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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.62
(I didn't see a thread icon so I used the TNA one - feel free to correct!)

Not a bad show, though the bottom half was MUCH better then the top half. I didn't see the pre show on Facebook but it pretty much went as expected.

Mexican America def. Ink Inc.

X-Division Championship:
Austin Aries def. Brian Kendrick. This was a really good, solid opener. I haven't much cared for Aries but I was impressed by what the two did here.

RVD def. Lynn.
Don't think anyone expected the opposite but it was a fun little brawl - I never watched or cared for ECW too much but the crowd seemed to be very much into the nostalgia kick. Nothing offensive here.

Crimson def. Samoa Joe and Matt Morgan
Good match but was far too short and it ended kind of anti-climatically. Samoa Joe was awesome during the match and lost again (surprise). It wasn't bad, per say, but it was a bit of a let down from the previous two.

Mr. Anderson def. Bully Ray
For all that I've been critical of Mr. Anderson, these two put on a solid brawl with only a couple of miscues. It kept the crowd happy, though, so I guess there was nothing wrong with that. Anderson was uncharacteristically quiet tonight - and that was a good thing. Tone down the promos and he's watchable.

Knockouts Championship
Velvet Sky def. Madison Rayne, Winter, and Mickie James.
Karen Jarrett made herself the referee for this one but didn't really do all that much. In the end, Winter did the Muta Mist thing but missed and hit Mickie, Tara came down and Velvet won. To be honest I wasn't paying much attention to this one but it wasn't a train wreck, so there's that. Good for Velvet for winning too - at least it's something different.

Everything up to this point was pretty good - the quality of the show from this point pretty much takes a nose dive.

AJ Styles def. Christopher Daniels.
I've definitely seen better from the two - this was very slow paced, due to the way the I Quit matches work with having to hold the microphone in their face. I wished they could have just had a match, honestly. Daniels tries to kill Styles with a wrench (must have played the old WCW Wrestling game for NES) and a screwdriver (he actually got on the microphone and threatened to murder styles. Yes.). Match ends anti-climatically when AJ Styles picks up the screwdriver to use on Daniels, who then basically forfeits, gives up, and runs away. Yeah.

Post match, Daniels attacks Styles on the entrance ramp.

Jeff Jarrett calls out Hardy. They fight. Blah, blah, blah. Highlight of the segment? D'lo Brown getting a chant over the two people actually involved. Also, the multi person sign that said "Hardy Gets Us High" was pretty good, too.

Sting def. Hogan
Lots of Dixie Carter shots. Oh, before this, Eric Bischoff had the SHOCKING REVEAL~! that Jackson James was his son. Tenay was shocked. Hogan calls out Ric Flair before the match. Lots of back and forth. Hogan bumps (!!). Sting makes him tap out in a kind-of-sort-of Scorpion Death Lock, which makes Jackson James reluctantly call for the bell.

Afterward, Immortal comes out and beat Sting for about 7 minutes. Bischoff hits his son with a chair. Then Hogan suddenly turns face and helps Sting, who was just beaten by about 6 people, clear the ring. Yes, the guy who insulted the fans last Thursday turned face and it became all about Hogan. This went on for about 30-35 minutes, making it about 10:35 before the Angle vs. Roode match actually went on. It was a train wreck but, for some reason, people still cheered Hogan...

TNA World Championship
Kurt Angle def. Bobby Roode.
A good match that was limited by time - lots of near falls for Roode but Angle came out victorious even though Roode was under the ropes - after all of that, they have Roode lose. Awesome. No follow up, no nothing. End of show.

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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.06
So, instead of doing the logical thing and letting Bobby win, we get a Hogan lovefest that will lead to Kurt vs. Hogan. I have no idea what the upside of any of this is. This company is officially screwed. Philly fans, I expected better of you.



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Yeah, this was a "That's So TNA!" show amped up to eleven. A great first half, solid wrestling almost across the board, and the usual mystifyingly terrible booking.

That said, there's no way in Hell Hogan is getting in the ring with Angle any time soon. This is just the usual cut-the-balls-off-the-challenger booking that will probably be followed by Roode winning the belt in six months when it means ten times less than it would've done last night. I'd say Angle/Hardy is probably the direction they'll head in longterm. Which is just hilarious on so many levels.

(cut to Dixie)
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I believe that Hardy is featured on the Turning Point poster and it was implied by Tenay that the winner of the Joe/Morgan/Crimson match would get a title shot (but, then again, when does TNA ever remember anything they say).

Even if Roode does get a rematch, the air has been taken out of the sails a little bit with the loss after that heavy build up.

Also, I didn't see it last night but I went back and read and there's the possibility that Angle was hurt after the match, though I didn't see it so I don't know how accurate that is. Even then, that doesn't explain why they had Roode lose.

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Since I have today off from work I watched this. Well, I didn't pay full attention as it was painfully boring and oh so bush league. That was their biggest event of the year? Jesus wept.

Horrible booking, terrible acting, Daniels saying that he was actually going to literally murder Styles and a ring so small, I could probably land a Van Terminator. What a waste of time. I've learnt my lesson. I feel bad for anyone who actually found that event enjoyable.




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Happy for Velvet. I hope her first run as Knockouts Champion is even half of what Kelly Kelly got as Divas Champion.

On the other hand, I find Karen Jarrett to be a blight on my television screen.



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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.73
Pretty good PPV marred by a terrible booking decision in the Main Event. Roode not going over Angle is comparable to Luger not going over Flair back in 1988. TNA did the same thing to the Pope by building him up big time a year and a half ago and pulling the rug out from under him too.



I'd bet that Hogan and Russo teamed up to convince Dixie not to have Roode go over. Russo loves the swerve and Hogan is not a Roode fan obviously.Dixie also goes bonkers when the ratings go down, so I'd bet Hogan convinced here it was Roode's fault and he can't draw brother!



Styles Vs Daniels was very disapointing as the dopey stips really killed the match. The feud will continue. The problem is an I quit match is a feud ender. I hope they get a chance next PPV to have their match.



Lynn Vs RVD was good but not as good as their match was at Destination X. I also wish that match was a straight wrestling match as you had two 40+ year olds putting their bodies on the line in scary looking spots. I suspect Lynn is done in TNA and that's disapointing as he's still got it and can add to the X division imo.



Hogan Vs Sting wasn't nearly as bad as I thought it would be. It helped that it went under ten minutes and that that pulled out every trick in the book. I thought it would replace HHH-Steiner and Hart-McMahon as the worst match of the last ten years but it didn't. The post match stuff went on forever and having two guys in their 50's beat down Immortal kills them. Hulkamania being back in 2011 is sad and it's sadder still that Hulkamania returning is why Dixie re-signed Hogan.



Kendrick Vs Aries was the second best match of the night behind Angle Vs Roode. The crowd went bonkers for Aries while crapping all over Kendrick and his terrible gimmick. It was good to see and very surprising to see Aries go over clean as a whistle. The Knockouts title match was a train wreck. Hopefully Gail Kim will be back soon. I love Velvet but she can't wrestle worth a damn.



Bully Ray vs Anderson was a good brawl and Ray cut a great promo before the match to get the fans to boo him. I really do think the wrong guy went over in that one.



Roode Vs Angle was really, really good and if it got ten more minutes it would have been a great match and likely surpassed Styles-Bully Ray as TNA's match of the year. I know it was a screwy finish, but Roode comes out looking bad after all that build up and losing to a guy that the announcers acknowledged was pretty banged up.If Roode wins the title at the next PPV it won't mean nearly what it would have meant last night.



All in all, this was a good PPV that leaves a bad taste due to the Main Event. New Head of creative same stupid decisions.

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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.73
And unsurprisingly Hogan was behind Roode not winning the title http://www.pwinsider.com/ViewArticle.php?id=62572



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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.72
First TNA show of any kind I've watched in over a year. I kept a running commentary on my Facebook, but I'll share some of what I remember here.

- Austin Aries is sharp, and a nice throwback to WCW's Cruiserweight glory days; reminds me of Psychosis actually. Spanky is blah. Match was excellent, best of the night by far, had it clocked in at ***3/4.

- RVD vs. Jerry Lynn was garbage. They did it a lot better 14 years ago, this was just a slow motion replay of years gone by. **

- I missed half of the three way match, but Joe was absolutely buried here from the bit I saw. Crimson looks like TNA Original MALICE~!

- Bubba Ray Dudley vs. Mr. Kennedy was just that; two midcarders I have no interest in watching. Never a fan of either one, they did nothing to win me over tonight. *1/2

- Skipped the women's match to make tea.

- AJ Styles vs. Chris Daniels was just a match. I mean, fundamentally okay, but "I Quit" matches generally suck. The legend was made on the back of Tully/Magnum and Flair/Funk - but most of the time all you get is a lot of awkward over-exaggerated grunting. I did get a laugh when Chris Daniels threatened to kill AJ Styles and couldn't so much as draw a Rent-A-Cop to the ring to stop him. ***, they've done way better.

- Hogan vs. Sting was a DUD in ring, but gets ***** for the post-match entertainment. I know the story makes no sense what-so-ever, but the fans were drunk on Hulkamania, as he suddenly morphs out of being the Grandfather Orange Walrus into the Grandfather Orange Walrus Without A Shirt. Fascinating to watch Hogan do it again, he's damn near 60 years old, beyond overexposed, can barely move in the ring - but still can milk a crowd for everything it's got given the right situation.

On top of that, putting him second to last completely chopped the balls off of ...

- Angle vs. Bobby Roode. The crowd was dead, couldn't have given a crap about these guys after Hogan's show. They then proceed to botch the push of the year by having Angle cheat to beat Roode, and completely take the wind out of his sails. Bizarre decision to have Roode go to the Crippler Crossface about 2034823049 times, but then, I've never thought much of Bobby Roode as a worker OR entertainer, so it's probably best they didn't ask him to try and incorporate anything else.

Also, Kurt Angle looks like a thumb.



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I like the guy, and thought his push over the last few weeks was fun, but I don’t think Roode is truly ready to be the guy yet either. Hogan was wrong to say it when he did, but he is right. I still think of Roode as a tag team guy. Hell, he still uses the Beer Money music. I compare it to if 10 years ago when Edge won King of the Ring, he was immediately granted a shot at the World Title and we should consider him the man to carry the company.

In hindsight, Hogan/Sting SHOULD have gone on last.





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No-one's ready to be "the guy". In the situation TNA is in, you take a punt and start booking the man like he's a champion and he might just stick and work out. And if not you've lost nothing, because Bobby Roode as world champion isn't going to sink the company. They're in a no-lose place when it comes to creating new stars - if they weren't serious about Roode, if they didn't think he had it, they shouldn't have spent six weeks building him up and putting him in the main event of their biggest show of the year.
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I am so sick of hearing about this theme music argument. They could give him music after he won thats not impossible. Roode was ready when he feuded with Booker years ago. They are banking their future on the walking PR disaster in Hogan and two guys who routinely have run-ins with the law. This is not how you run a business let alone one that has a spotlight like TMZ on it at times.



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Unfathomable that they didn't put Roode over. WTF are they thinking???



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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.41
    Originally posted by Parts Unknown
    Unfathomable that they didn't put Roode over. WTF are they thinking???

No kidding. Why would they do months and months of buildup through an overblown tournament, build the guy up over the last month on TV, and job him to a guy on one leg? That's how you turn a guy into a loser. I don't get it.

Hogan and Sting succeeded in the sense that it wasn't as terrible as everyone thought it would be. And really, if Hogan really is riding off into the sunset (for reals, this time), then this is the best way for him to go out.




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    Originally posted by It's False
      Originally posted by Parts Unknown
      Unfathomable that they didn't put Roode over. WTF are they thinking???

    No kidding. Why would they do months and months of buildup through an overblown tournament, build the guy up over the last month on TV, and job him to a guy on one leg? That's how you turn a guy into a loser. I don't get it.


But Roode was never the focus of the BfG Series until the end. I like him, but agree that Storm is more ready to be the guy than Roode. And yes, I know they have the same music, but his character seems much more polished than Roode at this point. Hell, I would love tom see them fight for the belt, but alas...




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Putting the belt on Roode would have been the smart thing if they were really serious about taking the company in a new direction, but they're not so why put the belt on him if they are just going to bungle the title reign.

This company is what it is at this point, a nice place for has beens and castoffs to gain a nice check and if you want to keep drawing that check and stay at the top then you can't let guys like Joe, Pope, Roode or Storm get too big.

Bully Ray has been a bright spot on the show lately ... Buh Buh Ray fucking Dudley. Good, great but he's done nothing but feud with other guys who are in the same spot as he is, people hanging on to the last upper mid card spot with nice pay that they will ever get.

I'm glad these guys found a nice scam and hope they use the money wisely, but don't ever expect anyone to rise up out of this no matter how much the company looks to be getting behind them.

As for the Bobby Roodes, save your money and don't get hurt.

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    Originally posted by graves9
    Roode not going over Angle is comparable to Luger not going over Flair back in 1988. TNA did the same thing to the Pope by building him up big time a year and a half ago and pulling the rug out from under him too.


Speaking of Pope, I was surprised that we didn't get a match between him and Devon.

Angle winning made me happy. I always enjoy him with the world title. (Presumably, James Storm is quite happy with the result as well.)

Getting the Jackson James reveal was a nice touch. Hopefully we get to see Morgan react to that, what with James "accidentally" costing him the title last November.

Sting wins and redeems Hollywood Hogan's soul. NWO closure at last.
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This was the first TNA PPV I've ever watched except for the penny PPV in 2003. I wanted to see the Sting/Hogan match out of perverse curiosity and Roode/Angle out of genuine interest. I was in the same room as a screen it was on for the last hour of the show so it sounds like I missed the best stuff. The part I saw was total amateur hour. I tuned in to see Christopher Daniels embarrassing himself overacting and literally threatening to murder AJ Styles with a screwdriver when they could've been having a cool normal match.

Dixie Carter is awful but it's funny to see her get conned in public and be oblivious.

Then Hogan vs. Sting which was in slow motion but actually fine considering what they were working with. Hogan took three flat back bumps and the loosest scorpion deathlock to ever be deathlocked. But the match was not a disasterpiece which is both a disappointment to me and a testament to them.

The post-match was poorly laid out but Hogan got a great reaction for turning babyface. Getting a pop from a half-filled mostly-papered building isn't indicative of a whole lot though. Which is why that's definitely the guy you want to listen to when it comes to the finish of ...

Angle/Roode. Typical good Angle match reversing and kicking out of signature spots, but little heat, too short, awful finish. Kurt was apparently hurt pretty bad going into the match and then made worse during (Ref X), so I can't resent them for not having the classic match I was expecting. But if you can't get this one right you're beyond help, ever.

    Originally posted by Amos Cochran
    No-one's ready to be "the guy". In the situation TNA is in, you take a punt and start booking the man like he's a champion and he might just stick and work out. And if not you've lost nothing, because Bobby Roode as world champion isn't going to sink the company. They're in a no-lose place when it comes to creating new stars - if they weren't serious about Roode, if they didn't think he had it, they shouldn't have spent six weeks building him up and putting him in the main event of their biggest show of the year.


Chris Jericho, Chris Benoit, Eddie Guerrero, Rey Mysterio, Booker T were never ready either. Until when all went to WWF and made up the heart of their upper card for most of the next decade.
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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.00
Roode's push was the first thing to get me interested in TNA in a long time. I was actually really gutted when I heard the poor guy didn't get the title here. This SHOULD have been his moment. Shame on you, TNA!



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