEN LONGER promo by Christy Hemme, where she TEARFULLY expounds on her RIGHT to WRESTLE. This was horrible and went on for a YEAR and a HALF I swear to GOD.

(Plus side -- when she name dropped Joanie Laurer, I was REALLY SCARED for a few moments, but my fears were unfounded.)

LAX vs 3D was ehh but bearable until we had to get more story into it -- Runt came out, drunk and wearing a Santa Claus outfit backwards, and caused the DQ. (I guess they wanted to keep the belts on LAX, but for SOME reason didn't want them to get even a dirty win over 3D.) Is it my imagination, or does Russo really like substance abuse angles? Also, did Homicide get any offense in at all?

By now I was thoroughly disappointed, so the fact that the Joe vs. Angle match was pretty good (not as good as last month's) didn't do much for me.

Main event was fair-to-middling.
    Originally posted by flairforthegold13
    I'd like some theories how this ever leads to Joe being NWA champion.
Alright. I predict Kurt wins the title next month. He beats Sting (or whoever) the month after. Samoa Joe has big wins at both PPVs and now wants a match for the title -- Kurt says, "oh, I already beat you!" Samoa Joe says, "you've never beaten me...in a Steel Cage!!!" and he wins the belt at Lockdown.

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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.45
    Originally posted by Karlos the Jackal
    Also, did Homicide get any offense in at all?

None that Ray would sell. Did anyone else notice the exchange with Homicide where Ray went super stiff on him, and the subsequent elbow to the forehead on the apron by Hernandez a few minutes later that cut Ray open hardway? You go, Hernandez.

I have to agree with Karlos's overall assessment of the pay-per-view. Styles/Rhino was probably the match of the night, and I loved the chickensh*t heel ending with AJ saying "screw it" and refusing to get back up for the ten-count. Lynn/Daniels/Sabin was alright for what it was, and Lynn looked okay. Shelley/Starr could've been better but was marred by a gimmick match, and the comedy will most likely ultimately get in the way of any long-term plot or character development (was I the only one expecting Austin Starr to reonounce his own name and refer to himself as Austin Aries?). Williams/Storm wasn't bad, but was just sort of there, too. In the unintentional shoot comment of the evening, Don West closed the "VKM declares victory/Christy Hemme declares tears/Kip James declares moral bankruptcy" by saying "well THAT was strange." Couldn't agree more. LAX/3D had such a cheap ending, which was wholly unnecessary. Joe/Angle didn't do much for me, but they did alright considering Joe's knee problems and the fact that Angle probably shouldn't be wrestling. Sting/Christian/Abyss was way overbooked, but leaps and bounds above last month's poor effort.

It had a lot of faults, particularly with the angle developments and run-ins after seemingly every match. That being said, I'll still say that on the whole I found it more entertaining than any WWE PPV I've seen in the last five months or so. They just have to calm the Hell down with the booking.

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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.73
I am glad they went with Christian again, just as I was glad they put the belt on Abyss. Both of those guys are deserving, and I was afraid they would get lost in the shuffle once Angle was signed.

I do agree that a Christian/Angle match is the best draw to get new viewers. Maybe they can play off of the old EAC days? If Angle does win against Christian, I hope we get to see him wrestle AJ soon, as that is the only thing TNA has left, as far as a "dream match" is concerned. At least from a pure technical standpoint.




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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.00
I don't like CHristian/Angle as a main event because it was done several times in WWE as a midcard match. I don't think Christian's moved far enough away from his WWE persona for that match to work as a drawing card for a rival promotion. And besides, headlining a TNA PPV with the two most high-profile WWE names they have doesn't seem like a great way to differentiate the product from their rivals.



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Not seen the PPV but it's a shame the Abyss title run didn't last a bit longer. Granted: he's not the best champion in the company but I think that the belt needs to stay on one wrestler for longer to really mean something. I really would have preferred seeing Angle/Abyss II for the title at the next PPV.

Good to see Chris Sabin as the champion. I'm being an optimist and hoping that Styles and Daniels tag up once more- I'd love to see them fued with Shelley & Ari- ahem, Starr.
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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.21

I wish they'd have put the title back onto Sting, thus at least giving us a "dream match" of Angle vs. Sting at the February PPV ...

So, where does Joe go from here?
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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.73
Although I am sure it has happened on an episode of Raw, or SD, I don't recall ever seeing Angle vs. Christian. So that makes it a fresh match up in my opinion.

And true, they are former WWE guys, but they are hardly washed up, like say when TNA gave us PPV main events such as Jarret/Nash, or Jarrett/DDP.

If he doesn't take some time off to heal up, I see Joe having a short program with someone like Abyss, and then goes after the title. I am quite sure it will be held by Kurt by then, barring injury. I just hope Christian doesn't drop it in the first match with Angle. Correct me if I am wrong, but has Christian been pinned since his TNA debut?




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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.00
The problem with having Joe go after Angle again is that Kurt has been handling the dude with ease. Busted him up the first night, made him tap, pinned him in a tag match, lost in a singles, but then won the blowoff. Winning an Iron Man is pretty decisive.

This is Hunter/Jericho type stuff here.

They had a lot of great matches, but at the end of the day, who went over?

I think we have to take it that TNA doesn't see Joe as a franchise type guy, the type of guy you can build a company around and to think that somehow TNA has this master plan to lead Joe to winning the title is us deluding ourselves. Ask Monty Brown, he was hot a few years back and they screwed him up because he wasn't a "name."

And, beating a dead horse, running Angle and Cage is fine but isn't Angle a heel? He did y'know SNAP AN INNOCENT WOMAN'S ANKLE and step on a chick's hair in like back to back weeks.
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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.00
    Originally posted by kentish
    I hope we get to see [Angle] wrestle AJ soon, as that is the only thing TNA has left, as far as a "dream match" is concerned.
Apparently you should tune in to Impact this Thursday.

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(edited by Karlos the Jackal on 15.1.07 1805)


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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.34
I dont think we will see angle winning the belt anytime soon

Angle and Joe are too much entwined right now to let that happen.

Next PPV joe screws Angle, and christian retains, leading into a 6 month fued, and a title reign by Captain C
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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.73
    Originally posted by Karlos the Jackal
      Originally posted by kentish
      I hope we get to see [Angle] wrestle AJ soon, as that is the only thing TNA has left, as far as a "dream match" is concerned.
    Apparently you should tune in to Impact this Thursday.

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    (edited by Karlos the Jackal on 15.1.07 1805)


It will be interesting to see if that match does take place, with Angle's reported concussion. It would probably only be a 3-4 minute tease anyway.




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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.57
    Originally posted by kentish
    Although I am sure it has happened on an episode of Raw, or SD, I don't recall ever seeing Angle vs. Christian. So that makes it a fresh match up in my opinion.


Yeah, they might have wrestled on a random Raw or Smackdown but they never had a full program together. The only time they ever wrestled against each other on a ppv was the year that Team RECK were the four semi-finalists in the King of the Ring and Angle and Christian weren't really feuding, they just happened to be wrestling each other in the semi-final round.

    Originally posted by flairforthegold13
    Ask Monty Brown, he was hot a few years back and they screwed him up because he wasn't a "name."


Ugh. How many times are people going to incorretly bring this up. For about the billionth time TNA didn't ruin Monty. Monty sabotaged himself by refusing to work other shows to work on his skills, which absolutely did need work. Why the hell would TNA push a guy who has no desire to work hard?




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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.00
I'd better hear that excuse next time someone whines about RVD getting shortchanged by WWE.



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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.00
    Originally posted by Quezzy
      Originally posted by kentish
      Although I am sure it has happened on an episode of Raw, or SD, I don't recall ever seeing Angle vs. Christian. So that makes it a fresh match up in my opinion.


    Yeah, they might have wrestled on a random Raw or Smackdown but they never had a full program together. The only time they ever wrestled against each other on a ppv was the year that Team RECK were the four semi-finalists in the King of the Ring and Angle and Christian weren't really feuding, they just happened to be wrestling each other in the semi-final round.

      Originally posted by flairforthegold13
      Ask Monty Brown, he was hot a few years back and they screwed him up because he wasn't a "name."


    Ugh. How many times are people going to incorretly bring this up. For about the billionth time TNA didn't ruin Monty. Monty sabotaged himself by refusing to work other shows to work on his skills, which absolutely did need work. Why the hell would TNA push a guy who has no desire to work hard?



Wasn't Kevin Nash headlining PPVs for TNA against Jarrett? You can make reasons not to push ANYBODY. Hell, WWE signed Monty Brown and they're Nazis about working dates.
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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.57
    Originally posted by flairforthegold13
      Originally posted by Quezzy
        Originally posted by kentish
        Although I am sure it has happened on an episode of Raw, or SD, I don't recall ever seeing Angle vs. Christian. So that makes it a fresh match up in my opinion.


      Yeah, they might have wrestled on a random Raw or Smackdown but they never had a full program together. The only time they ever wrestled against each other on a ppv was the year that Team RECK were the four semi-finalists in the King of the Ring and Angle and Christian weren't really feuding, they just happened to be wrestling each other in the semi-final round.

        Originally posted by flairforthegold13
        Ask Monty Brown, he was hot a few years back and they screwed him up because he wasn't a "name."


      Ugh. How many times are people going to incorretly bring this up. For about the billionth time TNA didn't ruin Monty. Monty sabotaged himself by refusing to work other shows to work on his skills, which absolutely did need work. Why the hell would TNA push a guy who has no desire to work hard?



    Wasn't Kevin Nash headlining PPVs for TNA against Jarrett? You can make reasons not to push ANYBODY. Hell, WWE signed Monty Brown and they're Nazis about working dates.


So you're comparing a guy who won the top title in both companies to a guy who has done jack squat? Nash was a huge star, as small as TNA is they brought him in to have a star on the card. You can't compare him to Monty Brown who nobody knows. Booking Nash in other shows wouldn't have done anything anyway since he's already past the top of his game. There's no improvement left for Nash to make. Monty on the other hand was a young guy who hasn't yet reached his prime, he should've been working on his skills to get better.

And I don't know what your point about the WWE's schedule is. Obviously if Monty signed a contract with them he's going to work the schedule they give him and I'll have no problem with WWE pushing him then. But he wouldn't work the schedule TNA wanted him to so they shouldn't have pushed him.

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I got my hands on a copy of the show, and it was pretty solid overall, but too much like Turning Point with so many rematches.

The Joe/Angle match was good, but I think 5 falls in 30 minutes makes both guys look weak. Especially when they were coming every 2-3 minutes there near the end. 3 falls at the most is all they needed.




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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.45
There's no improvement left for Nash to make. Monty on the other hand was a young guy who hasn't yet reached his prime, he should've been working on his skills to get better.

I'd also like to add that Nash's match against Jarrett at Against All Odds 2005 was INFINITELY better than Monty Brown's match against Jarrett the month prior.
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