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Kane vs. Edge vs. Alberto Del Rio vs. Rey Mysterio, World Heavyweight Championship, Tables, Ladders, Chairs Match: Don't know why Mysterio and Del Rio were added, unless creative was really unhappy with the Edge/Kane feud, or decided at the last second that they didn't want either to hold the title for a period of time. I'll stick with Kane retaining, though a change to Rey or even Del Rio wouldn't surprise me.

The Miz vs. Randy Orton, WWE Championship, Tables Match: Miz retains by nefarious means, to continue his low-credibility reign.

John Cena vs. Wade Barrett, Chairs Match: Cena wins and gets his revenge. Perhaps Nexus teases more dissension.

John Morrison vs. Sheamus, #1 Contender Ladder Match: Sheamus wins. I don't see Morrison becoming #1 Contender, though a feud with Miz would be interesting, what with their history.

LayCool vs. Natalya & Beth Phoenix, Tables Match: I keep expecting Beth to turn on Natalya. Will it happen here? Nah. Faces win.

Dolph Ziggler vs. Kofi Kingston vs. Jack Swagger, Intercontinental Championship, Triple-Threat Ladder Match: Swagger wins the belt here.

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Kane vs. Edge vs. Alberto Del Rio vs. Rey Mysterio, World Heavyweight Championship, Tables, Ladders, Chairs Match: Turning this into a Fatal Four-way means they're ready to mercifully pull the plug on the Kane title reign. If they were going to put the title on Edge, they would have kept this one-on-one and ADR's still too new to hold the title, meaning it must be time for another token Rey Mysterio title run. Rey wins and holds the title until February.

The Miz vs. Randy Orton, WWE Championship, Tables Match: Miz wins via shenanigans.

John Cena vs. Wade Barrett, Chairs Match: Barrett wins to give Nexus one last burst of momentum heading into the Rumble next month.

John Morrison vs. Sheamus, #1 Contender Ladder Match: The Rumble has traditionally had some throwaway world title matches (Lesnar/Holly, Angle/Henry, HHH/Steiner), since people buy the PPV for the Rumble match anyway. Morrison wins to get his one (and possibly only) one-on-one world title match at the Rumble.

LayCool vs. Natalya & Beth Phoenix, Tables Match: Faces win in a quick squash.

Dolph Ziggler vs. Kofi Kingston vs. Jack Swagger, Intercontinental Championship, Triple-Threat Ladder Match: Dolph retains, but ye gods, who challenges him now?

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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.81
I don't think Kane should hold the belt for another day. Edge can work with anybody. Kane can work with nobody. The only reason to leave it on Kane is if you're committed the horrible idea of him having awful matches until Undertaker comes back and they can have another awful match for the title.

Die Kane.

I think this could be an above average show thanks to all the ladder matches though. Morrison/Miz as the "don't need one" Rumble title match would be great.
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Kane vs. Edge, World Heavyweight Championship, Tables, Ladders, Chairs Match: Got to be Kane. It makes no sense to move it to Edge now.

The Miz vs. Randy Orton, WWE Championship, Tables Match: Miz clean. God I hope it is clean. if not, Miz wil lbe the new Jericho.

John Cena vs. Wade Barrett, Chairs Match: Cena wins, Barrett gets destroyed by the rest of Nexus.

Rey Mysterio vs. Alberto Del Rio, Chairs Match: Mysterio just to make the crowd happy.

John Morrison vs. Sheamus, #1 Contender Ladder Match: Morrison. Again a crowd pleasing decision and a good couple of weeks of banter and matches between Miz and Morrison.

LayCool vs. Natalya & Beth Phoenix, Tables Match: Faces win.

Dolph Ziggler vs. Kofi Kingston vs. Jack Swagger, Intercontinental Championship, Triple-Threat Ladder Match: Swagger wins the belt here. Could be the match of the night.



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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.13
PLEASE take the strap off of Kane. PLEEEEEEASE. Fuck, put it on Drew McIntyre, I don't care.

Miz beats Orton
Cena beats Barrett
Mysterio beats Del Rio
Morrison beats Sheamus
Laycool somehow beat Natalya/Beth
Swagger takes the IC belt

This looks like a shockingly good card.
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#6 Posted on
This looks like it's following in lockstep with the Survivor Series formula: a possibly strong undercard that can't salvage probably terrible main events.

Edge. Kane. Edge. Kane. I don't care. I so don't care. Edge.

Miz.

Cena.

Morrison.

Bethtalya.

Del Rio.

Kofi.



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Kane vs. Edge, World Heavyweight Championship, Tables, Ladders, Chairs Match: Kane in what I hope will be a great match to a rather shitty feud.

The Miz vs. Randy Orton, WWE Championship, Tables Match: Miz will win in a fluke way like Sheamus at RR.

John Cena vs. Wade Barrett, Chairs Match: Wade wins via Nexus destroying John who will miraculously return at the Rumble.

Rey Mysterio vs. Alberto Del Rio, Chairs Match: Rey since Del Rio's value seems to sinking.

John Morrison vs. Sheamus, #1 Contender Ladder Match: Morrison wins, because the Rumble sells the PPV not the title matches. They also need build more faces then heels at this point.

LayCool vs. Natalya & Beth Phoenix, Tables Match: LayCool after a botch by Natalya on Beth leading to a match at RR or Mania.

Dolph Ziggler vs. Kofi Kingston vs. Jack Swagger, Intercontinental Championship, Triple-Threat Ladder Match: Kofi, again they need to build more faces then heels.
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Cena beats Barrett to officially blow off their feud, though Cena will continue to skirmish with Nexus for the next month to build up the Royal Rumble.

Del Rio over Rey, just cuz. Aside from their initial match, does Del Rio actually have another win over Rey one-on-one?

Kane over Edge. I still see Edge taking the title at some point between now the WM, if only since I'd like to see Wade win the Rumble and them move to Smackdown to give that show a shot in the arm.

Morrison over Sheamus, sets up a nice Morrison/Miz match at the Rumble.

Beth and Natalya over Laycool

Miz over Orton

Ziggler over Kofi and Swagger. Dolph's reign is getting kind of substantial length-wise, I'd like to see him hold the strap through WM.

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World Heavyweight Title (TLC Match); Kane (c) v. Edge- It is hard to believe that Edge has been back for nearly a year and without any of the world titles (no complaints). Will he win it here? I will go with Kane retaining here and hopefully putting an end to this feud (I won't be surprised though if Edge wins).

WWE Championship (Tables Match); The Miz (c) v. Randy Orton- Miz wins here but not in the way to make him look like a legitimate champion.

John Cena v. Wade Barrett (Chairs Match)- Cena gets the W in this match and more and Nexus helps Cena get the win (my partial crazy prediciton on that part).

Rey Mysterio v. ADR (Chairs Match)- This may be the toughest match to predict but I will go with Rey Mysterio based on that ADR put Rey Mysterio on the sidelines with a chair previously and Rey gets the win in a reversal of fortunes type deal.

LayCool vs. Natalya and Beth Phoenix (Tables Match)- Not much to say here; faces win this one.

Intercontinental Championship (Triple Threat Ladder Match); Dolph Ziggler (c) v. Kofi Kingston v. Jack Swagger- former World Heavyweight champion Jack Swagger is now your new IC champion.

#1 Contender Match (Ladder Match); John Morrison v. Sheamus- this is also a tough one to call cuz there are different angles to go about whoever wins. I will say John Morrison wins setting up an anticipated WWE Championship match between The Miz and Morrison.
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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.36
I'm surprised that we might have a WWE PPV in which it's impossible for a single match to end in DQ or count out. (Unless Vince Russo secretly jumped ship, of course.)

Kane vs. Edge, World Heavyweight Championship, Tables, Ladders, Chairs Match

In a rare occurrence in the WWE, Edge has actually has a winning record in his "speciality match", having won 5 of the 9 TLC matches to date, while losing 2. On the other hand, Kane single-handedly won a tag team TLC match while his partner (Hurricane) was unconscious in the back.

Based on how the storyline has gone, I really can't see Edge winning it. I think he'll lose after a massive bump, leaving Kane strong for when The Undertaker returns, either immediately following the match or else at the Rumble.


The Miz vs. Randy Orton, WWE Championship, Tables Match

I don't think there's any way the WWE will give up the mainstream media attention they're getting because of The Miz. He puts Orton through a table with assistance from Alex Riley. (Michael Cole tries to get involved as well but is cut off by Kaylee.)

John Cena vs. Wade Barrett, Chairs Match

John Cena hasn't won a singles match at a PPV since the I Quit match against Batista in May. In fact, Cena is 6 - 6 in PPV matches this year, so this match will determine if he has a winning or losing year. (Also, the only non-gimmick PPV matches Cena has had all year were the tag title victory with Otunga and the squash against Batista immediately following the Elimination Chamber.)

Cena is due a victory and and revenge, plus I see more storyline potential in Barret losing.


Rey Mysterio vs. Alberto Del Rio, Chairs Match

I predict that this will be the most athletic chairs match in the history of the WWE. (For those that don't remember, the only other chairs match ever held prior to this event was Undertaker vs Batista.)

I could see it going either way but I'll go with Rey for the semi-irony of him winning a match that has only been won previously by The Undertaker, who's currently kayfabe gone due to a storyline that was likely put into place due to Mysterio legitimately putting out The Undertaker. Plus it will set up for Mysterio vs Kane at the Rumble.


John Morrison vs. Sheamus, #1 Contender Ladder Match

Between this and the WWE title match, we have four potential matchups heading into the Rumble. Of those, Orton vs Sheamus was just at last year's Rumble (albeit with the roles reversed) and I can't imagine they'd possibly even consider The Miz vs Sheamus (although I'd love to see the promos that lead up to the match, even though I'd skip the match itself.)

That leaves us with Miz vs Morrison (the obvious matchup with strong potential) or Orton vs Morrison (which gives the WWE an opportunity to shit on Morrison once and for all.) Either way, Morrison is taking this. Sheamus has the king shtick that he can play up against any face on the roster until HHH shows up.

LayCool vs. Natalya & Beth Phoenix, Tables Match

LayCool might be able to get Nattie through a table legitimately but I can't see them putting Beth through a table unless they go the "Cena fell off the ropes and went through the table" route. I think the faces win this and then Beth Phoenix respectfully challenges Natalya to a title match.

Dolph Ziggler vs. Kofi Kingston vs. Jack Swagger, Intercontinental Championship, Triple-Threat Ladder Match

I definitely don't see Swagger winning this. It would make the most sense for Kofi to win it, since they're short on faces on Smackdown right now. But I don't think they're done with Ziggler yet, so I'm predicting him to win. I have no idea who he'll match up against next. Surely not Big Show or Rey Mysterio. JTG did predict that he'd win the Intercontinental Champion by the end of the year (or was it by Wrestlemania?) so why not give him a run at the title? He's no more of a joke than Ziggler was not too long ago.
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Kane vs. Edge - TLC for the World Heavyweight Championship

Kane has to win here, right? I somehow doubt they put him over the Undertaker throughout the entire fall for him to just drop the title to Edge a few months later. Hopefully this will end their feud once and for all.

Miz vs. Orton - Tables match - WWE Championship

Miz retains via heelish chicanery. Plus, the stip lets Orton job without looking bad (see: Sheamus vs. Cena last year). I have no idea where they go with Orton from here. Feud with Nexus?

Sheamus vs. John Morrison - Ladder Match - #1 Contendership

John Morrison gets a tryout at the main event level at the Rumble, where the undercard is overshadowed by the Rumble itself. I really like Morrison, so I hope he finds a way to thrive in the spotlight, but I remain worried about his lack of mic skills.

Wade Barrett vs. John Cena - Chairs Match

I've lost a LOT if interest in this feud. Hopefully Cena wins just to put an end to the whole mess and let everyone move on. No Otunga turn, please. Move him out of Nexus and onto Smackdown if you must, but his charisma is all heel.

Rey Mysterio vs. Alberto Del Rio - Chairs Match

Del Rio wins, announcer, but ends up eating his ring announcer, but ends up eating a chair-assisted 619 post-match so that Rey can save face and still end the angle.

Dolph Ziggler vs. Kofi Kingston vs. Jack Swagger - Ladder match - Intercontinental Championship

I think Dolph's time is done. I suspect they move it to Kofi, so that he can drop the title to either Dashing Cody Rhodes or Alberto Del Rio in relatively short order.

Beth Phoenix & Natalya vs. Laycool - Diva's Table Match

Beth and Natalya win, but I agree that it could lead to them facing each other down the line, maybe at Wrestlemania. Perhaps Nattie accidentally puts Beth through a table and pisses the Glamazon off?

I wouldn't be surprised by an extra match or two of time-killer (maybe Masters vs. Rhodes or a throwaway Tag Title defense).



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I don't think it's a Smackdown spoiler to say Rey Mysterio is doing media promoting a new Smackdown title match, a fourway TLC between himself, Kane, Edge, and Del Rio. Everyone start over.
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    Originally posted by JustinShapiro
    I don't think it's a Smackdown spoiler to say Rey Mysterio is doing media promoting a new Smackdown title match, a fourway TLC between himself, Kane, Edge, and Del Rio. Everyone start over.

If that's true, I really wish they'd stop changing the card last second, because I'd like to be able to do one pre-PPV SD recap without having to add the "Adjust your PPV predictions accordingly" link.

Having said that, if it IS true, that has to mean they're ready to hit the abort button on the Kane title reign, right?




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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.88
Del Rio wins the new TLC match to win the title

Miz d. Orton to retain

Cena d. Barrett via Nexus in-fighting

Morrison d. Sheamus via HHH interference

Heels win the divas' match since the faces are less likely to break themselves in two going through a table

Dolph retains IC title because really who cares
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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.93
    Originally posted by GodEatGod
    Rey Mysterio vs. Alberto Del Rio - Chairs Match

    Del Rio wins, announcer, but ends up eating his ring announcer,

    Originally posted by JustinShapiro
    Rey Mysterio is doing media promoting a new Smackdown title match, a fourway TLC between himself, Kane, Edge, and Del Rio.
For now, we can only assume that pressure from Mattel forced them to combine both matches and scrap the Alberto Del Rio cannibalism angle. I'm disappointed.
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Del Rio - to continue the string of forgettable title changes in multi man matches. The Edge/Kane feud has tainted both men (familiar ground for Kane) and ADR has all the tools.

Miz

Cena

Sheamus - Morrison has looked good in this feud, but he won't win it.

Beth & Natalya

Swagger- if they don't start using this guy better it's a crime. He COULD be the next Angle. Right now, he's the next Shelton.




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Kane vs. Edge vs. Mysterio vs. Del Rio - Gotta go with Mysterio.

The Miz vs. Randy Orton - Miz wins

John Cena vs. Wade Barrett - Cena

John Morrison vs. Sheamus - Morrison

LayCool vs. Natalya & Beth Phoenix - Laycool, somehow

Dolph Ziggler vs. Kofi Kingston vs. Jack Swagger - Kofi

That's a lot of face wins, but I'll stick with it.
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TLC World Title 4-Way: The ignominious memory of Jack Swagger's run with this belt should stop their hand and prevent them from exercising the temptation to put it on Del Rio early. Rumor has it Rey's injured again (which would explain part of the reason why they took those two out of their own match) and Edge is utterly directionless, which means Kane retains and we keep stalling until UT returns or the E finds another viable face guy to be champ.

(My suggestion: Turn Punk face, have him win the Rumble, and jump to SD to challenge Kane, given that as Punk hinted at the Slammys, Kane wronged Punk in a *big* way earlier this year.)

Table WWE Title: This is pretty much a carbon copy of last year's Cena/Sheamus title table match (with Orton in Cena's role and Miz in Sheamus's role), with the only difference being Miz has the title already. No way Miz loses the belt given the build to his title win and all the pub he's been doing with the belt the past two weeks.

Ladder IC Title Triple Threat: Time for a title change, and this is historically a scenario where we go from one heel champ to another, and Swagger needs an earnest push with some belt after the disastrous World title reign he had earlier this year.

Table Women's Tag: Russo booking would involve Laycool winning the match without doing anything when Beth turns heel on Natalya and puts her through the table herself. I don't think they'll go that route given that it's still early in Natalya's reign AND Beth's comeback, and I'm reasonably sure at least one of Laycool is capable of the table bump, so I'll go that route (Beth puts Michelle through the table and we work our way towards a future Natalya/Beth title match).

Chair Cena/Barrett: Please, for the love of Goddess, put Cena over and END THIS FEUD NOW. You could have gotten another month of mileage out of it if you hadn't aborted the firing angle so goddamn quickly, but if Wade wins we're right back to where we were after Night of Champions (thus putting it into Outsiders/Steiners Dead Angle (TM) territory) and if Cena wins there's nowhere else to take things, since Cena's already made the rest of Nexus his bitch.

Ladder WWE Title #1 Contender: As much as conventional WWE think would have me pick Sheamus, I have to go with Morrison because it's just so gosh darn logical to put Morrison and Miz into a singles match with each other. No one knows the other better from a workrate standpoint, and it would be much better for Miz for him to get a clean win over Morrison then to get a tainted win over Sheamus because of the Return of His Holiness Hunter. *rolleyes* I can justify this by saying it's a goddamn ladder match, so it's not like Morrison is actually going to pin the Irish brogue...

So in sum:

Kane
Miz
Swagger
Beth & Natalya
Cena
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TLC Fatal Fourway: Edge.

Table Match for the WWE Title: Miz.

Triple Threat Ladder Match for the IC Title: Swagger.

Women's Table match: Beth/Natalya.

Ladder Match for the #1 Contender: Morrison.

Cena vs Barrett: Barrett.



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SD Title: Kane retains somehow.
RAW Title: Miz Retains. The countdown to Bruno continues.
IC Title: Swagger.
Cena vs. Barrett: Cena to finally begin the ending of this angle, which was so easy to book yet they kept finding ways to screw up.
Women's Match: Natalya/Phoenix.
Sheamus vs. Morrison: Sheamus, as I've heard someplace they have very small plans for Morrison.
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