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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.09

I may be breaking some sort of protocol by starting this thread...the fact that one doesnt exist could mean one of two things, that whoever does the recap hasnt watched it yet, or that im the only idiot who paid for it.

Out of curiosity I decided to order a TNA ppv for my very first time.

"This is brutal, very hard to watch" - don west

I couldn't agree more.

What happened to Big Poppa Pump's chest? Did it implode?

Thank god for TIVO, it came in very handy for this mess of a PPV.

The promo's and vignettes were unbearable. The finishes, including the much heralded Ultimate X were just god awful.

Samoa Joe was impressive as was the "international X division match", but not enough to warrant $29.95 ...Jeff Jarrett is...im sure I dont even need to waste your time with what I think about Jeff Jarrett. Just embarrassing.

And that belt that Christian so proudly wears, also just embarrassing. I guess Christian and Edge from "up north" ARE really brothers again?

Sorry if I stepped on anyone's toes by posting this, but rest assured, it will never happen again. I'd rather spend the $29 on a dub sack and medium 2 topping pizza.


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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.87
I definitely hear what you're sayin', Stu.

Christian/Monty did NOT have a main event feel at all. It seemed like the match went on forever and had no peak - it was just a constant plateau from beginning to end.

The good points:

-The 8-man brawl was very well-executed. The prematch brawl all over the arena was exciting to watch and very frantic. Jarrett getting the win here is irrelevant in the big picture, but I'm sure some will whine about Jarrett hogging the spotlight anyway. The way this match went, all participants benefitted from the way it was booked, and Jarrett was the rightful winner for his team. However, I would have liked a more exciting finish.

-Daniels winning the X-Title again. I thought the outcome was obvious as there were few places left for Joe to go as X-Champ. Joe's prematch promo was a pleasure to watch, and when he talked about Goldberg, it became a little more clear he would drop the strap. All came out a winner, as happens in any match that is good. Although the ending came out of nowhere... maybe that's just me.

-International X match. Explosive and high-paced from beginning to end. New Japan was represented by Puma, who impressed me a lot more than Liger did in his appearance last summer. Puma's "spider man" moves were more fun than the tired moves I'm used to seeing from Rey Mysterio. Great last 5 minutes and a very effective finish - best finish of the whole night and easily the match of the night.

-I actually liked Steiner's appearance, but it went on too long and that made it lean toward confusing. Sting's run-in was really fun for me, someone who has never liked Sting. Let's hope they don't go too heavy with the WCW guys. Either way, it doesn't bode well for Christian to be in the same ring as guys like Sting or Steiner. At least Ric Flair was pretty muscular in his prime. Christian needs to discover there's more than just cardio machines at most gyms...


Bad points:

-LAX/James Gang match was really sloppy. There was negative chemistry and cohesion between the two teams and at times, unfortunately, I think the blame mostly fell with Homicide and Machete who looked slightly lost.

-Some matches went on too long. Overall, the PPV didn't flow as well as last month's.


Overall grade:

Thumbs in the middle for me. 5/10



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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.00
I enjoyed it, mostly. Main wasn't great; Ult. X was slightly disappointing, too, with an ending that felt really abrupt and anticlimactic. (It does anser the question, "Can Joe compete in an Ultimate X match?" The answer is, "Yes, but he's going to spend very very very little time on the ropes.")

(EDIT: I just read on 411 that Joe suffered a minor eye injury that caused a temporary loss of vision, which is why the match ended earlier than it was meant to. Too bad! I hope it is just a minor thing.)

4 Man International X Div. match was my favorite of the night -- super fast action and just fun. Worst match was the James Gang / LAX match -- no surprise, as the match featuring whatever-combination-of-these-guys is almost always the worst match of the night. But this one was particularly crappy.

I also worry about the trend towards re-creating latter-day WCW.

Um...6.5/10 for me.

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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00
Once again... boy, is my finger clearly not on the pulse of the W's. I was in attendance at this show live, and, barring the horrible, horrible ending, this was easily the best of the 4 TNA PPVs I've seen live (which includes Genesis and Turning Point in 2005, and Against All Odds in 2006). It was also a perfect example of the idea that, if you have a great opening and a great ending, fans will forgive and/or forget most of the crap that may come in the middle... and frankly, this PPV didn't have that much crap.

Pre-Show - missed Cassidy Riley vs. Shannon Moore while I was at the concession stand. Then again, I heard a few fans still in their seats blinked and missed this entire match. Good to see Diamonds in the Rough finally get a win... but (and this is coming from someone who really doesn't like Norman Smiley) if they put Shark Boy and Norman Smiley together as a comedy tag team, they might be onto something there.

Honestly, the only matches I didn't really like was Matt Bentley vs. Lance Hoyt and Naturals vs. Team Canada (for the most part). Alex Shelley vs. Jay Lethal was an excellent opening match - and a bit of a surprise to see Shelley get the clean win. The International X match was a little slow and didn't quite have its rhythm to start off, but became much much better - a great example of building up to your highspots. James Gang and Bullet Bob vs. LAX - let's face it, this was not going to be a workrate match, but I still enjoyed it. The feel-good win of the night, and watching Bullet Bob do BG's knee shake was a hoot.

Ultimate X was probably the most surprising, out-of-nowhere finish of the night. Watching Daniels climb to the X, I couldn't help but think, "Gee, someone better move fast, or there'll be no one to stop him from getting the belt." The girlfriend couldn't stop laughing at my expression of total shock when Daniels won. Was it just me, or did the X ropes seem very unsturdy last night - even when just AJ and Daniels were on them?

Main event - Christian Cage hasn't had great matches with Monty Brown, but I think part of it was that he tends to look too much like a little bitch against Monty. TNA needs to realize that Cage has to get some solid offense in to make him look good. This ending was probably the most out of nowhere, after Ultimate X. I will concede, however, that the crowd wasn't really too into this match - if it wasn't for the stupid Jarrett/Steiner thing, I might've put this before Ultimate X.

While I was waiting in line to get into the studio, I could've sworn I saw someone in the backstage area who looked like Scott Steiner. Then, after the ME, my worst fears were confirmed. Ugh. Clearly, Dixie or someone in TNA management did not see the tape of Royal Rumble 2003. I am convinced that this will blow up in TNA's face sooner rather than later... unless TNA plans to have Samoa Joe destroy him, and I don't see that happening. This left a really bitter taste in my mouth, after an otherwise-great PPV.

Other notes of potential interest:
Konnan was doing Spanish language commentary in place of Armando Quintero. I wonder if Quintero was sick, or if this is one of the cuts we've heard rumored.
Wrestlers who came out for autographs and photos and such included Shark Boy and the Diamonds in the Rough. WWE was smart enough to do this at their house show last month in Lakeland with Shelton Benjamin, RVD, and even Cena posed for photos and autographs after his match. To me, this is always a good thing.
For some reason (possibly due to some photos they were taking of the mutants in the Impact Zone before the show), they loaded the not-on-TV side first, and then loaded the on-TV side after that. My first time sitting on the on-TV side section. If they started alternating that with tapings, they might do good.
Overheard in the restroom before they loaded the studio was that they're not turning anyone away for TV tapings on Tuesdays, so I guess the line for that is not as long as for PPVs.
Still no Samoa Joe merchandise at concession stands? No shirts, no figures, no nothing? OMG WTF???



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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.85
    Originally posted by RageRockrr
    but (and this is coming from someone who really doesn't like Norman Smiley) if they put Shark Boy and Norman Smiley together as a comedy tag team, they might be onto something there.


I'm a big fan of Screamin' Norman Smiley! I'm not sure if he's been in TNA before but I was happy to see him again two weeks ago. I was upset that he got pinned though. PUSH HIM TNA!


    Originally posted by RageRockrr
    The feel-good win of the night, and watching Bullet Bob do BG's knee shake was a hoot.


It would have been cool if he had of sold the knee injury from the attack.


    Originally posted by RageRockrr
    Main event - Christian Cage hasn't had great matches with Monty Brown, but I think part of it was that he tends to look too much like a little bitch against Monty. TNA needs to realize that Cage has to get some solid offense in to make him look good.


Are you blaming Christian for this match? Are you sure it was Monty stinkin' up the place. I agree Christian needs to be MORE of a sneaky, smart, clever face or just sell less.
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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.87
Norman Smiley's role is to put people over. He won't be any less "over" with the crowd if he continues to get pinned in tag matches. People just want to see him get in his spots and that's all.

Christian is starting to prove that there never was a glass ceiling in WWE - he simply plateaued. Sure, the crowd likes him right now. But without looking like a real heavyweight, he'll drown as the champ. So far, in TNA, he hasn't shown anything that we haven't seen from him before. And being over with the crowd doesn't equate to deserving the World Title. Otherwise, Norman Smiley would have quite a good case for a title shot.

The Unprettier really exposes how fake the move is - which says a lot for wrestling moves. A better sudden-impact move would help him a lot.

It's weird, but I think a Daniels/Christian program for the World Title would work wonders for Christian. But as long as they keep putting big and burly guys in the ring with Christian - and he's not adding any new muscle mass - he's going to look very out of place. His match with Monty felt like a midcard Smackdown match. Until he proves he belongs, he is only proving true Vince McMahon's assessment of him. Right now, Rhyno is more of a legit main eventer than Christian.

Shelley vs Lethal was very good. Can't wait for Shelley to work Daniels!



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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.57
I agree with all the negative comments about the PPV and TNA in general...

Another has been who can't cut it in WWE anymore has been signed by TNA to generate some buyrates...maybe they'll finally break 75,000...who knows or cares...

Compared to No Way Out or any other WWE PPV this one surely did tank...



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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.25
    Originally posted by tsmstu
    Out of curiosity I decided to order a TNA ppv for my very first time.


    Originally posted by tsmstu
    Sorry if I stepped on anyone's toes by posting this, but rest assured, it will never happen again. I'd rather spend the $29 on a dub sack and medium 2 topping pizza.(edited by tsmstu on 12.3.06 2335)



Well I wouldn't give up on TNA just because you didn't like one show, it's possible for them to be off one ppv. I mean really, I usually see all of the TNA ppvs but I didn't order this one because it was pretty evident on paper this one wasn't going to be as good as their other ppvs. Monty in the main event? An 8 man tag (when are those ever good?) Bullet Bob Armstrong in a match? No Aries and Strong? You just made a poor choice of which ppv to buy is all. THeir ppvs are much better when the tag champs are in a regular tag match and possibly the three most exciting guys, Daniels, AJ, and Joe, aren't all confined to one match. It also helps if Aries and Strong have a match.

I do worry about the Scott Steiner signing though. I'm not concerned with Steiner not be good in the ring. I'm more concerned with the time it takes away from other guys who are more talented and have been in the company longer. Dixie even said this herself in an interview saying that they didn't want to bring in too many new people because there were others who have been in the company a long time and shouldn't get pushed aside. I pretty much agree that they shouldn't sign anyone new unless it's someone who is REALLY going to help, like Chris Jericho, not Scott Steiner.



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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.46
    Originally posted by chill
    Christian is starting to prove that there never was a glass ceiling in WWE - he simply plateaued. ... Until he proves he belongs, he is only proving true Vince McMahon's assessment of him.


I don't think that Christian's plateau was at the level of JTTS that they kept him at. I don't think it was as a centerpiece main eventer either, but he deserved to be at the level they kept Chris Jericho at, where he doesn't headline but is always in the mix. Not the guy who loses to everyone from Batista to Booker T.


    But as long as they keep putting big and burly guys in the ring with Christian - and he's not adding any new muscle mass


I'm betting that if Christian could've added any more muscle mass to his body type he would've done so years ago.

    Originally posted by Y2J 420
    I agree with all the negative comments about the PPV and TNA in general...


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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.88
A few random, biased thoughts:

Maybe I'm getting old but the spot fu stuff doesn't do it for me anymore. Is there an unwritten rule that multi-people matches can't end until everyone hits their finisher at least once?

Maybe (2) if it didn't seem like the guy they were trying to push the hardest in this company was Scott D'Amore, I could get more excited about some of these guys actually DOING the wrestling. Seriously, didn't it sound like the biggest pop came for Bob Armstrong?

That might be attributed to this crowd, however - I've said this before so you might want to just skip to the next graph but this collection of mostly in-bred hicks are so in love with themselves and their "smart" chants and it just annoys me to no end. "WE CHANT FOR THE FIRST GUY" "SO WE'LL CHANT FOR THE SECOND GUY" hey not EVERY match is Joe/Hero and besides if you pull that crap EVERY match, aren't you really just demonstrating a failure on the part of TNA to show ANY delineation between the face/heel structure? Or maybe the crowd is so bored with the match they have to make their own fun. Whichever, the viewer watching at home (for instance, me) doesn't think "wow, what's this crowd seeing that I'm not?" but rather "wow, these fans are really fucking stupid." And finally, chanting "THIS IS AWESOME" (1) every match and (2) it's clearly NOT awesome not only dilutes the sentiment, but makes the crowd look like freakin' idiots who (again) are in love with their chants because it makes them feel like they're "part of the show." People didn't chant "THIS IS AWESOME" during Angle/Undertaker - they WATCHED the match, got into the match and reacted with every move and near fall - that is, after the initial part of the match where even THEY fell into the "Let's Go Angle"/"Let's Go Undertaker" trap.

If TNA could EVER run a major show out of the "Impact Zone" I'd really like to hear what a different crowd thinks of this product. I know a lot of the workrate crowd like to argue that heat has no bearing on the worth of a match, but in the real world I find I enjoy a match a whole lot more OR a whole lot less when you take the reactions of the live audience into the overall picture.

Who was directing this thing anyway? 'cause it sure seemed like after the second or third time we had to hear Mike Tenay screaming "GO WIDE" they'd have figured out that they were really missing a lot of the action. Even DON WEST was critical of the shot selection, for crying out loud. Was Craig Leathers asking for too much money, so they replaced him with ... let's see, what'd be a good reference ... Chad Damiani? (ZING)

Good thing they had some music ready for Scott Steiner, ah ah ah.

Time to start the Tony Schiavone pool and just finish pretending this isn't becoming/has already become WCW II. At least the guys who made their life's work telling me how wrong I was about WCW the first time can bring back THOSE arguments. Hey maybe it's time to put Mark Madden on the payroll!

Now, having SAID all that...they still got nearly three hours of my life. Again. So kudos to them.



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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.10
Okay, lets go with the WCW 2 theory. Go ahead and dismiss the crowd, production and presentation. But the only comment you made about the wrestling was it was spot fu. If the in ring product difference between TNA and WCW registers so little to you then I doubt there is much of anything they could ever do to impress you.







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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.80
    Originally posted by Jackson
    Okay, lets go with the WCW 2 theory. Go ahead and dismiss the crowd, production and presentation. But the only comment you made about the wrestling was it was spot fu. If the in ring product difference between TNA and WCW registers so little to you then I doubt there is much of anything they could ever do to impress you.






As enjoyable as it is, the throw-every-spot-at-the-wall TNA style, and 90% of the in-ring guys they're using, couldn't get a crowd even the size of SmackDown to react on a large scale. Its good for the workrate freaks but that's about it. And right now, that in-ring style is pretty much the only thing keeping TNA afloat. Bringing in Scott "Peg Leg" Steiner isn't gonna do anything to change that.



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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05
One thing I've been noticing about the crowd is it almost looks like they're being coached, like in an infomercial.

Did you see those "double C" hand signs for Christian Cage? Why were the only people doing it were the ones near the camera. How could 20 people or so go into a spontaneous hand gesture thingy that I've never seen before, and I have watched 99% of all of TNA shows in the last year, unless the camera man/director/stage hand was coaching them to do it? One thing is that they all looked SO emotionless as they did it. IIRC, Christian just beat Monty.

When they went back to the standard long shot for the match, I could swear I saw them on the left side of the screen just stop in unison as someone exited the screen to the left.

TNA has been better than they have been a few PPVs ago about the constant crowd shots DURING the matches where they have those random choreographed hand symbols and seeming identical crowd signs. It still appears to me that the entire first row opposite camera are all the same people. A gal I call "Fat Hardy Chick" is always just off camera to the right of the screen. She's always dressing up as Jeff with the cut stockings on her arms and face paint on.

I have been loving most of TNA stuff compared to WWE but with the whole "Steve Borden Totally-Not-Hidden-Video" and the return of Big Poppa Pump, I'm worried they're going to try to add more non-wrestling/sports-entertainment into their shows, and because they've been mostly sports-entertainment free is why my friends and I watch them.




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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.00
    Originally posted by Zeruel
    One thing I've been noticing about the crowd is it almost looks like they're being coached, like in an infomercial.

    Did you see those "double C" hand signs for Christian Cage? Why were the only people doing it were the ones near the camera. How could 20 people or so go into a spontaneous hand gesture thingy that I've never seen before, and I have watched 99% of all of TNA shows in the last year, unless the camera man/director/stage hand was coaching them to do it?

I think a lot of these people hang out together at the shows -- there's so many "regulars," I bet they come up with lots of this sort of thing while waiting in line and stuff.

Also, lots of them are regulars at the TNA official forums -- I know, for instance, that the streamer-throwing stuff for Liger was planned out and, as far as I could tell, originated on the forums.

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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.88
    Originally posted by Jackson
    Okay, lets go with the WCW 2 theory. Go ahead and dismiss the crowd, production and presentation. But the only comment you made about the wrestling was it was spot fu. If the in ring product difference between TNA and WCW registers so little to you then I doubt there is much of anything they could ever do to impress you.
Okay, sell it to me. Which matches from Sunday's PPV got you really excited? At this rate, I'd actually prefer a WCW PPV. I mean, I like Christian and I like Monty Brown but that match was b-o-r-i-n-g and if it told a story, I sure didn't pick up on it. Zeruel pegged it - after the match was over, Kim and I made fun of the closeups of the crowd because THEY looked like zombies. All that was missing was the "We are fans of Christian Cage" delivery in the voice of the Borg collective. When I see that, I start to ask myself "were these guys really excited to see Christian win the title last month? Or were they just excited to see Jarrett LOSE the title?" And is THAT how you build a promotion? (Well, we know TNA's answer. ;-) )



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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.33
    Originally posted by Zeruel
    One thing I've been noticing about the crowd is it almost looks like they're being coached, like in an infomercial.


Isn't that the only way the majority of the crowd gets into the ring to celebrate Christian winning the belt?



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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.87
    Originally posted by Zeruel
    One thing I've been noticing about the crowd is it almost looks like they're being coached, like in an infomercial.

    Did you see those "double C" hand signs for Christian Cage? Why were the only people doing it were the ones near the camera. How could 20 people or so go into a spontaneous hand gesture thingy that I've never seen before, and I have watched 99% of all of TNA shows in the last year, unless the camera man/director/stage hand was coaching them to do it? One thing is that they all looked SO emotionless as they did it. IIRC, Christian just beat Monty.

    When they went back to the standard long shot for the match, I could swear I saw them on the left side of the screen just stop in unison as someone exited the screen to the left.

    TNA has been better than they have been a few PPVs ago about the constant crowd shots DURING the matches where they have those random choreographed hand symbols and seeming identical crowd signs. It still appears to me that the entire first row opposite camera are all the same people. A gal I call "Fat Hardy Chick" is always just off camera to the right of the screen. She's always dressing up as Jeff with the cut stockings on her arms and face paint on.



Yep, those "double-C" hand-gestures for Christian have been going on since the first week he arrived. And what you saw to the left of the screen was a floor director for the night, some woman. Usually, Jeremy Borash does that, but he clearly has a bigger role now backstage.

And count me in for also not liking how the same people are always in the front row. It's rush-seating at TNA events though. I think TNA web site fan club members get first dibs or something - I might be wrong with that one. You'll also see the guy dressed as a leprechaun about five rows off the floor on the main hard shot of the ring. He had a funny sign this weekend, something like "Pounce me, I'm Irish." Really, these people have probably all seen the Rise and Fall of ECW DVD, especially the chapter about certain fans who would dress up and be there every week - thus making them "part of the show." Well, I guess the saying changes now from, "If you can't do, teach" to "If you can't do, then dress up weird and sit in the same seat each week, thinking that you are now as important to the show as the wrestlers."



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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.00
    Originally posted by CRZ
    Maybe I'm getting old but the spot fu stuff doesn't do it for me anymore. Is there an unwritten rule that multi-people matches can't end until everyone hits their finisher at least once?
I had assumed that you were referring to the 4-man X Division "international" match, but I just watched it again, and only two guys (Williams and Sabin) got to hit their finishers (once each). So it's not that one -- which match did you mean here?

Also, I agree about the crowd -- I wish that they could rotate the whole audience 180 degrees in the middle of the tapings -- between shows, that is -- so we'd have to see the stupid Irish guy only once every two weeks.

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#19 Posted on
Overall, it definitely wasn't as good as last month's pay-per-view. But it was watchable.

My biggest problem (sorry for being late to the game; I just watched the show off my DVR) was the booking of some of the matches. One that came to mind was the International X Division match. They had a great story going into the match, with the Sabin-Dutt "we were a tag team but now we have to be rivals" thing, and even seemed like they were going to turn Sabin heel; there was a moment where they were setting up for a double team move and then Sabin dropkicked Dutt instead. And then Sabin continued with some fairly heelish actions toward Dutt throughout the match. Unfortunately, nothing ever came of it, and Sabin won the match clean. They could have had Dutt win the match, and have Sabin snap and proceed with the post-match beatdown, giving the two of them something to do for a while. But oh well. I just get frustrated when it looks like the performers in the ring are capable of putting over a story or angle, and the bookers/announcers do not want to.

Also, the James Gang/LAX match needed to end with Bullet pinning Konnan. It's obvious that no one cares about Homicide or Machete, and it's really Konnan's show on that side of the ring. So why have Kip James, the one with the least emotional investment in this match, pin one of the bad guy flunkies? If this was supposed to be the match that ends this feud, then why wasn't it booked that way?
Of course, maybe this isn't the last match, and then I look like an idiot.

One more thing... why does the X Division title look so big and legitimate compared to the World Heavyweight title? Christian's belt looks like a toy, and that's really not appropriate, especially when the little cruiserweight guys have a belt that looks better.
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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.10
    Originally posted by Karlos the Jackal
      Originally posted by CRZ
      Maybe I'm getting old but the spot fu stuff doesn't do it for me anymore. Is there an unwritten rule that multi-people matches can't end until everyone hits their finisher at least once?
    I had assumed that you were referring to the 4-man X Division "international" match, but I just watched it again, and only two guys (Williams and Sabin) got to hit their finishers (once each). So it's not that one -- which match did you mean here?

    Also, I agree about the crowd -- I wish that they could rotate the whole audience 180 degrees in the middle of the tapings -- between shows, that is -- so we'd have to see the stupid Irish guy only once every two weeks.

    --K


Joe got hurt and the match got cut short. Actually, as far as me trying to persuade Zed, why did you have to pick THIS PPV to break your silence? Honestly the match quality was the lowest I think I have seen on a TNA PPV.



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