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Since: 13.3.02
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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.73
Just picked this up yesterday, along with FFT: Advance. I was wondering what the other wiener TH fanatics think of it.

I picked up the PS2 version over the XBOX. The graphics and music selection on X-Box are nicer, but I'm so used to playing this game on a PS controller, that I think my play would drop significantly. The Online features look nice, as does importing a digital picture onto your CAS (Which looks quite simple), but since my PS2 isn't online I wouldn't know.

Story mode is...interesting. You HAVE to use a CAS, though you can load pre-existing models. The only thing that frustrates me is that in every level, after a certain # of goals are completed, you automatically go to the next level. The TH completist in me really wants to stay put until all goals are accomplished.

The create-a-trick mode is AWESOME. Unfortunataly, it only lets you make air tricks (no lip tricks, manuals, or grinds), but being able to put together a move like "The Holy Roller" (A Double layout, Double Christ Air) is quite satisfying.

The new feature of getting off your board is awkward and controls strangely, but it looks like you can set up amazing combos with it. When you leave your board mid-trick a timer appears indicating how much time you have to start a new trick in the combo. This lets you continue a trick run after you've stalled into stationary manual territory. You simply grab your board and take a running leap at a grindable surface.

Anyone else playing? Thoughts? Comments?



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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.20
I'll be picking it up this weekend. Online reviews have been excellent, so I'm really looking forward to it. I sunk WAY too much time in the (vastly underrated) TH4 last year.



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Since: 27.7.03
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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.78
Purple Pixies words of wisdom!
I'm getting to point where I'm thinking of importing it from Australia or something. I've played a bit of it though and I thought that the skating is excellent as always but some of driving bits seem tagged on. The off the board bits are weird at first but I have the feeling that you'll be able to incorparate it into tricks and get massive scores. I think this is a great idea because I rented a copy of TH4 and realised that the series really needed something. It's a shame online or my own face isn't an option (I have a Gamecube) but these seem like a lot of fun, like beating not Tony Hawk but your best mate at horse?

Edit: Preview should come before submit because I am forever getting mixed up!



(edited by Purple Pixie on 30.10.03 2206)

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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.50
I got the Gamecube version. I am thoroughly impressed (and I've only ever played THPS1). The create a skater rocks ass, as I can put the logo of the Westies on my shirt and hat, and run around pushing people over.





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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.34
    Originally posted by astrobstrd
    The only thing that frustrates me is that in every level, after a certain # of goals are completed, you automatically go to the next level. The TH completist in me really wants to stay put until all goals are accomplished.


In the pause menu, you can go to view goals and go back and do the ones you didn't get in previous stages.



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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.41
I've got a question for the other THUGs here... do you always get San Diego as the next stage after the Tampa Pro-Am, or does it depend on which team you choose?

//edit: I think I took Zero because they had the most grinds in the video. Does it make any difference?

Is this like a Harry Potter thing?

(edited by Guru Zim on 3.11.03 1342)


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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.50
    Originally posted by Guru Zim
    I've got a question for the other THUGs here... do you always get San Diego as the next stage after the Tampa Pro-Am, or does it depend on which team you choose?

    //edit: I think I took Zero because they had the most grinds in the video. Does it make any difference?

    Is this like a Harry Potter thing?

    (edited by Guru Zim on 3.11.03 1342)


Nah, you always get San Diego by default. The only thing that changes are the logos all over the place. I picked Flip (it made no sense and I like that kind of thing), my brother took Element (he worships Bam), and the only differences were very minor and purely aesthetic.

Spoilers as to the levels after San Diego hereforth.







Past this.













San Diego
Hawaii
Vancouver
Slam City Jam (NA Skate Championships in an arena in Vancouver, but counts differently)
Moscow
New Jersey (second)

P.S. The final challenge is an absolute bitch.

EDIT: NOTE: I copped out, by the way. I bought the book, so no, I suck, just had an extra 15 bucks handy.

(edited by Lexus on 4.11.03 1604)




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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.41
I beat this on the Normal setting yesterday.

Spoiler Below: Highlight text to read

Ok, so I got Iron Man and Gene Simmons, and the Kiss concert. Is the final extra level worth replaying this on the hard mode? I ask, because I clearly wasn't going to be able to finish some of the last set of goals, and had to cop out and use the fact that you don't have to complete everything.

I mean, 25k using only TH1 rules? And you only get one shot? I'm sorry, I don't have that much time in my day. It's bad enough that you have to finish each task before that once more if you fuck up - and then to get 6 seconds to start a combo with no manuals... that's not cool.




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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.53
Nobody really explains what THUD (the final hidden character) is. Although it's two extra special tricks for your create a skater. Also, if you go back and finish every goal, you unlock the cheat list, where you get perfect balance for grinds and manuals, and (say it with me now) Big Head Mode.

Oh, and have fun searching for the 3 levels from Tony Hawk 2.


Spoiler Below (on where to find the 3 bonus levels): Highlight text to read

They're hidden around the train station in New Jersey (School 2), inside the giant tiki in front of the tiki shop in Hawaii (Venice Beach), and inside a window accross from Lenin's Tomb and the tanks (red building) in Moscow (Hangar)






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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.00
Spoiler Below (on one of the last goals): Highlight text to read
    Originally posted by Guru Zim
    I mean, 25k using only TH1 rules? And you only get one shot? I'm sorry, I don't have that much time in my day. It's bad enough that you have to finish each task before that once more if you fuck up - and then to get 6 seconds to start a combo with no manuals... that's not cool.



There's 4 combos you have to do, and I think the scores are (going from memory here):
1st one - all moves - 30k
2nd one - TH3 rules - 25k
3rd one - TH2 rules - 20k
4th one - TH1 rules - 10k

You only need 10k for the TH1 goal... just hop on that planter that's right in front of you and grind it. It's got rounded ends so you can just keep going around and around. Double-tap the grind/flip/grab buttons to tweak your grab and you'll get up to 10k in about 5 seconds of grinding. Then just jump off and land cleanly to score the points. It's a little bit of a cheat since there was no grind tweaking in TH1, but it works.

If you're good at flatland tricks, those can get you through the first 3 goals relatively safely. I got tired of crashing my landings on the 3rd combo so I did flatland instead and that worked great.


(edited by KoRnhornio on 11.11.03 1123)
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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.41

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See, the problem for me was that I'd be so stressed after flatlanding for 3 30k in a row, that I'd shank the 6 seconds I had to find a grind. That, and I manual automatically now, and it kills the combo since its disabled.




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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.33
A question to those who play it: Part of the fun is playing as the professionals; I'm playing both THPS1 and THPS2 as Elissa Steamer, who I think is amazing in the games. Is she in this version?



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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.52
    Originally posted by SOK
    A question to those who play it: Part of the fun is playing as the professionals; I'm playing both THPS1 and THPS2 as Elissa Steamer, who I think is amazing in the games. Is she in this version?


You can, but not in career (story) mode.





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Reverend J Shaft
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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.27
This is somewhat unrelated, but I have a question regarding the commercials for THUG. Does anyone know what that song is that they play during the commercial for it? It sounds kinda punk and there's someone talking about an Officer Leroy - it makes the whole thing hilarious. Also, does anyone know if that song is in the soundtrack for the game?

I haven't bought Tony Hawk since the first one came out, but I'd buy this one, just for the hilarious clips I've seen on the commercials (strippers, cops, etc.) and the seemingly deep gameplay.
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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.00
    Originally posted by Reverend J Shaft
    This is somewhat unrelated, but I have a question regarding the commercials for THUG. Does anyone know what that song is that they play during the commercial for it? It sounds kinda punk and there's someone talking about an Officer Leroy - it makes the whole thing hilarious. Also, does anyone know if that song is in the soundtrack for the game?


http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/ B000078DPV/qid=1069188209/sr=2-2/ref=sr_2_2/103-5425347-3631036

liam lynch - united states of whatever

the video is pretty funny. the song is really short though, and kind of cheesy once you hear the whole thing. so i'd recommend a download first from your favorite (il)legal source.



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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.41
Just buy it on iTunes. I can't imagine the rest of the album is any good.



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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.63
Just for note, Liam Lynch was one half of the creative force behind Sifl N' Olly.

    Originally posted by Guru Zim
    Just buy it on iTunes. I can't imagine the rest of the album is any good.


I haven't heard it, but seeing as how I wait with baited breath for news of a Sifl N' Olly DVD, I'll take a Liam Lynch album.





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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.76
Ok this is what I got to say about this game. WTF!! I mean I like Tony Hawk games, but Inever understand why there these big hard spots.

Ok here where I am at. I had to jump a brigde, then grind around this thing to make a gaurd dizzy and now I got a guy saying beat my score , but don't touch the ground. It seem like it went from easy to hella hard in one stage and the brigde thing took me 60 tries to do. I like these games because I can't skate and through them I can and have fun, but there always seem to be these big hard spots in them that drives me nuts. Thank god I rented it first.

Everything else is cool like the controls, the graphic and sound, but it's that one thing so I don't know.



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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.41
You may want to start over on an easier difficulty level. I played it through on the second to hardest level the first time and it was pretty fun - challenging at times but mostly easy.

On the hardest level, it's out of control. To get the stat power-ups you have to hit some insane combos (well, insane for me. I've never landed a million point combo, but it looks like I'm going to have to at some point to get the speed powerups).

Just remember, skitching is your friend if you have to hit massive spin tricks before you get the speed and air powerups. Just skitch a car and then release into a half-pipe and hit your basic 1080 spin trick :)



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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.73
Some million point combo advice:

Start in a halfpipe (near a nice place to grind). Get Special. Hit a spinning aerial version of whatever your best air trick is, try to add an extra grab if you can, the multiplier is worth more than the points it is worth, but grabs are worth more points and are harder to work in than flip tricks. Revert. Manual up the other side of the half-pipe. Go into a lip stall, preferably one that rests on the board rather than the hands (i.e. nosepick rather than eggplant), cycle through all the different stalls, let go while your balance is still ok, before hitting the ramp, inupt the command for a handplant type stall, cycle through these. Revert. Manual to the grinding surface. Alternate between special grinds and double tap grinds (i.e. tailslides) using jumps with DOUBLE flip tricks (double flipkick, 540 shove-it). Try to continue the grind, manualling as little as possible, caveman instead if you have to. As soon as you feel that your grind is out of control, switch to special manuals, more flip tricks (doubles aren't as important here), and your money -maker, flatland tricks. Caveman to end the run.

Aim for a x50 multiplier (not too hard with all the flip tricks and shifting lip tricks) and a base of slightly under 25,000.

If the 'don't touch the ground' challenge is giving you problems, do the Ollie the Magic Bum quest found on the subway platform instead.



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