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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.12
http://pwtorch.com/artman2/publish/TNA_News_1/article_67785.shtml I think this move was long overdue as having twelve PPVs a year has been a big money loser for TNA. Meltzer had reported that their non big PPV drew around 9-10 thousand buys and their big PPVs drew around twenty thousand buys the last few years. I think if they can build to their big four PPVs they can be better off rather than doing monthly PPVs as it gives them more time to build to PPVs and maybe they can get twenty-five to thirty thousand PPV buys per in 2013 and grow from there. They could also do a couple PPVs on the road and get a decent amount of money out of that too. I think it also helps the booking as they don't have to go back to old matches to fill out twelve PPVs.
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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.92
So much for my theory of AJ winning the X title and cashing it in at Destination X.

I will miss the uselessness of the September PPV.

Its interesting how Genesis was picked to be in the big 4. I had expected that Destination X and Hardcore Justice would be more likely to be saved than Genesis.
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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.12
    Originally posted by Dionysus
    So much for my theory of AJ winning the X title and cashing it in at Destination X.

    I will miss the uselessness of the September PPV.

    Its interesting how Genesis was picked to be in the big 4. I had expected that Destination X and Hardcore Justice would be more likely to be saved than Genesis.
Yeah I figured they'd keep Destination X maybe next year or maybe they'll have it be one of those in demand specials. The September PPVs were always killer as they usually went against the first week of the NFL season and nobody, but nobody bought the September PPV.
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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.12
You know you're haemorrhaging money when you have to cut down to four PPV's a month - I give TNA a year in the dead pool.

And are they really going to put something called *One Night Only* every month? Do they actually think about these things first?
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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.12
I didn't realize that Pauliewtf changed his name to Wannaberockstar. Anyway I don't think having to cut your PpV is ideal, but the TNA will be dead in a year stuff is beyond silly. As far as the one night only I believe the have to fulfill their obligations to the Cable providers. I would guess they'll go with just four PPVs in 2014.
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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.29
    Originally posted by graves9
    Yeah I figured they'd keep Destination X maybe next year or maybe they'll have it be one of those in demand specials.


I think the latter is the deal; the shows they're taping Saturday are X Division focused with the idea they matches might be good enough to entice people to watch even if the ongoing storylines are otherwise ignored. I think TNA's actually done this in the past and it actually worked for them.


    You know you're haemorrhaging money when you have to cut down to four PPV's a month - I give TNA a year in the dead pool.


You misunderstand - these PPVs were already doing so badly, they were losing money running them. They're clearly hoping less PPVs cause more people to check out the ones they still run. Even if those don't go up, they're saving money by running them this way. The problem isn't the lack of money to put on the PPVs, it's the lack of interest to get anyone to buy them.



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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.18
Just from a storyline point of view, I'd have kept Destination X, so that "Option 3" would go on every year. That's a shame.



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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.80
Dixie's saying that they're having 7 smaller PPVs based on themes. Sort of an 'In Your House' type deal I suppose.

I wonder how much they'll actually save going from 12 PPVs to 4 major ones and 7 lesser ones. I know they lose money like crazy under the current system. Does a change like this really save them anything? Or is it simply help them not burn through storylines as quickly since the smaller PPVs appear to be gimmick ones?
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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.29
It's not cutting the number that's saving them money. They save money by going from live to taped. It's a lot cheaper to give the PPV company a tape of the event than to broadcast it live the night of the show.



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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.80
Oh ok, I missed the part where the PPVs outside of the big 4 were going to be taped.

Like others said, anything that cuts back their losses can only be looked at as a good thing. Whether they'll admit it or not, operating as deep in the red as they do has to affect every aspect of the company negatively, including creative.

I'm glad that they decided to take the shot to their ego and cut back on live PPVs to try to right the ship.
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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.77
I think it's a tad odd that they're pre-taping May's PPV (for example) this Saturday. Did they learn nothing from the WCW MGM studios tapings? People will know the results months in advance and totally forget about it before then.



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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.12
    Originally posted by Mike Zeidler
    I think it's a tad odd that they're pre-taping May's PPV (for example) this Saturday. Did they learn nothing from the WCW MGM studios tapings? People will know the results months in advance and totally forget about it before then.
I don't think they care. They are hoping word gets out about how good the matches are and hope people purchase it. The on demand shows have no real affect on story-lines or on who has the titles like the MGM tapings had in the early 90's. Now those were so damn dumb.
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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.90
I was disappointed when I heard that TNA was going from 12 PPVs to 10 a months ago and I'm glad to see they've come to their senses and drawn down to four. The concept ppvs sounds interesting I wonder if they'll stick with it beyond 2013? I wish TNA would have like four ppvs and like 4-6 clash of the champions type shows on spike, but I guess spike won't go for it.
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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.77
Having thought some more, I think it would be neat if they treated the taped PPVs as "non-continuity" niche events (which they seem to be doing) have they noted a price difference for the taped events?

Also, having just read the article, these are going to be on Friday nights? Now I can watch a PPV live again!



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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.63
The non live Pay per views will cost fifteen bucks according to PWInsider. I think this is a smart move on TNAs part and I was surprised to have agreed with Wade Keller take http://pwtorch.com/artman2/publish/kellerstake/article_67788.shtml over Dave Meltzer's less than nuanced take.

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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.85
They should be at 4 PPV's per year. 12 is stupid. Nothing gets resolved, and from a writing/storytelling standpoint you only build to the next PPV. I know that the WWE has 12 (13 some years?) but that doesn't make it right. The stories were much better, more involved, and more organic when there were fewer PPV's. I don't think TNA should do the taped PPV's, even if they're only 15 dollars. Do what Brian said and have some big weekends on Spike to showcase whatever it is you want to put on the PPV. I have always thought that more isn't better when it comes to things like this. WWE should have 5 PPV's per year: Mania, Rumble, SummerSlam, Elimination Chamber, and TLC. Sorry for all of you Survivor Series and/or Hell in a Cell fans, but everything else is a waste of time, money, and writing ability. TNA should adopt the idea that less is more, and that less means that they're a bigger deal when they happen. It's not rocket science; sure WWE has more money, but TNA should utilize their talent better and tell better stories. That's how they make their mark, that's how they get their brand known, and that's how they "win" whatever it is they're fighting for. Unfortunately, they have the wrong people at the helm to do those things.
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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.13
    Originally posted by Stefonics
    WWE should have 5 PPV's per year: Mania, Rumble, SummerSlam, Elimination Chamber, and TLC.


You're dropping HitC (smart) and keeping TLC. Really.

Mania, Rumble, SurSer, EC, and bring back King of the Ring. And tie some of them together as such:

EC is your post-Mania PPV.
KotR after that, do the whole tourney on PPV. (Quarters, Semis, Finals) The winner is king and Main Events SurSer for the world title of their choice.
SurSer starts the Road to Mania and is all elimination tags (aside from 2-3 title matches), the survivors meet in a battle royal at the end of the show, the winner of that is #30 in the Rumble.
Rumble and Mania as per usual.

Save the Cell and TLC matches for big feud-enders/co-mains at any of the shows. (except EC, cause I don't think they could put both cages above the ring.)



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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.85
Point very well taken. I meant Money In The Bank. My mistake. But I like your idea more.
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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.13
    Originally posted by Stefonics
    Point very well taken. I meant Money In The Bank. My mistake. But I like your idea more.


I wouldn't have any problem with a) putting the MITB match back on WM, b) making it a TV special, like SNME, or c) ditching the entire concept.



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